Guild Wars 2

i am gonna get right to the point

so, i am newly trying to get into necro, and need a build, my favourite weapons are mainhand dagger and focus

i prefer power builds, and would like to have the above mentioned weapons in that build, staff as well if possible, love dat fear on it, so someone can post a pvp build for me?

i tried some own made stuff and always seemed to be targetted first , always, even when trying to stay behind my own team they targetted me >.< , must be cause downed necro is easiest to stomp, and the lack of mobility is just ..crap..

so i would like to gather some hints either:p

thanks in advance!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBIhZakjmWbrtx4G2bTgLUQPABQLEVIQdbcGPLA-TZgaAAQZAA

Deathly Perception powerbuild, you can both use Focus or Horn as offhand, and you can decide if keeping staff as secondary or bring axe (with relative Spite trait).
You can both go with Berserking trinkets or Soldier, but I still suggest you to go with Soldier.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBIhZakjmuabqxvG2bTENASHOlJth0A-TZgaAAQZAA

Classic Meta Minion Master, the decision on weapons depends on you, same as before.
I don’t like this kind of Minion Master, but it seems to be the most used around.

Generally the use of your offhand depends on what you want to do: Focus is mostly for getting Life Force and bursting (#4), dispelling boons and kiting (#5), while Horn is mostly used for chain CCs (#4) and mobility (#5).
I still suggest you to consider offhand Dagger, because of its unestimable Condi removal (#4) and aoe weakness (#5).
The Staff is mostly a support item, used for the Aoe Fear (#5) and the condition removal (#4)… eventually for Poison and Weakness (#3 combofield + #4), but is generally a “not totally bad but nearly bad” weapon.
I suggest Staff on the DeathShroud build because the Life Blast damage from staff is usually the highest.

oh thanks a lot, but what about runes? strenght runes r good ?

with battle sigils ofc

and i tried miniomancer, its so called.. op on pointfights against certain proffessions…

but i didnt like the play style, way too boring

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQRAod3Yn0ISrN2SDe2A7NoAXQmc4VIXEIqPU2OOA-TJBBwAAOJAeeCA12focZAA

So far I haven’t gotten much shine or support for this(my) build, but it’s been successful for me – very much so. Sorry there’s no staff :/ but maybe this will spark an idea for making it work somehow.

lol again this troll with Signet of Vampirism.

#Wyrden:
For runes.. if you want to go full DPS then Divinity, Ogre, Lyssa, can’t really say, focus on Power and Ferocity.
Sigils raising Crit and sigil of fire for the DeathShroud build and flat damage/energy for Minion Master.
You can approach for a more bunker MM by getting Water/Melandru/Dolyak runes and Cleric gear.

Luke.4562:

lol again this troll with Signet of Vampirism.

#Wyrden:
For runes.. if you want to go full DPS then Divinity, Ogre, Lyssa, can’t really say, focus on Power and Ferocity.
Sigils raising Crit and sigil of fire for the DeathShroud build and flat damage/energy for Minion Master.
You can approach for a more bunker MM by getting Water/Melandru/Dolyak runes and Cleric gear.

why do you assume I’m a troll?? I honestly use this build and I kick kitten . I’d post videos if I had more than 14-19 fps on a regular basis. And no money for recording stuff..

Please, if you doubt this build, 1v1 me. (Krude.7495 or Ambitious Ashley). I’ll be getting on within the hour.

/facepalm
Do you really think an 1v1 whould show your build is optimal?
Sorry but for me it’s a totally pathetic attitude challenging people around like this.

Luke.4562:

/facepalm
Do you really think an 1v1 whould show your build is optimal?
Sorry but for me it’s a totally pathetic attitude challenging people around like this.

You’re completely missing the point, if I can efficiently diminish a fighting force from the enemy team, though one by one, that gives my team a +1 essentially – taking in account the time it takes for the fallen enemy to respawn.

I’m also not sure what you mean by “challenging people around like this”. If your gonna doubt my build, what other way can I prove to you its efficacy? So.. I’m not trying to pick a fight, just trying to prove a point. Thanks for calling my attitude pathetic doe, truly respectful. .

