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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Just as for my engineer solo im now looking for a good ranger build to solo lupicus.
SI will need:

-small amounts of swiftness

-aoe damage for phase 1, not really interested in bothering with locusts in phase 2

-(if possible permanent) vigor

-one evade to get out of bubbles (stability/invuln) would be great.

-maximum damage possible for rangers

-a pet that hopefully will stay passive all time and not draw any aggro (will letting it die work?)

-direct heal, nothing like troll thingy

Thanks for advice!

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Posted by: Bast Bow.2958

Bast Bow.2958

few answers for you

Just as for my engineer solo im now looking for a good ranger build to solo lupicus.
SI will need:

-small amounts of swiftness >>> 0/10/0/0/0 Adept trait Primal Reflexes for more vigor AND swiftness because of small adept trait.

-aoe damage for phase 1, not really interested in bothering with locusts in phase 2 >>> Longbow Barrage (does more dmg with full distance, not standing next to Lupi)

-(if possible permanent) vigor >>> 0/0/10/0/0 Adept trait Vigorous Renewal for heal as one OR Wilderess Knowlegde for lightning reflexes. Should work both, but don’t know which one would be better.

-one evade to get out of bubbles (stability/invuln) would be great. >>> 30/0/0/0/0 Grandmaster traits signet of the beastmaster 6 secs of invulnerable with signet of stone + lightning reflexes

-maximum damage possible for rangers >>> 30/0/0/0/0

-a pet that hopefully will stay passive all time and not draw any aggro (will letting it die work?) >>> Set it on passive

-direct heal, nothing like troll thingy >>> heal as one

Thanks for advice!

All together this makes: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQFAziI1FWW2Bi1DAAgB1KoJ2D+DAAA

Start from there. You could drop longbow for other weapons and choose traps for AOE dmg. Then you’ll need to crank wilderness survival up with traits that go along with traps, you’ll get that.

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Posted by: Lert.6287

Lert.6287

I would consider going for 5 BM for that extra 2sec of quickness every 20sec. That’s pretty decent.

OP, instead killing your own pet, you can choose pet for boons (like moa for fury or fern for regen) and let it be on guard mode.
For phase 1 greatsword might be good. It will hit multiple targets. Not sure how Axe/Axe would work in this matter.
While you need to deal quite high amount of damage, I’d consider going for Troll Unguent instead of Heal as One. Healing per second is tad better with the first one and you don’t have to use healing skill so often which won’t stop your dps that much.
For swiftness or speed boost you’ve got few options. Either you go for signet (which would be waste in this matter – there are skills more helpful that it) or for pet birds (10sec of swiftness per swap). And ofc elite RaO, but that’s only 20sec every 2 min.
There’s as well Warhorn, but that could work in phase 2 due being single target.

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Posted by: jewishjoyride.4693

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Good luck to you sir!

You might try 30,0,20,0,20.

30 points in marksmanship will net you signet of the beastmaster. This way when you activate signet of stone you are invulnerable, and when you activate signet of the wild you gain 8 seconds of stability.

For vigor, 20 points in bm gets you vigorous training. 5 sec of vigor every pet swap when using birds or moas. Raven f2 is a single target blind on an 18 sec cd which could be useful. Moas have an aoe burst heal, though not attached to f2 so might not pop when you want it.

Vigorous renewal in wilderness survival really works best with healing spring. Each pulse of healing spring will also pulse vigor for 15 sec total.

Lightning reflexes is a stun break and another 10 sec of vigor.

GS brings some useful skills for you. I could see the evade on auto attack chain helping a lot in phase 1 for the locusts. The cleave will help bring them down as well, though not quickly. The block is very nice as well. The counter attack is only started if lupicus uses a melee attack, so you have a 3 second block to help with his projectile attacks, as well as mitigate almost the entire time spent in the bubble, should you get trapped.

Also, while your pet can’t dodge the grub spawn in phase 1, you can swap pets to completely negate it. Just wait til your pet actually has the “plague” swirling around it, then swap.

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Posted by: rodadams.5963

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Sounds like you want to go:
Greatsword/Sword+Warhorn.

Greatsword:
- 2nd Highest DPS, Cleaves, 1200 range gap closer, and a block.
Sword:
- Highest DPS, Cleaves, two evades.
Warhorn:
- Fury, Might, Swiftness, DoT attack.

In a battle like this, pet taking aggro or not will be predictable, and pet can be put on avoid. Pets can easily account for 40%+ of the total DPS, so don’t instantly dismiss it.

Vigor basically means Lightning Reflexes, whieh also give you an evade and stun break. Also, 5pts in Wilderness gives you perma half-speed vigor. (7.5s recharge per dodge)

For max DPS, look for the threads talking about Rangers out-DPSing Warriors for tips.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Did it with GS+Axe/Horn.
Sword is unusable because of autoattacks making unable to move/dodge.
GS Autoattack sucks horrible too though because #3 interrupts dodges.
And i needed about 10 minutes to solo phase 1. I feel very, very sorry for you rangers.
When i wasn’t letting my pet die (well, impossible it suicided on even only one locust) locusts and GL would have kittened me up by air-hitting or simply bubbling all over me.

