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Posted by: jhern.6097

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so ive been testing out some builds for power necros and have found myself having tons of trouble against druids and interrupt thieves. getting immobilized… that sucks. i mean what am i supposed to do? my mark to transfer it is on cd and my shouts are on cd… so ok ill just sit here and take it while i slowly cast auto attack on my staff or axe or desperately attack nothing with my gs. then theres the interrupt thieves. just when you think hes out of initiative and you try to cast something hes like nope HEADSHOT! and now youre sure hes out of initiative. NOPE STEAL!… k now youve got nothing DISTRACTING DAGGERS! im just wondering if im the only power necro having trouble with this. keep in mind i dont have much experience with necro to begin with.

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Posted by: Vitali.5039

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Pick “Suffer!” to transfer the Steal’s Skull Fear back to the thief ,
swap to to staff and cast Reaper’s Mark if the thief want to flee, use Chillblains for poison field and go into Reaper’s Shroud for Infusing Terror/Terrify+Soul Spiral poison field combo.

Can i see your build?

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Posted by: Vitali.5039

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100% crit chance in shroud isn’t so great when you are perma cced, pick Foot in the Grave.

Reaper’s Onslaught is cool but your life force will disappear so quickly..
pick Blighter’s Boon for more sustain:
shroud 1=1might,
striking foes under 50% hp gives 2might/1s
striking chilled foes give 1might/1s

I suggest you to drop “You Are All Weaklings!” for Summon Flesh Wurm.
For the second build.. Rune of Chronomancer + Greatsword is love

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Posted by: jhern.6097

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100% crit chance in shroud isn’t so great when you are perma cced, pick Foot in the Grave.

Reaper’s Onslaught is cool but your life force will disappear so quickly..
pick Blighter’s Boon for more sustain:
shroud 1=1might,
striking foes under 50% hp gives 2might/1s
striking chilled foes give 1might/1s

I suggest you to drop “You Are All Weaklings!” for Summon Flesh Wurm.
For the second build.. Rune of Chronomancer + Greatsword is love

tried some of your suggestions. still struggling a bit but doing hella better thanks

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Posted by: Vitali.5039

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Good luck with your pvp experience

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

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Yeah, definitely agree with Blighter’s Boon. Make sure your opponents are chilled, then throw up RS 3 and spam auto attacks and enjoy watching your health climb back up.

If you are having issues with Life Force generation, consider taking Spectral Shroud for your stun break. It grants protection to reduce damage and generates alot of Life Force when you are being focused. Also works while in shroud.

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Posted by: KrHome.1920

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Immob druids are annoying. Best way to deal with is a shout/trooper rune build to get rid of the frequent immobs. Traditional condition management of necros is struggling here by design – you are not doing anything wrong!

For a reaper the best way to deal with power based thieves are proc based power builds like this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Reaper_-_Power_Boonstrip

Why does it work so well?:
Drop a few marks at your feet (=area of denial), do some axe autos. Build up a few might stacks and get the teef slowly to about 60% health – just don’t scare him! :-)

Then enter shroud when he goes melee: Spiteful Spirit, Hydromancy, Air, Chill of Death, Chilling Nova will proc at once at a 100% crit. chance and instakill or make him run away with 5% health left.

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Posted by: jhern.6097

jhern.6097

Immob druids are annoying. Best way to deal with is a shout/trooper rune build to get rid of the frequent immobs. Traditional condition management of necros is struggling here by design – you are not doing anything wrong!

For a reaper the best way to deal with power based thieves are proc based power builds like this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Reaper_-_Power_Boonstrip

Why does it work so well?:
Drop a few marks at your feet (=area of denial), do some axe autos. Build up a few might stacks and get the teef slowly to about 60% health – just don’t scare him! :-)

Then enter shroud when he goes melee: Spiteful Spirit, Hydromancy, Air, Chill of Death, Chilling Nova will proc at once at a 100% crit. chance and instakill or make him run away with 5% health left.

ive used a very similar build to this one. the difference was that i was using all shouts and soldier rune. however the issue im having is specifically with interrupt thieves. just about every since move i make has a long enough cast time for him to react in time to headshot me and proc a pulm. i tried maxing out my sources for stab but ive had little to no luck. i can deal with any other class and every other thief build just fine.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

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YSIM is a great heal despite the condi meta and provides tons of life force. This allows you to pick up onslaught which is a huge damage bump. Blighter’s Boon with a sigil of Strength + Spite + CV is also a great pick, though, as you’ll be healing for over 500 per attack in more sustained encounters.

Generosity+Purity sigils + Suffer and OH dagger 4 are usually enough for me. Typically if you’re that flooded with conditions without running just a pure cleanse build you’re gonna die anyways, and DH slows will nullify any use you have with Shroud (especially if running BB) and macebow warrior is going to overload you with CC you can’t really do anything about, anyways.

Power reaper struggles hard against the heavies atm, as strong as it can be against thief/mesmer/engi/ele. Condi is much easier and much more effective.

As far as the thief matchup goes, you only can deal with them for a brief period during stab pulses from IT. It otherwise won’t be enough and it’ll destroy you regardless. It’s a dumb trait and there’s really no advice to give aside from not attacking which of course gets you killed otherwise.

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

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I seem to only kill thief on power necro duo to everything proc-ing below 50% hp (suffer, chill of death, chilling nova, fire, air, spiteful spirit+ death’s charge random swings and getting stuck in place with immob) which sometimes can surprise them

or Ghastly Claws surprise

otherwise i dont feel like it were my skill that killed the thief when i play power necro.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

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I seem to only kill thief on power necro duo to everything proc-ing below 50% hp (suffer, chill of death, chilling nova, fire, air, spiteful spirit+ death’s charge random swings and getting stuck in place with immob) which sometimes can surprise them

or Ghastly Claws surprise

otherwise i dont feel like it were my skill that killed the thief when i play power necro.

I think I’ve killed more thieves whilst I’m in down state than while I’m standing.

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Posted by: charrboiledeggs.8164

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Here is me killing a condi thief at the beginning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMVrb2-2cI
I have thief killing in quite a few of my vids. Even tho I’m in WvW the same concept pretty much applies. High Hp and a little bit of toughness is whats going to help you out. But you pretty much can’t do anything about the sh*tters that do the attack hide attack hide attack hide attack hide bs. Those are just bad players trying to be good. The one thing necro has to its advantage over every other class is chill and lots of it. Use that to your advantage. Life steal (even tho the naysayers says its worthless) is what my build is based around. And its not worthless if you know what youre doing.

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