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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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Hey new player here and looking into ele and necro Mainly ranked pvp /raiding and some wvw wonder how necro is in those areas and how strong it is compared ele i allso asked how ele is doing in ele forums as i am reading that in pvp ele damage is wery bad hope u can advice nob litle here

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

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I think overall ele is a bit stronger.
Necro has selfish builds that do decent damage.
Ele is much more support oriented in pvp and can be in wvw as well. But you can also spec into damage in zergs. Necro fares better in duels too but lacks mobility to escape from outnumbered situations.

Don’t play a class depending on how strong it is since each balance patch can shift things. Id say necro is an easier class to do OK with. Play what you find fun, or even better play both. Why would you limit yourself?

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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In short the necromancer is a rubbish profession forever stuck at the “average” DPS tier with poor support in most of the PvE content. All the unique feature of the necromancer are designed around PvP which is why it perform poorly in PvE (group content).

While the elementalist is a profession with great innate support that rely a lot on it’s traits to excel either in resilience or in DPS. The most glaring issue of the Elementalist is it’s poor innate survivability in PvP content.

It’s up to you to see whether you prefer being the usefull guy with poor survivability in most of the game content (Elementalist) or the guy that is not so often needed but have great passive survivability (Necromancer).

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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well i dont like to be forced to play support >< like ele is for ranked pvp atm :P and how u say necro is average isnt necro part of most esl teams? And is necro really that rubbish?

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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ppl play necro because they enjoy it. i main ele because i find it fun. i dont play pvp because support is boring. my advice is go ele. if u want to play pvp try other classes. u dont need to lvl in pvp anyway. u r free to run anything there. as far as pvp goes, what type of playstyle do you go for? every class does things a bit different. some are better at certain things than others.


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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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What is best weapons to lvl necro scepter/warhorn and staff or dagger7dagger or something? and if i going scepter to i want power on condi damage on my gear and weapons?

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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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what speciality i should learn 1st? i learn pet traits :p they probaby really useful while lvling

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

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The best weapon is main hand dagger. It doesnt matter much what you pick as off hand and 2nd weapon. The autoattack has good damage.

Scepter is a condition based weapon. Damage over time is bad for lvling as things die too quickly so power is better.

Minions are alright. You may also want to unlock signet of locust for 25% movement speed bonus.

It doesnt matter much what specialisation you unlock first. Anything but curses really is ok. I would go spite or soul reaping for damage.

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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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Thank you wery much guys

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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well i dont like to be forced to play support >< like ele is for ranked pvp atm :P and how u say necro is average isnt necro part of most esl teams? And is necro really that rubbish?

There is one thing that you need to know. In GW2 support abilities are not what you are used to see in other game. Support in GW2 is 50 to 75% of the optimum dps. Being a support in GW2 does not mean that you just heal and grant boons, the support is most of the time directly tied to your dps skills. The point is that the elementalist naturally provide ton of support (buffing himself and it’s partner while doing it’s stuff) while the necromancer have a very selfish gameplay in which it’s support abilities are way inferior to the elementalist’s one.

And yes, a necromancer is a band of rubber (whatever it’s stat choice) if not heavily focused.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: TheShniper.1852

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Well… Necro is not is top tier for raiding/ fractals. All u need in high lvl fractals are necros and maybe one support class. And in raids they are great condi damage so i dont know where u get the rubish damage from

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Posted by: Nurfed.5346

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other players telling rubbish damage thatswhi i asked and is it good in pvp?

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

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PvP: Both classes are boring to play atm due to the lack of build diversity and being slaves to teamfights to shine. Elementalists play the healing bots role that seek out team fights to support their damage dealing teammates whilst bringing no damage or mobility of their own. Necromancer is stuck with the squishy corruptor condi dps that needs baby setting ironically from an ele or any other support class to stay alive. Power necro has been long gone from the ranked pvp scene just like power ele. Playing power on either is like putting a “Kill me please” sign. RiP build diversity, it is just disappointing.
Every pvp game needs an elementalist to carry but not so much a necromancer. I’d not play either class in ranked pvp unless I have to.

Raid: Using the raiding meta builds both classes are popular and are commonly taken as damage dealers in raids while still providing some group utility. Viper Necro is more welcomed than Power necro in a raid setting. Marauder/Zerker Elementalists are the normally used builds but some groups opt for a healer ele and tank eles. I have never been in a group that welcomed a condition ele though so…in anycase a couple of raid encounters heavily favors eles over necros for the burst damage potential and somtimes will require you to readjust your build and weapons to suit the encounter but you can’t go wrong with either.

WvW: First never equip full set of berserker gear on either classes(dont use your pve build) unless you are crazy careful and pick your target, otherwise rip npcs and players would turn you to dust and theives would prey on you if they see you and know what you run. Solo/Duo Roaming wise both suck but are still viable due to OP food and gear and the general low quality of players in wvw. Small Scale Skermish/ Havoc team both are very valuable to any group as long as you watch your positioning and not overstep your bounds. This is very build and group comp dependent and you could get away with any type of a reasonable build here. For zergs both classes in power/support builds are the backbone of any decent zerg/guild raid. For zerging and large scale battles seek out your local commanders on the server you play on.

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