Guild Wars 2

So aparently their was a clue with the Guardian specialization picture. We didn’t really see it and the picture we got for the necromancer looks rather genaric and doesn’t really suggest anything. Not Banshee, not ritualist, not duskblade, not warlock and not even witch. But it might suggest something.

Take a look at the armor the necromancer is wearing. It could be nothing and by all means, it might be. But he’s wearing Vestments of the Lich, dry bones armor and some sort of hood. Well the hood looks kinda like the Raiment of the Lich. It seems that Arena net is no stranger to making creatures specializations. A Revenant is a type of undead. So what I’m suggesting is it could be that the specialization might very well be the lich.

Which I have to say would be a very interesting choice as a first specialization. Something that is really hard to kill on top of a profession that supposed to be really hard to kill.

This will be my last prediction before its revealed. No shouts. No spirits. No Banshee. No ritualist. The Lich. My prediction is that we are going to become a lich.

Now as for what type of skills we will get, I honestly haven’t the foggiest. Glyphs, Cantrips, Arcane, Conjure, Manipulation, Elixir and even something as bazaar as consecrations aren’t off the table.

Kinda a shame, I’d really have liked to see the epic return of ritualist.

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

OlliX.1705:

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

I think everyone hopes its going to be their profession. Ours it would be the most fitting though. At least in my opinion.

OlliX.1705:

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

what is this defiance bar?

Comus.7365:

OlliX.1705:

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

what is this defiance bar?

it makes us immune to CC for a while but when its broken we get stunned for a long duration.

Comus.7365:

OlliX.1705:

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

what is this defiance bar?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Breakbar

It was mentioned a while back in a gw2 news article (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-two-reward-tracks-and-elite-specializations/) that one of the specialisations would be able to get a defiance bar through traits. Quote:
" I’m personally excited about a grandmaster trait that has the power to grant my character a defiance bar!"

We’re going to turn to permanent lich form. Necromancer Fixed.

oh that sounds pretty cool

Targuil.3741:

We’re going to turn to permanent lich form. Necromancer Fixed.

I wonder if arena net has considered removing lich form and completely changing plague? Honestly, I wouldn’t be against it, personally.

Lily.1935:

So aparently their was a clue with the Guardian specialization picture. We didn’t really see it and the picture we got for the necromancer looks rather genaric and doesn’t really suggest anything. Not Banshee, not ritualist, not duskblade, not warlock and not even witch. But it might suggest something.

Take a look at the armor the necromancer is wearing. It could be nothing and by all means, it might be. But he’s wearing Vestments of the Lich, dry bones armor and some sort of hood. Well the hood looks kinda like the Raiment of the Lich. It seems that Arena net is no stranger to making creatures specializations. A Revenant is a type of undead. So what I’m suggesting is it could be that the specialization might very well be the lich.

Which I have to say would be a very interesting choice as a first specialization. Something that is really hard to kill on top of a profession that supposed to be really hard to kill.

This will be my last prediction before its revealed. No shouts. No spirits. No Banshee. No ritualist. The Lich. My prediction is that we are going to become a lich.

Now as for what type of skills we will get, I honestly haven’t the foggiest. Glyphs, Cantrips, Arcane, Conjure, Manipulation, Elixir and even something as bazaar as consecrations aren’t off the table.

Kinda a shame, I’d really have liked to see the epic return of ritualist.

The only problem I have with this theory is that we already have Lich Form as our Elite-Skill…

OlliX.1705:

It was mentioned a while back in a gw2 news article (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-two-reward-tracks-and-elite-specializations/) that one of the specialisations would be able to get a defiance bar through traits. Quote:
" I’m personally excited about a grandmaster trait that has the power to grant my character a defiance bar!"

Probably the revenant that has that.

Shiki.7148:

The only problem I have with this theory is that we already have Lich Form as our Elite-Skill…

why would that be a problem? And who’s to say that lich form isn’t being removed as an elite and being replaced? I mean, its possible right? People have been discussing the placement of Lich Form and plague for a while now and tombs are being removed so its not off the table. I know the big difference between tombs compared to lich form and plague is both lich form and plague are both used. The problem I see with Lich form and plague though is that they don’t provide interesting game play.

Lily.1935:

Shiki.7148:

The only problem I have with this theory is that we already have Lich Form as our Elite-Skill…

why would that be a problem? And who’s to say that lich form isn’t being removed as an elite and being replaced? I mean, its possible right? People have been discussing the placement of Lich Form and plague for a while now and tombs are being removed so its not off the table. I know the big difference between tombs compared to lich form and plague is both lich form and plague are both used. The problem I see with Lich form and plague though is that they don’t provide interesting game play.

The problem is the very thing a Lich is in the GW universe. A huge green glowy thing with horns. While it is true that a Revenant is a type of undead OUTSIDE of the GW universe, there has been no prescedent of it INSIDE it. For Liches, that isn’t true. That is one of the huge problem with people saying “but name x is supposed to be y”, because, while it might apply in eg. Dungeons&Dragons, inside the GW universe it doesn’t have to be that.

Example : They could create a heavy armor class that does dark magic and call it a rogue, they could make a medium class that specializes in Spirits a rogue, or they could call a light armor profession that whacks people with a sword a rogue. Even though a “traditional” rogue outside of GW is none of that. With things like “Seraph” , “Lich” (and yes, to some extent “Reaper”) that already exist within the universe, doing something that contradicts the established definition of those is extremely unlikely and would be pretty immersion breaking.

We do need a condi and power focused elite that is not a transform. Plague and lich are good but situational, and let’s face it the goldm sucks kitten .