I’ve been using 30/15/15/x/x, dont remember.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

If i had to solo lupi, I’d play a more BM oriented build. Full damage on Ranger ain’t the best way, because your pet is your best weapon. Meaning that if you take care of your weapon (pet) you’ll most likely make it. In fact when I’m going in Arah in groupe, we just leave lupi P1 to my cat and it work perfectly.

Phase 1 : leave lupi to a cat (Ideally jaguar) and kit swarm with axe. Jaguar get rid of swarm with F2 and you just have to focus on dodging worm.

Phase 2 : This ain’t an easy phase but If i recall properlly, If you just have to be aware of massive aoe and his right hand deadly punch. So OH axe could help for aoe and switching pet/stone signet could do to keep your pet alive. Just dodge deadly punch.

Phase 3 : Maybe sword MH for quick retreat or short bow and range pet for kitting… That’s the hardest phase.

But I still think you should go on a tankier build and leave damage to your pet.

PS.: Cat’s damage are insane. On a BM Build they do way more than a mere 40% of your damage. I just think that GS won’t make it for this fight.

This could do the trick :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnX8fjIVJ2FWWWs2Bi2DOZ+zzKco3jYp+2nyHKhUsA-jQyAIuASBApPA5xioxWERroERjKIM1KRUtToIa1CB8YNA-e

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

When Lupicus smashes a pet for 25k Health and applies 3 Stacks of Bleeding for 20 seconds, i highly doubt a pet will survive that. Also, when the pet is alive i could just put my armor off and stop moving, its suicide.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

You tank, the pet do the damage, thats the basis. And that work pretty well. The only phase where i’ve ever seen my pet dying is Phase 2 and with my build I’ve only 5 point in wilderness survival, so no protection on dodge or uber trait “bark skin”.

Just give it a try. With this build with the armor set listed you will never take a 25k hit from lupi… Maybe 10-12k, no more. It’s not a foolish zerker build that focus on damage.

Most of the Ranger whiner communauty don’t want to acknoledge their pet strenght. And your doing the exact same mistake as them. You base your build with the idea that your pet is only here to slow down lupi and you seem to think that he is no more than a hindrance for you. You don’t even bother to express a pet choice for your attempts.

I only post here to help. I’m curious to see if someone can make it (solo lupi on ranger). And by the way, I’ve seen on this forum that a couple of BM ranger already made it to Phase 3.

Well, that’s all. Good luck, i just tried to give you some tips, do whatever you want.

PS.: lupi won’t pop a worm on your pet.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

You can’t keep the pet alive. It’s simply impossible.
And if the pet is alive, you get problems yourself.
Nothing against you, but please inform about lupicus before you give tips about him.

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Posted by: Harnel.6810

Harnel.6810

Sure, you can’t keep the pet alive, but that doesn’t mean you can swap like a jerk. See, with 15 points in BM, you get swapping every fifteen seconds, and 2 seconds of quickness every time you swap. While this doesn’t mean your pet will survive a super-punch, it will give you extra DPS and distract the boss. Particularly if you go with a bear, which actually CAN survive the super punch, and will draw the aggro of your enemies, on top of being the single toughest type of pet available. go with a brown bear for the fact that they have the warrior skill “Shake It Off” as their F2, and you have a winner.

So, actually, yes, the pet is honestly a good thing to have. you just have to use it properly. I’ve seen players do ludicrous things with bears.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

Dub, I’ve done Arah countless time. Usually with my ranger. My best pet combinaison for lupi is cat/drake. And as I already said, the only phase I ever saw one of them dying is phase 2 (and that’s because i was careless).

If you keep aggro your pet will naturally attack from the rear and won’t take the big punch. As for me, here is how I classify pet :

Bear/spider : strong against condition, weak against Big hit
Dog/drake : average tank can whistand a good amout of condition and medium hits
Devourer : Really strong against big hitter, weak against condition
Moa : support pet
cats/birds : dps pet

A ranger who want to fight something like lupicus seeing is pet as an hindrance is like a warrior going at it saying “I won’t use any weapon! I’ll kill it with my banner!”. You clearly underestimate the ranger pet or your bad at using it. F1, F2, F3 and F4 aren’t here just for show.

F1 : No CD attack order
F3 (No CD) + lightning reflexe/hornet sting : your pet will follow you immediatly.
F4 : switch pet (the more you have point in BM the shorter the CD)

Plus, in good hand, the ranger is already a dodge beast. You don’t need a large amount of vigor. And no! Keeping your pet alive is something really easy when you are used to play with your pet. It’s even easyer now that they boost their healthpool.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

50g when you show me a lupicus solo without dying pets.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Dub, I’ve done Arah countless time. Usually with my ranger. My best pet combinaison for lupi is cat/drake. And as I already said, the only phase I ever saw one of them dying is phase 2 (and that’s because i was careless).

