Guild Wars 2

felixdacat.3804:

That’s what Anet seems to be playing with us rangers. Balance patch after balance patch, rangers are an afterthought. Hell, the devs couldn’t even find the trait they were looking for yesterday. It’s like they’re challenging us to keep playing this class even though it is arguably the weakest in the game. That, or reroll another character or reroll another MMO. Well, you know what Anet? I always root for the underdog… I’m even a Cubs fan. Your game of chicken won’t work on me. I play this class not because it’s the best overall class, or offers the most group support, or has the highest DPS, or because it has a “cool” class mechanic, etc. I play this class because in every RPG I’ve ever played, I most enjoy the medium armor-wearing, bow-slinging, nature-oriented class. You’re not gonna make me main a warrior (had one at 80… also have a thief, mesmer and ele at 80) because, simply, I don’t want to.

Ranger is my class. I’ve survived your game of chicken for a year and now it’s time to reap a reward or two. Today’s patch was certainly not it. Seriously take a long look at this class – play it for a while, really read what rangers are saying – and give us some balance with the other classes. Take a real good look at the class mechanic and see where our frustration comes from. Protection while I roll and more hp doesn’t mean better pets, come on, either improve the AI or let us perma stow the pets. Give us more counter play than a 4-second reveal that we have to use before target stealths. Give us more group support, give us the better numbers on our weapons we were led to believe we’d see today, give us traits that make sense in our trait tree. The ranger community has been asking for these things for a long time now and you’ve yet to deliver. You’re playing chicken with us that truly want to love this class. Well I’m not flinching, Anet. I will log on today, play my Ranger in WvW, and wait – just like the rest of us have for over a year.

+1

Ranger for life!!!

But I´m extremly disappointed

I dunno about you…. but I want us (BP) to actually stand a real chance @ this Seasonal.

So I’m not going to be playing my Ranger when we’re coordinating our Skill Groups.
I dunno what Esper’s policy on it is, but I can tell you that we don’t need a policy on it in Lost… We’ll be running the best tools for the job, all of the time. I’m sure even most of our Pubbers following DTC will also make the right choice so we have a shot at top silver.

The only time we should see any rangers… is when we need someone to recap ruins, or run emergency supply to hills/bay (which requires sword/great sword lunges… NOT BOWS and BEARS)

Anyone wanting to play ranger, should go caboose on Monkies train

+1 I also play a ranger in all games, but I’m very sad that because Annette costing us even reading the forum

+1, I’ve been a ranger in the GW franchise for over 8 years, and I want to see the attention this class deserves.

It’s really not very encouraging that all they talk about when they discussed rangers for the last month was the fluffy flavor bit about pets sniffing out thieves. It was clever the first time someone said it, but it’s really not something to be that proud of.

OP

Wow!’

I totally like your thread; ‘you hit all notes beautifuly and wonderfuly’

Very well constructive and on-point with state of the ranger class

Your choice of topic, words, subjections and objections are Splendid.

(it would take me a million years to write something like this without outburst of anger)

You Totally derserve…

+10

Good luck on the wait, I expect some other useless changes by dec – In the mean time I will be throwing my energies elsewhere, like I have been for a while.

rip rangers lmfa0 we’re a joke guys

You sir, deserve an Internet.

+The Internet

+1. Very well said.

kudos to you sir…

I also always play the nature/pet/bow class in every mmo I have played… (if possible)
But for me that last patch did it actually.. I will leave my guild (well I am guildleader of a small/medium guild, so I kinda sign off my duties) and look for another game…

But more power to you and players like you… fight the good fight and have fun…

I think what annoyed me more than anything was how the focus of this patch was supposedly to increase the group utility of various classes. The Ranger class is probably the least useful group oriented class in this game and we received no real bonus whatsoever?

We got pet improvements for group utility but if you compare the utility the pets provide against how other classes provide the same thing I assure you they aren’t on a 40 second cooldown with a 3 second cast time and a 10 second duration.

ANet has proven patch after patch, month after month, that they haven’t a clue what they want to do with this class. It has no direction and no real worth whatsoever. At this point I think we need ANet to come around and tell us what they want this class to do so we can at least focus our feedback on that. Us wishing this class was something that clearly ANet doesn’t want it to be has clearly been a complete waste of time.

Either ANet doesn’t know what they want to do with this class or they simply don’t care about this class. This forum has put forth thousands upon thousands of ideas, suggestions, and complaints and there is absolutely ZERO proof ANet has read any of it.

After a year of nothing going on how can we honestly think anything but ANet simply doesn’t care?

Seeing Poliswag very conveniently deleted his last post about us all “whining” :P, I will place it here as it is current to what people are saying about rangers.

Nobody is being a crusader, it’s called getting what’s right for your money’s worth. I and everyone else paid money to pay into a game that should offer exactly the same chances of success no matter what you roll.
I made a point on that because just because something is not right where a portion of the gaming community are not being heard, does that make that right not to speak up on something you have invested and not happy about ?

The point is having a fairer class system, just now rangers don’t have anything to bridge the power and burst gap as yet to compete, nor does it have a trick up its sleeve that’s viable to make it a danger. If you don’t want that, that’s your issue but leave others to talk about it and discuss what issues they have in these areas.

