Guild Wars 2

So today i was roaming with a guild mate in wvw when we came across a mesmer and a rev. I was the first to die in the fight, then my guild mate. After the fight was over, my guild mate called me trash. He asked how do i die so quickly when i am a necromancer with tons of hp. He then called my build trash.

I am running marauder stat armor, zerker weps and trinkets. I use gs/staff and strength runes in my armor. I rune spite, soul reaping, and reaper. As for utilities i run shout heal, rise, flesh wurmand suffer with shout elite.

Please give me suggestions and please let me know if i am as trash as my guild mate says.

Well, the first suggestion is to use this for build presentation: gw2skills.net/editor

Becouse it’s much easier to use than to describe every trait in 3 lines :P

Edit: kitten link formating :S

Aevis.4632:

So today i was roaming with a guild mate in wvw when we came across a mesmer and a rev. I was the first to die in the fight, then my guild mate. After the fight was over, my guild mate called me trash. He asked how do i die so quickly when i am a necromancer with tons of hp. He then called my build trash.

I am running marauder stat armor, zerker weps and trinkets. I use gs/staff and strength runes in my armor. I rune spite, soul reaping, and reaper. As for utilities i run shout heal, rise, flesh wurmand suffer with shout elite.

Please give me suggestions and please let me know if i am as trash as my guild mate says.

necro tend to die in a few secs if they get focus and like the other person say you need to send build editor link to help you more

So its basically what hollts has in his video…

The build is ultra trash for tournament level. GS is a joke to say least. But the lower you go, the worse your enemies are, the more likely it is they cant dodge and kite you properly, the more likely you can away with such a build.

Afaik the average wvwer, is also ultra trash with high chance of zero toughness PVE gear. Add a bit of lag and suddenly you can land your slow skills on most enemys.

This is just to give some perspective. I dont know how close to tournament level your guildmate is, and I also dont think hollts is trash as i enjoy his content and sometimes bump into him in pvp.
TLDR
at high levels GS is unviable trash, at lower-mid levels there isnt much difference between a GS or a regular condi build, what matters there more is how mid-tier your are and how low tier enemy is…

Doesn’t sound like your build is trash. My builds are in my forum signature ( http://asphyxia.tv/builds ) if you want to check them out for comparison – I don’t personally run reaper though.

It sounds like you got focused and bursted, but it also sounds like a player skill issue (no offense, trying to help you out here.) If you start getting bursted, using your elite chill skill or plague form will help you out a lot, so would dodging. You could also go in to shroud to try to stay alive better. It sounds like either you didn’t have time to react or you just didn’t react well enough in the situation to survive.

Until you get the hang out it a little more, you might be good with replacing some of your trinkets with Cavalier or something to that effect since you essentially have no toughness. Marauder or Zerk armor is usually typical for necro.

Pardon for break time, i kinda wanted to write what above guys sad. Since you didnt say what mesmer it was ill try to sumarize both scenarios

A) power shatter mesmer
You got unexpectedly bursted for half your hp. You go into shroud to deal back pressure but mesmer kites you from range. You exit shroud and almost immediately or get interupted and bursted down to zero. Invulnerable stomped.
Your friend maybe ate some rezz cleave and then also lost to mesmer who still had invulnerable cds left

B) condi tank mesmer
An abomination that “regurarly” 1v2s even at tournament level top players so a 1v2 against two average wvw guys is almost expected.
He nukes you with condies, you only got suffer but you may not land many trnasfers with it, your heal get interupted as part of shater spam rotation. You have
a condibomb on you, your melee and mesmer is at range with tons of invulns ready. Your partner maybe tanked shatters with you and you both almost instadie or he dies in a slow sustain battle later anyways.

This is pointing out, why the build is considered trah at top tourny level. You damage is harder to land and requres set up, your defense also has range limit. Meta builds are basicaly overpowered with as much cheese as possible, aka easy to land damage while keeping as much defensive stats and active invulenrabilities as possible.

Player skill is also worth mentioning. If youre full glass zero toughness you absolutely need fast reflexes and kiting knowledge to simply avoid lots of dmg by feeling when to move back and when to go in. Greatsword on top is a clunky weapon which means results will be more “all or nothing” rather than “i still did something”.

