Guild Wars 2

i was in the wychmire swap today and came across a level 15 champion troll with a few adds surrounded by more trolls. I am level 39, scaled of course to about 16 or 17. I avoided the troll cause i knew i couldn’t take it or its buddies or any of the other trolls that i would agro cause i am forced to run around like a freaking rabbit.

Someone later engaged the troll a level 27 warrior scaled to bout 16. he had the troll to about 1/2 to 2/3 health when i arrived. He was killing the champions buddies and any adds along with the C-troll. I helped out to get some credit but there was no doubt that he was going to win the fight though it was going to be a long fight. I of course still died just to its periphery damage apparently it belches out some poison which killed me. Well I didn’t actually die because the warrior killed the troll.

Something is horribly wrong with the casting classes in this game. Horribly. I have two sets of health pools and the poison ate through both along with his buddies, but not the warriors. There is no way in h e l l any class should take down a champion anything on its own. And if its ok for this to happen then I want my casting classes buffed to be able to do the same. The warrior made a point to tell me his level as if to mock my class.

Arenet if you dont know how to properly create a casting class take a look at eq2 My wizard has plenty of abilities to keep a mob at distance and kill such critters in that game.

Folks are soloing dungeon explorable-mode bosses with necros. Personally I’m not good enough to get even close to solo’ing a champion. Some people are so amazingly good that they can do unthinkable things. Yep some classes make this easier than others, but I’d be willing to bet the warrior was doing the exact right things (dodges, blocks, damage mitigation, etc.) at the exact right time because he knows the fights and knows his abilities top to bottom. I can say I’d have a better chance with my engineer than my necro because I know my engineer very well.

In before l2p elitism.

no its not a l2p issue, and i know of no one who can solo any of the dungeon bosses. Necro is severally g im pe d or the warrior is severely OP. moreover i have rolled a warrior and ranger and i am finding play extremely less difficult then with my two casters.

tbh if you let the poison eat through both your health pools as you said, then it really sounds like a matter of l2p..

Consume conditions.

Melee is extremely gear / spec dependent for doing that type of thing. Because you’re more or less trading blows. A good kiting class (or even a bad one if it has amazing cc) should have an easy time with it.

ok leaf head over to the forest with your 39 necro and take out the troll you’ll have 39 levels to learn to dodge and weave every thing that this mob throws out and learn me how great you are. Meanwhile the rest of us who are already leveling up a warrior and necro, and aren’t fanboys of the warrior know that a nerf beating is needed for the warrior or something must be done to bring the clothe classes up with the other classes.

NatashaK obviously you haven’t tried to kite in the champions area or you wouldn’t make the statement. You can kite but you will bring in adds the area very limited. kiting isn’t really the way to win this expect for cloth it is the only way to win it. There are trolls everywhere that spawn on top of you, the fight is long. its not meant to be soloable by any class, except the warrior soloed or would have had i not joined int for the ride.

The point i am trying to illustrate is the dire need to fix cloth. This was not a soloable encounter. Yet it was soloable for the warrior. The argument that some classes are better at soloing is moot here, this was not a soloable encounter. If other classes are gifted so much i want some of that for my toon so I too can solo group encounters. Its only fair. Otherwise fix are issues and bring the warrior inline with the rest of us

Interestingly a 27 warrior would be without any elites what so ever, as that slot only opens at 30. Would love to have known the guys weapons and utilities tho. This because level tells us much less about someones potential than his weapon and utility choices. a level 20 have more utilities on hand than a level 4 after all.

Soloing low-level champions isn’t that hard. It takes a long time, but it’s certainly doable. Intelligent healing, CC, and DS use is necessary. The Flesh Golem helps a lot just for absorbing damage and cripple (assuming you can get it to attack the right target).

Eviator.9746:

Folks are soloing dungeon explorable-mode bosses with necros.

I call bullkitten unless you link a video. I’ve only seen guardians do that on select dungeons.

I think I know the troll you’re talking about – a little cave in the asuran starting area?

I took him out, plus his adds on my necromancer, who was probably around level 20 at the time. It took a solid 5 minutes or so, but I achieved it by kiting it with a staff and axe causing chill and cripple almost constantly, and when both of those were on cooldown I switched to DS to take the damage.

The adds re-spawned about 3 or 4 times before I killed him, but I never once went lower than 3/4 health. Learn to kite as a caster, and timing your dodges, DS usage, and cripples

Solo`d a couple of champions and story mode bosses as MM so far but i cant remember which ones anymore. However lately ive solo`d the ooze champion in metrica province as wells necro, not hard.

Doesnt mean we dont need fixes/buffs, because yes i could have probably done it a lot faster/better on another prof.

Necromancer is easily one of the best PvE classes.

striker.3704:

I call bullkitten unless you link a video. I’ve only seen guardians do that on select dungeons.

This stinks, I know someone claimed soloing a specific boss using a minion build in explorable Arah. But I can’t find the claim. Could have been either here or in the guru forums, since at the time I was following both. I’ll keep looking.

It’s important to note that I realize that the mechanics of the fight matters, and that the mechanics have to be just right for solo’ing to be viable.

Edit: Here is a link I found with a link to screenshots. No video – http://immune-systems.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=8159

Eviator.9746:

striker.3704:

I call bullkitten unless you link a video. I’ve only seen guardians do that on select dungeons.

This stinks, I know someone claimed soloing a specific boss using a minion build in explorable Arah. But I can’t find the claim. Could have been either here or in the guru forums, since at the time I was following both. I’ll keep looking.

It’s important to note that I realize that the mechanics of the fight matters, and that the mechanics have to be just right for solo’ing to be viable.

Edit: Here is a link I found with a link to screenshots. No video – http://immune-systems.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=8159

well I’ll be kitten I’m impressed he was able to do that.

and if u are smart and add the dodge + mark of blood extra dmg ,)

Sure, kiting works. But imo it cheapens the role part of the game as it ends up being about player vs mob rather than role vs mob.