well of corruption / corrupt boom?

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Posted by: dualrevolver.5021

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Hey guys

I have a lvl 80 warrior and was getting bored so have made a asura necro, ive noticed though that in the skill slots there is a aoe of well of corruption and a single target attack called corrupt boom, but they seem to do the same thing and take boons and turn them into conditions, which is best?

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Posted by: Elvahaduken.3609

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hard to say, it depends on if your power or a cond user. The thing with the well is that the cond removal is just icing on the cake, from a wvw perspective when i roam solo and i lock someone down with dagger 3 I use WoS and WoC to wellbomb them, it can kill most with dagger 1 spam at the same time. but saying that I do like corrupt boom for the heavy boon users but personally i’d rather have the well since necro’s need some form of burst.

but for a cond necro i’d say take corrupt boon

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

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Corrupt Boon flips all Boons into Conditions instantly, Well of Corruption flips Boons one at a time up to a max of 6 (one per second).

Corrupt Boon does a much better job at boon stripping then Well of Corruption, especially since the patch. Flipping an entire “Save Yourselves” and Epidemicing cant be beat.

Well of Corruption is only for heavy AoE disruption when you can hit the full 5 people and they linger in it for awhile.

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Posted by: dualrevolver.5021

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cheers for the info

I was going for a condition build so that’s been helpful I wandered why the abilities seemed to do the same thing it just don’t describe it very well in game, I like the idea of aoe but corrupt boon seems to be the best bet for me

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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In addition to what Ascii said, corrupt boon is a single shot spell, you can only remove so many boons with it, and it only affects one person. This makes it very strong in small combat, and for “bursting” away boons. However, if you can get 2-3 people to stand in the well for the duration (or if you get the effect of area denial instead), WoC can outstrip CB. It just depends on what you want out of your utility skill.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

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I only prefer Well of Corruption if I’m trying to be based on wells anyways, or if I’m against enemies that do AoE boon application. The dredge are probably the #1 time to switch in well of corruption, since their gong skill can be flipped to change the difficulty of the fight so drastically.

Most other times, corrupt boon is just as good if not better.

Edit: The other time well of corruption could do well is if you’re against someone who keeps reapplying one particular boon, like, say, regeneration. Corrupt boon will turn that into one (short) stack of poison that’s fairly easily cleansed and then they restart the regen train. Well of corruption will keep stacking / reapplying the poison after a cleanse unless they stop getting regeneration, something they may not be able to control if traits are involved.

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Posted by: Pandabro.8743

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Being able to flip boons on a whim gives you such a huge advantage as opposed to taking one random boon a second. Why?

1. Stability, a lot of necros rely on fear to keep themselves alive. Lets say a warrior has 6 boons up and one of them is stability, you need to get him off you NOW. What would you rather have? A well that takes one random boon off or a full strip off of every boon so you can turn around and fear them?

2. Guardians and Elementalists, these two are in almost every single match and they produce tons of boons. Being able to strip everything off a guardian right after he uses his utilities to try to combat the incoming pressure is a huge swing in momentum. Calling for burst at that moment will almost always ensure a downed profession. Where as a 6 second strip the guardian/elemental can probably reapply all the boons you stripped and more in that time.

3. It’s unblockable, I’m not exactly sure how wells work with blocks but I find Corrupt Boon to be one of our most reliable abilities in the game.

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Posted by: Swamurabi.7890

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Short answer: It depends.

Single target WITH lots of boons, corrupt boon.
Otherwise, WoC

Most cases will fall into the Otherwise category.

In WvW, since conditions are stripped quickly, you might find that before you can hit with an Epidemic the target has lost their conditions. I use WoC because I know that if the head of the zerg goes past a point, the tail will pass it also. so I know that the pulses will end up hitting multiple times. I’ll also use it on clumped up downed players so I can get extra loot bags. WoC for me is used on every choke point, attacking/defending keep walls, open field, camps, even doors get WoC for lifesteal combo.

For PvE mobs aren’t smart enough to leave the wells so I typically aggro several mobs, drop wells, drop marks, DS#4, watch them melt.

I don’t do sPvP so I can’t say which is better there.

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

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Several people have already explained the functional differences, so let me put this another way: Depends on what you’re trying to do.

For sheer boon stripping nothing beats Corrupt Boon. It’s instant, targetted, on a much smaller cooldown and immediatly converts all boons.

Well of Corruption is more of a secondary damage dealer for well builds that also happens to convert boons.

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Posted by: Thresher.3049

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Its more of a tactical choice.
If you’re rolling solo/small group and in-between places I find the Corrupt Boon to be a good choice as there’s inevitably a Guard/Ele or some other high-buff runner around that thinks their boons will carry them… rip em up. Because of the high-cyclic turn around on the skill itself, be patient, wait until they’re fully loaded, make sure you’re facing them and the line of sight is good.
Well of Corruption is a line-breaker/area denial weapon to control battle, use it on zergs to force their direction to change, in lord rooms and door-chokes to melt people running around in them. It’s pretty evil.

If you’re astute enough, the two boons to watch for are Stability > Fear and Retaliation > Confusion, both of those really hurt if you’ve got some decent levels of condition damage & the Terror trait.
I’m still somewhat of an advocate of the Focus #5 for ripping up to 3 buffs off people giving you hassle, getting rid of common things like Might, Fury, Protection, Haste and so forth is a good equaliser for Necro’s.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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What ASCII said – plus, watch the traits for CD reduction on either corruption or wells. Some builds will only allow one option. Master of Corruption is in Curses and Ritual Mastery is in Blood Magic.

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Oops, I meant Ascii. (Sorry, Ascii.)

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