The build is not trash, its perfectly fine for average level wvw fights. The same shouts are used for the top tourny builds cy theyre good, just keep the mechanical limit like range and transfering to invulnerable doesnt work in mind.
Condition is a lot easier to play but if you want to use your power gear, maybe add some minmal toughness, switch greatsword for dagger warhorn for more reliable results, and just be more careful.

Pardon again, i completely forgot about the revenant

Condi mesmer is nr1 strongest build atm, and revant is sadly the 2nd most broken thing. It a zerker that can dodge as long as a half tank basically.

Even if it was power mesmer, that means it even easier that you got completely and utterly destroyed. A 100-0 is complety normal.
Your guildmate comment bothers me. Having 10k more hp means nothing in glass vs glass canon, u just die 3x autoatack later. In fact has always been easiest to focus because of bad to no escapes, instadie is part of necro life.
On 10k hp thief you instadie cz your glass and your reflex failed to port too slow. On 30k hp necro you know you will instadie 100-0 up to five seconds before it happens cz you know theres no way to get out of that bad spot/cc chain.

What matters here is dodging the burst coordinating your next cc and burst. Rev and mesmer both have about 15seconds of invuln dodge time before they run out, youll 99% wont last that long.

Skill and everything aside you were unlucky. You bumped into two best builds while being on a mediocre one. Its possible, but you would need to outplay them quite heavily to win.

Well first of all it sounds like you could do with a better guild but yeah go ahead and upload your build onto the build editor wintermute said to use and we’ll have a look.

Yeah, sounds like you need better guildmates. When you are roaming, I’d say it would be a better idea to run Plague Signet instead of Suffer. When you roam, you are more likely to come across other roamers, so a single target condi transfer would serve you better.

Greatsword is a terrible weapon in any environment where you are faced with other players. #2 and #3 skills are horribly slow. The blinding field sounds good on paper, but the reality is that players usually just kite you from range when it’s up. Go with D/Wh as somebody said.

Also not sure about the Flesh Wurm, but I’m not a WvW player, so I don’t know if that’s a thing there. We’d really need to see your traits too, so please try the editor Wintermute provided.

You’re clearly lacking experience when you’re uncertain whether the cause of your death was your build or how you handled yourself. In this case it was most likely a mix of both.

Anyway, the very first thing you need to change is your guild.

Aevis.4632:

He asked how do i die so quickly when i am a necromancer with tons of hp.

That statement is pure ignorance, so if it’s any consolation, your guild “mate” isn’t just bad mannered but probably a bad player in general.

I can’t shadow what others have said enough. I am not the best player by any means but I can tell you having a great build does not make up for other mistakes. 1 patiently thought out and well timed dodge roll is worth your entire HP bar against most of the wvw roamers following the burst builds out there.
Your build is squish to the max but it doesn’t mean it can’t work. Just remember whenever you see something on the youtube it probably isn’t showing everything that happened that day. A solid 15 minute video where you wreck those 1v4s and stuff is put together from hours and hours of gameplay.
If you enjoy playing that build all the more power to you. You will find some fights where you steamroll your enemies. Just know that zerker builds in wvw without having tons of dodges or stealth built in are really risky. Doesn’t mean they can’t be fun but you have to accept getting globaled (or as close to it as this game has). Once you accept this then play your zerker out as much as you want. Your guild might dislike it but just leave that kitten. I was in a guild for a while that had their own meta builds and you weren’t allowed to run with them in wvw unless you were using their own deemed best build for your class. I can respect the want for synergy. But I would ultimately rather play the builds I like and move on.

He’s been gone for two days, time to start with the conspiracy theories. I say his guild found this post and is now holding him underground in the catacombs.

Zetsumei.4975:

He’s been gone for two days, time to start with the conspiracy theories. I say his guild found this post and is now holding him underground in the catacombs.

To the ascalonian catacombs we go!!

You should mix marauder with Valkyrie
But usually, with a necro getting stunlock by chronomancer while being busted by a rev is nothing new at all, your guild mate prolly is trash himself since he does not seem to know how things work.

It’s typical to- target the necro first in a fight, so you shouldn’t feel terrible for dying first.
That said your gear set up looks like you should have been a mid line well build