Whatever there are different ways to explain your point, calling for a 1v1 with the words you used send a certain message to others. If that’s not what you meant I’m ready to apologize..

I’ve been defending the concept of my build all day. If you (not just you, I mean anyone familiar w the necro) know the Necro, my build should be reasonably understandable, though different in it’s intent and play style.

I’m running out of ideas on how else to prove it’s mettle – aside from PvP’ing back-to-back when I’m not on forums. The message, was, if you doubt me, challenge me – therefore proving any honest curiosity on your end so i could then hopefully sate that curiosity.

All anyone would have to do to kill your build is watch for you to use the signet if you miss gg. Even if you hit its subpar.

i wanted to ask one more thing, the dual dagger trait speed increase works also if i got d/f and sc/d? or do i need to have d/d equipped?

NeXeD.3042:

All anyone would have to do to kill your build is watch for you to use the signet if you miss gg. Even if you hit its subpar.

Wrong, even when I miss, players get cahcky and think I still won’t hit hard. Remember I have two very consistent condition-transfers + blind. I go in and out of DS like a dolphin wading through the water, and this well-played strategy gets me a win in nearly every 1v1 I’ve ever been in. Yes, i’ll occasionally miss, but that’s not the end of the battle.

Wyrden.4713:

i wanted to ask one more thing, the dual dagger trait speed increase works also if i got d/f and sc/d? or do i need to have d/d equipped?

it says you get 15% with one dagger equipped i think..

Krude.7495:

NeXeD.3042:

All anyone would have to do to kill your build is watch for you to use the signet if you miss gg. Even if you hit its subpar.

Wrong, even when I miss, players get cahcky and think I still won’t hit hard. Remember I have two very consistent condition-transfers + blind. I go in and out of DS like a dolphin wading through the water, and this well-played strategy gets me a win in nearly every 1v1 I’ve ever been in. Yes, i’ll occasionally miss, but that’s not the end of the battle.

sigh….. Ok your very very pretty.

NeXeD.3042:

sigh….. Ok your very very pretty.

lol Thank you I totally understand your doubts towards SoV, and a skilled player can definitely take advantage of the moment it misses. But like any battle between skilled players, one little mistake can be all it takes to lose the 1v1.

yeah I tried a kittening signet necro for like an hour today and still managed to kill people in hotjoins, did one game in yoloq with it and my team was so so so so angry with me it wasn’t even funny. SoV is bad im sorry it just is. People did the same thing to me everytime I poped em with sov and chilled them they would cleanse the chil and run away for 10 seconds then come back and ruin me. It does not work. You know when signet works? When there is so much lag that you literally cant hit your heal skill anyway.

NeXeD.3042:

yeah I tried a kittening signet necro for like an hour today and still managed to kill people in hotjoins, did one game in yoloq with it and my team was so so so so angry with me it wasn’t even funny. SoV is bad im sorry it just is. People did the same thing to me everytime I poped em with sov and chilled them they would cleanse the chil and run away for 10 seconds then come back and ruin me. It does not work. You know when signet works? When there is so much lag that you literally cant hit your heal skill anyway.

After they cleansed, why did you not wreck them at that point? And do you mean all signets? Cuz i run spectral grasp, well of suffering, and plague signet. As soon as anyone tries to run + condition cleanse, I DS 2 (dark path). . . If that misses I got spinal shivers and dark pact. And running this build in sPvP is not bad at all if you got good team synergy. (I’ve had my good teams and bad teams come and go, it very much so the luck of the draw – I’ve also never been called out for bad performance so.. there’s that as well)
I’ve had a good experience with this build. But now I’ve moved on to an edited version. (may post in Necro forums later)

How the hell do you control team synergy in Spvp. yes I know your build wasn’t all signets I was playing a troll build to see if I could still kill people to prove a point that just because a build works in hotjoins doesn’t mean it works in good to decent PvP. I wasn’t called out for bad performance I was called out for using a completely ridiculous build. To be fair we actually won that tpvp game I was actually quite fast as a signet necro and could res teammates. You keep playing with whatever build you want but its just not meta for tpvp. Also spectral grasp is like th buggiest skill a necro has if I’m going to use a skill that’s bugged to kitten its gonna be corrupt boon. People in Tpvp either don’t run alone or have multiple Condi cleanses relying on chill to make sure you can hit people so you can heal is not effective. You like your build because you came up with it so your going to defend it even when every other player with more experience than you is saying its nog as effective as our other builds. In a class where we are already at a disadvantage sometimes I’d prefer to use a build where I can help my team.

sooooo, i mean do i get the full 25% boost if i have dagger in mainhand in one set and in the OTHER SET the offhand dagger?

no your only getting 15% at a time. Don’t waste your trait points.