If you keep aggro your pet will naturally attack from the rear and won’t take the big punch. As for me, here is how I classify pet :

Bear/spider : strong against condition, weak against Big hit
Dog/drake : average tank can whistand a good amout of condition and medium hits
Devourer : Really strong against big hitter, weak against condition
Moa : support pet
cats/birds : dps pet

A ranger who want to fight something like lupicus seeing is pet as an hindrance is like a warrior going at it saying “I won’t use any weapon! I’ll kill it with my banner!”. You clearly underestimate the ranger pet or your bad at using it. F1, F2, F3 and F4 aren’t here just for show.

F1 : No CD attack order
F3 (No CD) + lightning reflexe/hornet sting : your pet will follow you immediatly.
F4 : switch pet (the more you have point in BM the shorter the CD)

Plus, in good hand, the ranger is already a dodge beast. You don’t need a large amount of vigor. And no! Keeping your pet alive is something really easy when you are used to play with your pet. It’s even easyer now that they boost their healthpool.

Countless time in a group. That doesn’t apply here at all. You or your pet never had full attention of that little guy. Since your pet can’t really dodge his 2 life drain skills in phase 3 it’s best to leave him dead, otherwise it’s a phenomenon I like to call “negative dps” occuring mostly with ranger proffesion.

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Posted by: Harnel.6810

Harnel.6810

50g when you show me a lupicus solo without dying pets.

You’re missing what we’re saying here. We are NOT saying that your pet won’t die. What we’re telling you is not to waste a resource, particularly one that can tank for you, or deal damage. Pets, at their core, are a distraction mechanic that can deal damage. Use yours as one; you’re playing ranger anyways, there’s literally no reason you shouldn’t

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

I already told you why the pet isn’t useful in any way. 50g when you show me a video where the pet is contributing in a good way.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Actually the only reason why i even play ranger is getting lupicus solo done on all professions. And you must not know much about lupicus because there the pet will cause a phenomen called “negative dps”.

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Posted by: Skady.5916

Skady.5916

Is Wethospu playing anymore? I liked that guys and his videos, was really fun!

This guy is just an arrogant jerk hating ranger profession left and right – his comments are full of negativity and hatred…
Not sure why you guys helping him and even talking to him

IMHO we should let him sit under his bridge

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

I’m always up for useful comments how i can maximize my damage output without relying on the pet (as descriped in opening post).

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

even if it did 1 dmg it contributed… use your brain and they of course can do much more than that. pet is part of rangers. perma stow means you will be playing inefficiently. how bout you just make another class and gtfo of ranger forum

Do 1 damage and heal the boss for tens of thousands. Contribution worthy of mention.

Is Wethospu playing anymore? I liked that guys and his videos, was really fun!

This guy is just an arrogant jerk hating ranger profession left and right – his comments are full of negativity and hatred…
Not sure why you guys helping him and even talking to him

IMHO we should let him sit under his bridge

There’s a good reason why almost everyone hates that proffesion. It mostly comes to the ignorance of wrongbow spammers sitting in the back doing absolutely nothing. But hey, your pet is contributing!

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Posted by: Aria.5940

Aria.5940

For the 3rd phase the pet is actually fine. Just switch pets every time lupi does the health drain. As an extra boost Lupi sometimes used the green fast damage skill on the pet. Only way the pet will ever get caught in the health drain and heal Lupi is if the ranger is sleeping in the dungeon. (if the pet switch is on cd, you keep your pet on passive until it’s ready in phase 3)

That said, the pet adds significant damage and ignoring it would be like taking away half your char’s strength.

A pet is only a problem if it’s out of control. If you play ranger in a dungeon, solo or with others, the pet should plain and simply never be out of control.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Still looking for a solo video of a ranger using his pet.
First of all i should probably bother trying it once more. Ugh.

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Posted by: SkyChef.5432

SkyChef.5432

Hey Dub,
Can you use short bow & axe/axe? Since the pet is a huge liability why not just ignoring everything about it completely, including traits affecting pets. I was thinking about these traits: 30-10-10-20-0. Rune of Air for your armors.
I have a Ranger too.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Pretty much need the greatsword for getting rid of locusts quick enough.

I won’t be able to do something with the pet anyway so i just leave it dead (no selfheal for lupicus, no locustos eating me, etc).
I’ll try your traits next time though, thanks for advice. Any majors i should pick?

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Posted by: SkyChef.5432

SkyChef.5432

You’ve probably picked the same thing already, but I just listed below just in case:

  • Signet Mastery, BeastMaster Might, Signet of Beastmaster. (You can also set up your bow’s attribute here if used)
  • Primal Reflexes. I’m iffy about this because 1 critical hit by Lupi is considered a gonner. I use Sharpened Edge in normal situations.
  • Wild_Knowledge (for LR). I’ve tested both & it doesn’t seem Vigor_Ren would stack w/ Nat_Vigor, or not noticeable better than using Wild_Knowledge.
  • Strength of Spirits & Nature Protections (or 2HT to increase GS damage if used)

The above traits nature is defensive against Lupi, evolving around dodging. If you think you have enough vigor (by using Sigil of Energy), don’t care about toughness & vigor regen, you can move 10 pts of Wild_Surv to Skirmish to increase axe damage then it will be 30-20-0-20-0. BTW, the 30-20-0-20-0 is my glass cannon ranger build w/ diff runes.
Good luck, man.

Edited for content’s clarity.

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