Shiki.7148:

Lily.1935:

Shiki.7148:

The only problem I have with this theory is that we already have Lich Form as our Elite-Skill…

why would that be a problem? And who’s to say that lich form isn’t being removed as an elite and being replaced? I mean, its possible right? People have been discussing the placement of Lich Form and plague for a while now and tombs are being removed so its not off the table. I know the big difference between tombs compared to lich form and plague is both lich form and plague are both used. The problem I see with Lich form and plague though is that they don’t provide interesting game play.

The problem is the very thing a Lich is in the GW universe. A huge green glowy thing with horns. While it is true that a Revenant is a type of undead OUTSIDE of the GW universe, there has been no prescedent of it INSIDE it. For Liches, that isn’t true. That is one of the huge problem with people saying “but name x is supposed to be y”, because, while it might apply in eg. Dungeons&Dragons, inside the GW universe it doesn’t have to be that.

Example : They could create a heavy armor class that does dark magic and call it a rogue, they could make a medium class that specializes in Spirits a rogue, or they could call a light armor profession that whacks people with a sword a rogue. Even though a “traditional” rogue outside of GW is none of that. With things like “Seraph” , “Lich” (and yes, to some extent “Reaper”) that already exist within the universe, doing something that contradicts the established definition of those is extremely unlikely and would be pretty immersion breaking.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Ritualist
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ritualist

Not a very good argument on your part. Ritualist was a type of necromancer in the first game and it became a profession. And the only creatures to ever become liches were all necromancers Well, except for the nameless lich but as far as we know she could very well be. So why not us? Also, Liches are not all green. They have the green motif in GW2 but this wasn’t the case in GW1

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Undead_Lich
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Palawa_Joko
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Nameless_Lich

As far as we are concerned, there really isn’t a lore reason we couldn’t become liches. We’ve died a million times already and we cheat death. So I don’t see the problem.

Gryph.8237:

We do need a condi and power focused elite that is not a transform. Plague and lich are good but situational, and let’s face it the goldm sucks kitten .

Golem would be great if it wasn’t riddled with bugs. And yeah, I agree with you. It would be nice to have the legendary demon stance skill.. You know.. The one that acts just like this!

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Contagion

A power option would be nice as well. But what though? A well? I’d be all for a well. Or a spectral skill.

I could actually see them reworking Lich like they are with tomes. And say lich will come back in the future with a new elite spec called demonologist which has transform utilities. My biggest worry with that is whether they will actually give us a really good alternative to compensate the loss of lich form.

Anyway, the closest i think of for this theme from the picture is the statue of Abbaddon in Durmand Priory.

http://i.imgur.com/rUu5GOn.jpg

Notice the hands and 6 eyes and compare them to the GS and the gauntlets.

We already have lich form as elite, being called lich would be redundant. I like it but I doubt it.

Kilger.5490:

We already have lich form as elite, being called lich would be redundant. I like it but I doubt it.

^ this.

Kilger.5490:

We already have lich form as elite, being called lich would be redundant. I like it but I doubt it.

And we already have banshee’s wail. Doesn’t that mean banshee is out of the question too?

I might be crazy, but I get a strong mordrem/plant vibe from the picture. The leafy green splotches on the side, the choice of outfit, the orange glow spots on a weapon that has a bit of a mordrem feel to it… Belinda’s fate and the idea that her sister is the creator of the specialization.

Lily.1935:

Kilger.5490:

We already have lich form as elite, being called lich would be redundant. I like it but I doubt it.

And we already have banshee’s wail. Doesn’t that mean banshee is out of the question too?

I hope so because it’s a silly name for a class.

cerulean moth.2743:

Lily.1935:

Kilger.5490:

We already have lich form as elite, being called lich would be redundant. I like it but I doubt it.

And we already have banshee’s wail. Doesn’t that mean banshee is out of the question too?

I hope so because it’s a silly name for a class.

I hope so too. But I also really want shouts for my ele.

Lich…I’m getting an insect,carnivorous plant,possessed vibe I’m still with a mix with either thief or warrior I would prefer thief war is too close to us in design already. So yep necro style venoms but I am more worried about base necro.

I got it! Mordremancer!

Lich is close to what I expect from anet, just for a different reason. Somewhere along the line they said that the goal with the base professions is still to let you fill any role with any profession, while the elite specializations will be tailored to be good at a specific role. I’m pretty clear that they see us as a tough profession to begin with, and won’t be surprised if they build on that to make us into default tanks. (I wouldn’t mind that if its done in a fun way – but I wouldn’t mind being surprised, either.)

Sagat.3285:

Lich…I’m getting an insect,carnivorous plant,possessed vibe I’m still with a mix with either thief or warrior I would prefer thief war is too close to us in design already. So yep necro style venoms but I am more worried about base necro.

Agree 100%. Warrior mechanics on the necro would be so vanilla, whereas thief mechanics would change our play style a lot. It would be interesting to say the least esp if we got stealth hahah. In addition, I am greatly concerned they will simply do nothing to change our base class which needs a lot of help

OlliX.1705:

I guess the defiance bar kinda fits with that idea too, though we don’t know who’s getting that yet.

After two years of saying "We don’t have stun breaks or anti-cc/ Invulnerabilities " you’d think a defiance bar is exactly what we need and I’m sure anet is picking up on that. We’ll have to see.

What if the specialization was Risen Priest of Grenth and Necromancer spams Ice Storm, shades, and Shadow Strike?

And the hoodie

Anchoku.8142:

What if the specialization was Risen Priest of Grenth and Necromancer spams Ice Storm, shades, and Shadow Strike?

And the hoodie

In that case the spec name will, most likely, be Reaper, as in “Reapers of Grenth”.

I believe we getting transformations as our mechanics and venoms or glyph as our skill

I reminds me of something like this
Looks like a stance