Unless you wanna wield nothin but daggers! (shoot I might just try that).

NeXeD, do you mean sPvP as in structured, or solo? Regardless, it’s controlled by both parties (your team and you), smart players will notice each other and synergy can be attained (even if starting out poorly). — And sorry for the misunderstanding, I wasn’t sure how you meant your teammates responded when you said they were angry with you.
And of course I’m gonna defend my build, because it works for me. I’m in the process of making videos to prove it. Unfortunately however, I don’t have a team for tourneys :/ I could try to solo que and I’ll get back to you with a video on how it works out. I also made a new theory-build that I’ve already made a video for; so I’ve already tried to adapt to what I’ve heard and experienced concerning my previous build. It’s working “alright”.

Spectral grasp is the combo maker AND breaker. I love it for the concept’s sake – a chilling grasp that pulls the enemy to your feet (sometimes- most times if used at a smart range). Even still, I put that move on the back burner for now to test more theories. – I still found it very entertaining + competitive with most, because I played differently; and some people became flustered after throwing their conditions back at them, and then pulling them in for my destructive Well of Suffering, Dark Pact, Golem Charge, Reaper touch, (switch) rendering claws combo — at this point I have at least 6 stacks of might and my bleed damage goes from 100’ish to 400’ish. I won’t bore you any more tho with what you think isn’t good enough for the meta’s. I’ll post videos (in time) and do my best to prove it that way.

What I’m saying is doing ok or well in spvp hotjoins does not good a build make. If you managed to rank up in tPvP soloq then maybe people would need to take a second look or if you ot noticed by a good team again it would make people take a second look. I made a signet necro to troll the kitten out of people telling them to uninstall everytime I killed them. But even if I was killing people moving quickly capping points and reading teammates it doesn’t mean the build would work in good Tpvp.

Ressing teammates…. Stupid phone autocorrect.

NeXeD.3042:

What I’m saying is doing ok or well in spvp hotjoins does not good a build make. If you managed to rank up in tPvP soloq then maybe people would need to take a second look or if you ot noticed by a good team again it would make people take a second look. I made a signet necro to troll the kitten out of people telling them to uninstall everytime I killed them. But even if I was killing people moving quickly capping points and reading teammates it doesn’t mean the build would work in good Tpvp.

Okay, I see what you’re saying. I will need to play more PvP now before talking about it any more. I’ll do my best to get out there with the pro’s! Just remember where you heard of/read/saw all these experimental builds comin’ from ^^ My first video is being edited to fit the youtube video-screen, and then more footage will be comin up of my old+new builds. As for Tpvp, I’ll just have to hope I catch a team-with-an-opening’s eye. Or maybe I could form my own team! Now I’m pumped!

The guy with SoV minimum toughness and 1 stun breaker thinks his build is good!? Have you ever faced Hambow? one hammer rotation and you are dead… smh

Narkodx.1472:

The guy with SoV minimum toughness and 1 stun breaker thinks his build is good!? Have you ever faced Hambow? one hammer rotation and you are dead… smh

Funny that you ask, I have, and I’ve wrecked hambows with my (old.. and new)build(s); I’ve even received hate-filled whispers from said-hambows after wrecking them.

Hambows are… Beatable.

smh.

If you’ve beaten a hambow warrior with that build than it was a really really bad player.

so much negativity, jesus if it works for him and not you good for him who cares
@Wyrden try this
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAodWjc00abtNO2wejicBZqgQFI6PjOR57vA-TpRGwAAOBAKeAAJOCAf2fYaZACHCAA

open with staff and the rest should fall in place, this is for spvp im not sure if you wanted spvp or wVw, ill be testing this build out in a sec see how it playes

You can swap SOS for well of suffering or anything else you want

When I first started playing this game I would have agreed with you. But now with a little more experience I have realized there are reasons why some kitten works and why some kitten doesn’t and I’m probably not going to be to the first one to figure it out. So I will continue to stand on the shoulders of those before me.

