Guild Wars 2

Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
Crystlviper

If you want a condition build you might want to replace ferocity with something that will benefit you more, like toughness or vitality. Bleeding damage is affected by condition damage so power is useless.

TomoHawkx.8139:

If you want a condition build you might want to replace ferocity with something that will benefit you more, like toughness or vitality. Bleeding damage is affected by condition damage so power is useless.

Last I checked any weapon that has a condition damage on it also has regular damage. So power isn’t useless. Neither is precision. What it comes down to is how offensive you want to go compared to survivabilty.

Thank you TomoHawkx for your input. As I am currently level 63 and just purchased the entire cultural T2 armor set as well as the T2 shortbow. I just looked this gear over and it comes preloaded with power, but I can deal with that.

crystlviper.8523:

Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
Crystlviper

The shortbow’s physical damage hits like a wet noodle even on zerker gear, it’s a condition weapon. You’ll want rabid gear with a sigil of earth and make sure you spec for sharpened edges and keen edge. The more crits you land the more bleed stacks you put on a target.

I often end up swapping things around, but this is the basic make-up of what I use for WvW roaming. 25 stacks of bleed can be achieved in about 4-7 seconds with a consistent 10-12 bleeds stacks on your target provided they notice you and they have heavy condition removal. It’s not the perfect build and you can be easily ganked by thiefs but it’s easy to use.

On an off-note, the traited sharpening stone is also affected by survival skill cd trait even if the website doesn’t show it.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vMAQNAV3fnMqQNL2KIGsAVLGAWKEMvmCOpk9wwDT8irSrC-zECBYhERz0CRmqAj8OIpoFRjtaqIasqbY6YER1kC4RlVA-w

crystlviper.8523:

Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
Crystlviper

If you’re going for condi damage i’d say drop the Ferocity and just aim for a Rampager stat set up (Precision > Power = Condi damage), it’ll give your attacks a lot of bite with the initial hit, as well as making your condo’s pretty nasty.

However, be careful with it, because unlike most condi stat sets it leaves you very squishy and vulnerable to damage (both direct and condi), but it does make your direct damage something to be feared.

Also, the only damage that boosts your conditions is condition damage, HOWEVER, precision is useful for many condi builds because you can use it to proc conditions through traits such as Sharpened Edges and sigils such as Sigil of Earth.

MuchWaffle.2579:

crystlviper.8523:

Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
Crystlviper

The shortbow’s physical damage hits like a wet noodle even on zerker gear, it’s a condition weapon. You’ll want rabid gear with a sigil of earth and make sure you spec for sharpened edges and keen edge. The more crits you land the more bleed stacks you put on a target.

I often end up swapping things around, but this is the basic make-up of what I use for WvW roaming. 25 stacks of bleed can be achieved in about 4-7 seconds with a consistent 10-12 bleeds stacks on your target provided they notice you and they have heavy condition removal. It’s not the perfect build and you can be easily ganked by thiefs but it’s easy to use.

On an off-note, the traited sharpening stone is also affected by survival skill cd trait even if the website doesn’t show it.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vMAQNAV3fnMqQNL2KIGsAVLGAWKEMvmCOpk9wwDT8irSrC-zECBYhERz0CRmqAj8OIpoFRjtaqIasqbY6YER1kC4RlVA-w

SB auto attacks don’t hit like a wet noodle, are you kidding me? There’s a reason people despise our SB, and it’s because it pumps out so much damage on the auto attack that it’s extremely difficult to actually do anything about it.

FYI: Just because the damage number isn’t big doesn’t mean the DPS isn’t massive.

Durzlla.6295:

crystlviper.8523:

Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
Crystlviper

If you’re going for condi damage i’d say drop the Ferocity and just aim for a Rampager stat set up (Precision > Power = Condi damage), it’ll give your attacks a lot of bite with the initial hit, as well as making your condo’s pretty nasty.

However, be careful with it, because unlike most condi stat sets it leaves you very squishy and vulnerable to damage (both direct and condi), but it does make your direct damage something to be feared.

Also, the only damage that boosts your conditions is condition damage, HOWEVER, precision is useful for many condi builds because you can use it to proc conditions through traits such as Sharpened Edges and sigils such as Sigil of Earth.

In addition to that: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQFAFjEq0yaHLUtGIRoafCbQvyKAc/DpQUfxKrUB-TJRFwAEuAAAeAAA3fwaZAA

SB probably one of my fav weapon for Ranger, you can go hybrid, support, and burst with it because of its fast firing rate. On hit is what I think of SB or burst if you pair it up with your pet and some quickening zephyr with the right sigil. Support through Skirmishing tree line, you might want to look into if you’re interested in your pet being the main damage, SB can support that.

Back to the build, this gives you:

1. Condi cleanse per utilities use. (Sharpening stone; Quickening Zephyr other option)
2. 50% damage reduction at 25% health on a 21k HP, enough to buy you time to pull clutch plays on tight spots.
3. Versatile build. You can put in sun spirit in there for on hit proc or stone spirit.
4. Or go Condi poison master for more condi.

I’m an all or nothing guy. Either build for condis or build for power. Don’t try and do both imo.

Shortbow makes an excellent power weapon though. Only true way to build a kiting Ranger imo.

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m an all or nothing guy. Either build for condis or build for power. Don’t try and do both imo.

Shortbow makes an excellent power weapon though. Only true way to build a kiting Ranger imo.

I mostly agree with you. With SB though, Rampager gear will out damage Dire gear ….and when you think about it, if you do like all or nothing, Rampager is that. Complete damage. Also, in Regards to SB. Unless you are behind someone, then the majority of your damage is direct damage. It increases with power and increases with precision to help direct damage and precision procs.

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m an all or nothing guy. Either build for condis or build for power. Don’t try and do both imo.

Shortbow makes an excellent power weapon though. Only true way to build a kiting Ranger imo.

Since you’re taking ShortBow, its pretty likely you’ll put at least 20pts into Skirmishing line which provides crit chance and crit damage. Not utilizing the crit damage seems like a waste so you want to optimize your crits to proc a high direct crit damage and conditions. At least thats the theory behind it. Down below, I have done a percentage difference between rabid and celestial, but the percentages aren’t a very good indicator of total dps lose/increase.

In PvP, the percentage of condition damage you lose from switching from rabid to celestial is around 20%. The direct damage you gain from switching from rabid to celestial is around 90%.

Percentage of condition damage you lose switching from rabid/carrion to celestial:
21% Bleed
18% Burning
22% Poison

Keep the rampager gear, cultural armor isn’t exactly cheap. Luckily for you shortbow could be very much of use to you. If you run a hybrid stat build you will benefit from Might a lot. And with sigil of strength you can keep 10 stacks of might on you with a shortbow. What build/traits to use doesn’t matter much while you are leveling, but I would play around with food that gives might on crit, companion’s might and fortifying bond. See how you like that type of gameplay. I think a rampager ranger buffing itself with might and its pet as well can be good, but you will be made of paper mostly. Ghost pepper poppers are you kind of food when you hit 80, with might or chill (no internal cooldown!!!!!!) on crit.