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Posted by: The Demonic Spirit.3157

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After the nerf for both lightening and march drakes , in addition to their normal skills , Can you give me the total F2 damage ( for all the 5 pulses (2x as it bounces twice ) ?
Are the drakes still the strongest AOE pets ( PvE ) ?

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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After the nerf for both lightening and march drakes , in addition to their normal skills , Can you give me the total F2 damage ( for all the 5 pulses (2x as it bounces twice ) ?
Are the drakes still the strongest AOE pets ( PvE ) ?

AoE, yes.

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Posted by: The Demonic Spirit.3157

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After the nerf for both lightening and march drakes , in addition to their normal skills , Can you give me the total F2 damage ( for all the 5 pulses (2x as it bounces twice ) ?
Are the drakes still the strongest AOE pets ( PvE ) ?

AoE, yes.

I want a comparison between their F2 skills , what is the strongest 2 drakes ( confusion and chill don’t count as I’m talking about PvE ) ?

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Lightning obviously.

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Posted by: Indoles.1467

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Assuming the 17% damage reduction on river drake is accurate, an unbuffed lightning breath should do around 9.9k direct damage to 3 targets. If I remember correctly (I deleted the footage I had), the marsh drake did around 9.6k total damage with both direct damage and poison from the F2 of 3 targets (something around 5.Xk direct, 4.Yk poison). So marsh drake looks better than before, but still will do less damage overall even if you manage to maintain full poison duration. It could see more use in PvP where poison has some value.

Note: I recorded an unbuffed River Drake F2 doing 11,915 damage to three targets with lightning breath pre-patch.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Reef Drake does the most damage (assuming the mobs are agroed on the drake and thus attacking), then river drake (not far behind), then fire, then swamp (does more than fire if it bounces back and forth between 2 targets), then chill.

Drakes dominate in AoE still, you know, because their our only pets with real AoE

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Posted by: Manekk.6981

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I prefered the marsh drake even before the nerf on lightning, it wasn’t too far behind in damage before patch either it’s probably more now but it’s also alot easier to hit with I find, much longer range on the F2 skill plus it activates slightly faster I feel.

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Posted by: ilr.9675

ilr.9675

Reef drake are OP …. the ones in Southsun I mean. One of them ticked off 10 stacks of whatever the hell “Used Retreat” means for almost 2k ea. on me… instantly killed my Guardian. Wonder if there’s any exploits to make the Pet ones do that to targets? 0_o

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

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Real problem is why the heck drakes are the only pet that their normal attack can hit 3 and skills can hit 5? (Other than jellyfish)
All pets normal attack should hit 3!! (Otherwise many of those pets really doesn’t need to exist in the first place.)

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Posted by: The Demonic Spirit.3157

The Demonic Spirit.3157

Real problem is why the heck drakes are the only pet that their normal attack can hit 3 and skills can hit 5? (Other than jellyfish)
All pets normal attack should hit 3!! (Otherwise many of those pets really doesn’t need to exist in the first place.)

I agree with you as Drakes are the only ones that have AOE attacks ( all their skills )

Reef drake are OP …. the ones in Southsun I mean. One of them ticked off 10 stacks of whatever the hell “Used Retreat” means for almost 2k ea. on me… instantly killed my Guardian. Wonder if there’s any exploits to make the Pet ones do that to targets? 0_o

Reef Drake does the most damage (assuming the mobs are agroed on the drake and thus attacking), then river drake (not far behind), then fire, then swamp (does more than fire if it bounces back and forth between 2 targets), then chill.

It’s the weakest drake if you are smart
Just don’t use any skill and you will be fine , too weak for PvE as most mobs hit very slowly.

I prefered the marsh drake even before the nerf on lightning, it wasn’t too far behind in damage before patch either it’s probably more now but it’s also alot easier to hit with I find, much longer range on the F2 skill plus it activates slightly faster I feel.

I agree , for me River and marsh are the best as their hits bounces , salamander’s weakness is his cone attack.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

If you use it on a fast attacking mob (like those risen that sprint at you) it will devastate them due to confusion doing double damage in PvE. shrugs i’m ok with it not doing as much damage though if “good” players are going to just stand there and take it for ~5 seconds xD

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Posted by: hyjaxxx.1584

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after the patch im liking the fire drake as my DOC Drake of Choice. the Direct damage seems to hit almost as hard as the lightning breath..then the burn is a lil extra.

I have no data to support this. so i could be wrong..but ..I like it thus far.

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Posted by: Quarktastic.1027

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I preferred the marsh drake because its F2 was the easiest to land and had the largest AoE range. Unfortunately, now that it can no longer fire behind the drake, it will be just as impossible to land on moving targets as the other drakes’ F2 skills.

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Posted by: bezim bezec.8635

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The drakes weren’t a viable option before the nerf. They were only good fo their blast finisher and if the enemy was stupid enough to soak up the F2 damage…

The F2 abilities on the drakes is high dps but it doesn’t ever hit. All in all the drakes aren’t particularly a good choice unless you’re a bunker ranger with the requirements of blast finishers for healing bursts. But I wouldn’t reccomend that personally because their regular dps is too low, they’re too tanky and you’re far better off going with 1 bird and a jag.

Drakes were nerfed and now they are even less worth the slot.

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Posted by: Manekk.6981

Manekk.6981

The drakes weren’t a viable option before the nerf. They were only good fo their blast finisher and if the enemy was stupid enough to soak up the F2 damage…

The F2 abilities on the drakes is high dps but it doesn’t ever hit. All in all the drakes aren’t particularly a good choice unless you’re a bunker ranger with the requirements of blast finishers for healing bursts. But I wouldn’t reccomend that personally because their regular dps is too low, they’re too tanky and you’re far better off going with 1 bird and a jag.

Drakes were nerfed and now they are even less worth the slot.

Not entirely true, they where good for their aoe and in that department they still are kings because no other pets really have that, not everything is about pvp but even considering that they did just as much damage as a bird probably more plus they had a big burst in their tailswipe even if it was nearly impossible to land it, the reason they were better than birds in my opinion is because the birds lose a truckload of their potential by flipping and flooping all over the place all the freaking time instead of attacking your target the F2 burst was nice but i want my pets to do damage the rest of the time aswell.

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Posted by: Tricare.2946

Tricare.2946

I love the drakes, best time, imo, to use their f2 is in a 1v2+ fight and you down someone, hit’s the person downed and the person trying to revive.