Also he’s playing hot joins earlier in this thread I me it clear I could make it “work” I started running a signet necro and still managed to kill people so it " works" right?

I apologize for not being foolish enough to play the game at a low level and one day I get a couple kills and decide that this build must be good. I’m not good enough yet to put myself out there and try and say my unique build is good enough to be used at the highest levels of pvp, I also do not wish to influence some poor new player by feeding them kitten information and passing it off as knowledge when in fact this could hinder and cause frustration. If I am saying something isn’t very effective, it in no way means you can’t use it effectively merely that there are better alternatives as proven by more experienced players.

Wyrden.4713:

i am gonna get right to the point

so, i am newly trying to get into necro, and need a build, my favourite weapons are mainhand dagger and focus

i prefer power builds, and would like to have the above mentioned weapons in that build, staff as well if possible, love dat fear on it, so someone can post a pvp build for me?

i tried some own made stuff and always seemed to be targetted first , always, even when trying to stay behind my own team they targetted me >.< , must be cause downed necro is easiest to stomp, and the lack of mobility is just ..crap..

so i would like to gather some hints either:p

thanks in advance!

want an honest opinion? play the class before you try playing someone else’s build.

Lightsbane.9012:

Wyrden.4713:

i am gonna get right to the point

so, i am newly trying to get into necro, and need a build, my favourite weapons are mainhand dagger and focus

i prefer power builds, and would like to have the above mentioned weapons in that build, staff as well if possible, love dat fear on it, so someone can post a pvp build for me?

i tried some own made stuff and always seemed to be targetted first , always, even when trying to stay behind my own team they targetted me >.< , must be cause downed necro is easiest to stomp, and the lack of mobility is just ..crap..

so i would like to gather some hints either:p

thanks in advance!

want an honest opinion? play the class before you try playing someone else’s build.

He already mention that he played and was not having any success.

alamore.1974:

Lightsbane.9012:

Wyrden.4713:

i am gonna get right to the point

so, i am newly trying to get into necro, and need a build, my favourite weapons are mainhand dagger and focus

i prefer power builds, and would like to have the above mentioned weapons in that build, staff as well if possible, love dat fear on it, so someone can post a pvp build for me?

i tried some own made stuff and always seemed to be targetted first , always, even when trying to stay behind my own team they targetted me >.< , must be cause downed necro is easiest to stomp, and the lack of mobility is just ..crap..

so i would like to gather some hints either:p

thanks in advance!

want an honest opinion? play the class before you try playing someone else’s build.

He already mention that he played and was not having any success.

alright then. i’ll fix what i said.
experiment and find whats best for you. in all honesty, it’s hard to have success with necromancer in certain situations.

Lightsbane.9012:

alamore.1974:

Lightsbane.9012:

Wyrden.4713:

i am gonna get right to the point

so, i am newly trying to get into necro, and need a build, my favourite weapons are mainhand dagger and focus

i prefer power builds, and would like to have the above mentioned weapons in that build, staff as well if possible, love dat fear on it, so someone can post a pvp build for me?

i tried some own made stuff and always seemed to be targetted first , always, even when trying to stay behind my own team they targetted me >.< , must be cause downed necro is easiest to stomp, and the lack of mobility is just ..crap..

so i would like to gather some hints either:p

thanks in advance!

want an honest opinion? play the class before you try playing someone else’s build.

He already mention that he played and was not having any success.

alright then. i’ll fix what i said.
experiment and find whats best for you. in all honesty, it’s hard to have success with necromancer in certain situations.

All the more reason to offer some help.

Sometimes a profession’s mechanics aren’t as apparent to someone as they are to you. When I started necro, I didn’t see DS as a 2nd health bar but rather as access to special skills, until I read about using DS and LF generation for attrition. Even a skeleton of a build or some clever trait/skill synergy are helpful.