There are several pets on hand, each should at least do something. If this is not the case why are there choices? If half don’t work or are of no use what is the point of them. CC ranged pets granted do so much but only effectible in PVE, otherwise they do miss a lot of the time.
In the likes of WVW they are useless to successfully hit anything unless immobilised and even then there is nothing ranger has to produce immobilisation with enough duration to do that .
As for Guardians and Warriors are not an issue, wrong again. Rangers are immediately immobilised with Guardians and often 3 quarters of life pool taken away in one hit, conditions are wiped very easily also by them
Mesmers are hard to kill granted due to the phantasms they produce to doppelgang them, but that would be easily sorted with a re-worked axe to provide far more base damage than it should.
The quicker Anet realize not all rangers are Longbows and Bears the better it will be.

I will keep my ranger where he thrives, open world PVE. I will stick with my mesmer or guardian for dungeons or WWW. Business as usual in other words, this patch didn’t change a thing for me.

Sadly enough.

Malin.2490:

I will keep my ranger where he thrives, open world PVE. I will stick with my mesmer or guardian for dungeons or WWW. Business as usual in other words, this patch didn’t change a thing for me.

Sadly enough.

See, that’s just thing. This was supposed to be a balance patch that, you know, balances things out. Except it didn’t – not for us. The following are direct quotes from commanders from the last couple of months in regard to party composition:
“rangers- I prefer no rangers”
“Rangers are useless imo, outclassed still”
“Rangers warhorn is incredible. Also… their improved range to knockback… omg”
“That roaming regen ranger… Not great in large group settings imo, but god kitten is it killer in duels.”

These are things that we’ve all known for the longest time – rangers are strong in a specific setting, and that setting is pretty much very small scale fights. And nothing has changed. No more group utility skills than the one nice water field and one nice blast finisher. Not one update in this patch has changed a single thing to make commanders want a ranger in their WvW group.

Atherakhia and mzt, +1 to both of your posts. Where is all the utility we heard so much about? Other classes got some, for sure. Shortening a cooldown on a still-usless pet F2 skill by 5 seconds? Ha. Giving a pet that no one uses a 1k AOE heal? Hey, thanks Anet! Like mzt said, we don’t have that trick up our sleeve to make us wanted. We’ve waited a year for that trick, that one thing that makes people say, “we need a ranger”. Anet has dangled carrots in front of us with patch after patch, and we keep biting. I’ll keep biting at that carrot and hope that one day I actually get a taste.

Please, not trolling or anything, read some of my posts, for as long as you are complaining, i’ve been trying to tell people one simple thing:

Play the class you have in front of you, as it is. That’s the challenge. Shortcomings, even though subjective (oh that’s too big, next guy says: hey not big enough) sure there are some.

Instead you keep banging your head against something you wish it was and at the same time you have no control over changing it.

As i see it you have two choices: type endlessly to grab dev’s or the holyghost attention in some dumb-going-no-where-miss-lead prayer to Revamp an entire concept of ideas;
or use those same two hands to discuss ways of how YOU can change your playstyle to overcome what’s been frustrating you.

Guess what change is more worthwhile.

Now, should i copy paste this text to every whinning thread out there?

And this part is to kitten some of you off: I take pride of keeping my pet alive nearly every pve fight; spirits are great!; sword auto-attack chain is terrific, because i focused in improving…. wait for it… MYSELF!

Over and out really. There’s a saying in my native language which literrally translated means:
“More blind are those that do not wish to see.”

Ariete.6509:

pve fight

I just summed up your entire argument. And I have made myself very clear that this class is in unbalanced in comparison to most other classes when it comes to WvW. The PvE content in this game, for the most part, is not challenging enough to warrant a revamp of anything in this class. I can beat my face against my keyboard and faceroll most PvE content. I play primarily WvW, which has forced my playstyle to evolve, so take your l2p argument somewhere else. You can’t come in here and tell me with a straight face that this class is balanced with the others in that arena. It simply isn’t and ranger repeatedly gets left behind when other classes get more utility or synergy or buffs or anything actually useful.

Again, that’s your view. I believe it’s even a general concensous that the ranger is very much on par in spvp and i do hear more grief on the PVPEish-WvW. PVE fight was one of my bullet points:
<And this part is to kitten some of you off: I take pride of keeping my pet alive nearly every pve fight; spirits are great EDIT: The Spirits unbound build is a superior PVP build, makes targetting you difficult to target with the added buffs and active effects of them!; sword auto-attack chain is terrific EDIT: you stick to players like wetnoodle, because i focused in improving…. wait for it… MYSELF!>

Still the idea is more than simply reduced to L2play, it’s not. It’s a change in attitude.

Still i’ll step deeper into your muddy terrain, yes! Our traps’ combofields, our warhorn buff, our pet buffs, our crowd control, our mobility, our condition removal tools, our 1200+ range, all that is pale in comparison to the neighboors greener grass, all that and here is the million achievement points question:

What are YOU going to do about it?

A) keep writting your demands in a form of santa’s wish list;

B) i don’t know… plenty, start by typing “wvw ranger” on youtube… youtube… seriously then maybe advance to people-committed trully helpfull well thought guides, and let the frickin’ grundge wash away, i bet you’ll be having more fun.

Or just reroll, now just stop messing with the way my favourite profession in GW2 works so it can adjust to your whims.

But i guess nothing there’s nothing one can do when trapped on one’s own state of mind.

Good luck and most of all have fun.

I would bother saying something but I wont. You try to help people and all they say is “L2Play”. ranger issues are beyond LTP . Again for the 50 millionth time, not all of us PVP. Everything is OP in PVP as the people that whine most about OP is the PVPers and it is them that has left the ranger in the sorry state it is now. Get into WVW, have your kitten handed to you by 2 guardians and a Mesmer and see where most people are coming from.