A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

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Posted by: Cristobal.8640

Cristobal.8640

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fjMq0waNLmsQ1aADhq9J0CYFAuj3X4qLYVD-TpRFwAAeAARLDw+CAg4gAo4IAka/BA
3085 Armor (Signet of stone)
18,182 Health
1407 Condi damage
40% Crit Chance (60% with fury)

Survival of the fittest provides “perma” fury and cleanses, survival skills are on a short cooldown, entangle is quite good with survival of the fittest, cooldown trait and krait runes. Cleanses from SotF combined with healing spring are enough to cleanse a burst of condies, sigil of generosity is extremely good and works both as defense and offense.
+45% Bleed duration, and on the best possible scenario, shortbow is stacking 4 bleeds per hit.

The build stacks bleeds really fast, and has the potential for bursting more than once. I like torch so far, 5 works great on points, against downed/immobilized, as a defense against melee, etc, also fire field and you have a lot of projectile finishers. Dagger might be better for defense, but I found the build survivable enough (coming from burst ele here)

I have been playing ranger for a couple of days, so please critique this build and help me make it better

EDIT: Build must be played with slingshot, dont try it without and complain.
EDIT2: After some testing, I find the build to be pretty solid. Lack of stability looks to be a problem sometimes, securing stomps is tough and heavy cc scenarios can kitten me. I´m still playing pretty bad tho, overdoing the survival skills offense when I dont need it to end dying to condies I couldve cleansed. I wonder if getting a blinding bird would be worth it to secure stomps, instead of spider wich might kitten your poison damage… I would probably swap signet of stone for the stability signet even tho its a condi build if I get good enough to not need stone.
EDIT3: I found that replacing keen edge with empathic bond makes the build better and allows you to practically hardcounter condi specs, while also helping against power classes and in team fights.

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A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

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Posted by: Zetus.1476

Zetus.1476

The build looks pretty solid. I’ll have to give it a go. Personally I find the lack of stability to be a bit of a warning sign when getting paired up with a hammer warrior/necro/engie. An untraited Signet of Stone might have too long of a cooldown to consider countering a cc paired burst consistently. As for the build being a counter to condie specs, I think the vast amount of survival skills plugged into the build puts it in a good place, but it has less dodges and mobility to escape sticky situations.

A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

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Posted by: Cristobal.8640

Cristobal.8640

I changed keen edge for a grandmaster wilderness survival trait. Keen edge is just a gimmick that gets cleansed and has a long cooldown. Empathic bond on top of SotF truly makes it a counter to condi builds, bark skin and poison master are good on their own ways too. I like how having 30 WS allows me to cherry pick between those 3 great traits.

Stability and lack of vigor are its weak points so far (That half vigor trait is nice I guess)

Thank you for your imput

A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Do you like the SB? I think you might be better off with the typical a/d + s/t setup (or maybe warhorn for the blast.) More mobility, defense, and probably more condi damage since SB is pretty difficulty to get the bleed with. SB also has the same range as axe.

I was going to say it doesn’t look like you have consistent condi cleanse, but I see you already edited your post about that.

I would also use a celestial amulet to make use of that sweet sweet might stacking. That would also play well with RaO since you wanted to change that anyway.

A condi build for tpvp, what do you think?

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Posted by: Cristobal.8640

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I think celestial would be way better with a/d + s/t, wich sounds an interesting build.

I actually really like the SB, for starters, it maintains 5-8 stacks of bleed with this build when hitting someone from the front. I found its pretty easy to position yourself properly in pvp to take advantage of this weapon, it has a very fast cripple and an evade that gives swiftness, the interrupt is great and fast too, and poison volley is great, it can burst that sharpening stone without axe, also procing multiple bleeds on crit per trait, it has sick attack speed and when hitting someone from the “sides” it can stack 20+ bleeds very very fast. Also quickness with shortbow

As a matter of fact, I stay in sb most of the time, switching to axe mostly to burst. I dont axe AA unless on downed people/turrets etc for the might.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Fair enough. Many people don’t like the SB so I figured I’d toss it out there.

SB still does a substantial amount of physical damage due to the attack speed, so it might be worth trying a couple games with your setup with celestial.

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Posted by: Cristobal.8640

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I will, and I will change sigil of generosity for sigil of strength. It gives might for 13sec on critical hit with a 1s cooldown, I tested it with shortbow on the golems and it procs every second with fury on, and almost every second with no fury. Certainly way better than battle sigil, wich is already kinda op. Pew pew pew might might might bleed bleed bleed <3

This feels promising.

EDIT: Tried it on the golems, might upkeep with the sigil is significantly lower on celestial compared to rabids, thou its only a 10% crit chance decrease. I guess a breaking point must be achieved for the sigil to begin proccing reliably every second and stacking might like crazy.

Perception sigil on the axe set, that should take care of it.

Also replaced evasive purity with strength of spirit for the celestial build.

EDIT2: I tried Rampager’s amulet on the golem, maintains 10 stacks of might from the sigil alone with no fury. Might be on to something. Axe gets 25.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fjMq0waNLmsQ1aADhq9J0ClArAwdREvXdBraA-TZRFwAEuIAAeAAIOCAp2fwaZAA

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

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Posted by: Eggyokeo.9705

Eggyokeo.9705

i love playing these SotF/krait rune/rabid type builds they are very fun in pvp and wvw roaming, this is my take on it.