new necro- the start of the match is not cool

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Posted by: Zantmar.5406

Zantmar.5406

guys I’m kind new to my necro so i kinda suck (i been playign warrior all dis time) only played 130 ish matches on my nec using the standard power necro but man recently i noticed some things that happens very often

part 1:

1 i walk to a point to try to capture it
2 a power ranger shows up before i can get there (obviously)
3 said ranger shoots me with barrage
4 i double dodge to avoid the damage
5 it does that aoe rain of arrow thing
6 i loose half of my hp before i even engage him
7 i’m dead after it does a greatsword chain

all this time i barely built up any life force

part 2:

1 medi guard teleport in and down me cause i have no lifeforce
2 end of story

cant we at least get a quarter bar of life force to work with in the beginning of the match???

this sort of stuff dosnt happen on my warrior because i can try to endru pain /bock the high damaging stuff when i know i’m being spiked- i mean ranger’s long bow is obvious that i’m getting shot at but as necro at the beginning of the match i literally dont feel like i can do anything against it?- maybe spectral armor? but i still take the damage in the process

edit: the fact that lots of our skills are in the death shroud hinders us even more because we cant even use the godkitten thing till we build it up

Life blast should hit twice and have its damage halfed
If Rocket Charge is only 2 leaps then it should look like 2 leaps
True Shot should be cast on the move

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

Sorry, according to the devs access to “a second health bar” means that we don’t need blocks/aegis/vigor/invuln/mobility… your best bet is to just die a few times until your LF gets high enough to survive. I usually just go in guns blazing and spam every LF generator I have and try to die as fast as possible so I can actually play.

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Posted by: Malchior.1928

Malchior.1928

Such is the life of a necromancer.

No easymode 11 seconds of endure pain and berzerker stance.
No signet of stone
No mobility (without being creative of course).

GG hardcore mode !

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Posted by: Nekrothaft.6390

Nekrothaft.6390

Sorry but, according to Arenanet, Necros are in a good spot right now.

“Necros are in a good spot”…. let the kitten sacrifice commence.

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

Gryph.8237

Sorry but, according to Arenanet, Necros are in a good spot right now.

ahahahhahaha anet does not understand its own game. hey anet, try and play the necro, past some of your fall asleep easy pve zones.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

Welcome to doomland.

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Posted by: zapv.8051

zapv.8051

This is why necros have been asking for LF at the beginning of the match, every other class gets their profession mechanic for the whole match. Meanwhile, we can literally be shut out of a match entirely because of LF generation.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Zantmar.5406

Zantmar.5406

cant we just have our 6-0 skills just greyed out so we can at least see the skill recharge?
i get out of death shroud and i still 7 second on consume conditions

and super long channeled skills + lack of stability? this class dosnt make sense
its not THAT tanky
sustain is meh
damage is meh REALLY its not that strong, compared to medi guard which have burst+heal+condi removal
have no means to mitgate damage cept DS
i mean face it 2-4k life blast is cool but people dodge/evade/invuln that stuff every time i try it and i get CCed to death the moment i go in DS

i havent tried condimancer, is it any better? i aint very good at playing condi based builds

Life blast should hit twice and have its damage halfed
If Rocket Charge is only 2 leaps then it should look like 2 leaps
True Shot should be cast on the move

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

convert to LB ranger/medi guard quickly, before you like necromancer too much and don’t want to

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

If you really enjoy Necro, you’re going to have to stick out the learning phase until you start getting used to all of the different situations that feel disadvantageous. If running out to a point solo against a Power Ranger before you have LF gets you killed, then don’t do that. You’re setting yourself up for failure. Yeah we should probably get LF to start, but we don’t, so you’re going to have to deal with it for now (unless you’re playing a game mode that lets you swap Minions in as utilities then swap them out for LF when they die).

If you run Sigil of Energy, you technically get 3 dodges with a weap swap, so perhaps you should try to use that. If you can muster up ~15% LF, using Spectral Armor and then going into DS helps give you a buffer, since your LF will often float. If you are trying to kill said Power Ranger, perhaps double dodge the barrage, then when he goes for the AoE, hit him with Spectral Grasp. That’s LF + Chill + Ranger right next to you.

You’re going to have to try things, as the meta isn’t handing you a build/combo on a silver platter. Or you can go meta and get easy wins if that’s more fun for you.

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Posted by: Zantmar.5406

Zantmar.5406

i’m at the start of my match and i’m running to a point but unlike the ranger i dont have a 1200 leap

this isnt about me going solo against a power ranger the point is at the start of the match its hard for a necro to hold its own

things would not have ended differently vs medi guard or a warrior or engi
basically we HAVE to stick with a teammate to become useful later and the the trade off isnt mega awesome great
and me having to stick with 2v1 in the beginning puts my team in a tactical disadvantage anyway

spectral grasp is buggy and said ranger can stealth which don really help

Life blast should hit twice and have its damage halfed
If Rocket Charge is only 2 leaps then it should look like 2 leaps
True Shot should be cast on the move

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

My favorite is everytime on foe fire my teammates always let me go in first to mid no matter what spec they are playing they always run around the sides and Los forcing me to stand on point as a glass necro with no lifeforce. I’m always like how in the flying kitten of ducks am I ahead of you idiots on a necro with no leaps while the warrior just saunters in 30 seconds later only to be rekt in 2 seconds because his necro is already dead whole he sat behind a pillar Instead of attacking the person I managed to down 3v1.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

This is not just vs LB ranger, I have experiences on Foefire where I cap home and a shatter condi,power thief etc. will harass and possibly kill me, I hate that map with a passion I shouldn’t go mid at start either just death sentence. I adapted my build for those situations but it’s just a bandage, necro is the only class that can hinder Anet’s worship of new players.

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Posted by: Zantmar.5406

Zantmar.5406

never go foe-fire’s hope point, well i learned something new

Life blast should hit twice and have its damage halfed
If Rocket Charge is only 2 leaps then it should look like 2 leaps
True Shot should be cast on the move

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

wait till a warrior pops rampage in your face and cc you to your grave also comes along with monstrous damage and resilience.

those rangers arent as problematic most of the time

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Posted by: Zantmar.5406

Zantmar.5406

you can at least kite rampage to a certain extent and u can also blind it with well/plague safely ish
power ranger just pew pew u from 1500 where u cant really catch them u get close enough then u eat point blank shot and by the time dark path arrives on them (cause so kitten slow) you r already dead

Life blast should hit twice and have its damage halfed
If Rocket Charge is only 2 leaps then it should look like 2 leaps
True Shot should be cast on the move

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

never go foe-fire’s hope point, well i learned something new

Not really I always asked for someone to escort me there just in case it’s a good tactic anyway I do see ops teams that leave 1 far and 3-4 assault home only on Foefire. I’ll be honest necro is the only class where I keep thinking “maybe I should go for beast at start..” I don’t and usually hope someone does just to get an early Feast of Corruption and some starting LF. I’m not one of those necros that use S.Walk just for LF… I used Flesh Wurn for a while it was meh.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

The start of the round isnt even the problem. As +1 you just have to be carefull when adding and as bunker you will easily generate new life force when they come to you.

The problem is when its going bad or when you have to defend home against overwhelming enemies. Having no LF at respawn kitten the Necro over then, its kicking the guy that’s already down.