- Kudzu, Dreamer, Frostfang, Eternity, Flameseeker Prophecies ~
~Nevermore, HOPE, Moot, Incinerator, Meteorlogicus, Howler ~
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Hi all.
A few weeks ago I started building up my ranger for proper WvW roaming. After messing around for two weeks and being fairly successful, I decided to record some roaming from the current match-up and make some amateur videos.
Part 1 – Roaming 1v1s – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj5Po4HZc7o
Part 2 – Outnumbered – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZySajmKn-cE
Part 3 – Impromptu duels – <coming soon>
Notes:
- I use a/d & a/t because I really don’t like sword. It just bugs me and with my connection it’s a disaster. More rubberbanding is not something I need. Of course, this makes disengaging difficult at times, but I do have near-permanent swiftness. I’m also a sucker for a close-range Axe 2 whenever possible.
- I made my own build, but for all I know it’s exactly the same as an already established one. I didn’t really research builds, but I’m pretty much a condition/bunker/shout heal ranger.
- My ranger’s make-over for WvW is fresh, so my gear is still a work in progress. Legendary Axe, exotic torch/dagger, exotic accessories, ascended backpiece, ascended amulet, exotic rings. Using cheapo 60/70 food.
- These videos are intended to serve an introduction. In the future I hope to condense the week’s footage into one video with higher quality fights.
- Stay tuned for the 3rd video. It involves a duel with a ranger I assume to be using a similar build. It also involves me getting my kitten kicked by some crazy (to me) d/d ele.
I am still pretty raw and make plenty of mistakes, but I’m getting there.
Enjoy!
r8/h8
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Part 2 available.
I’m curious what you’re reasoning is behind using “Protect Me” in so many of the clips, over using Signet of Renewal more often, or even dropping that and picking up Signet of the Wild for higher constant regen (it looks like you have healing power of 1000+ so it would be worth it).
I see that you also had a preference for Spiders in a lot of clips. I understand the pet choice, but I’m wondering if you think it would be worth dropping the 10 points you have in Beastmastery for reduced Shout cooldown to go 10 in Marksmanship for Malicious Training to make your spiders immobilizes that much longer.
Nice vids either way.
I’m curious what you’re reasoning is behind using “Protect Me” in so many of the clips, over using Signet of Renewal more often, or even dropping that and picking up Signet of the Wild for higher constant regen (it looks like you have healing power of 1000+ so it would be worth it).
Yeah, I know where you’re coming from. It was mostly there as a safety net for anyone who was capable a lot of burst, but in a lot of the fights it wasn’t needed/used. When it was used, it probably wasn’t even used at appropriate times (one awesome moment where I used it right as my pet died whistles). However, I do have shouts traited so in addition to protecting against heavy burst it provides swiftness and regen (although really I have enough of the regen boon as it is).
9/10 fights I usually find my opponent first and change utilities as needed. Anyone I suspect is going to hit me hard with condition damage I get rid of Protect me and add signet of renewal.
Healing Power is approximately 600 in WvW. I’ve run with Signet of Wild a few times and it works as well. The only problem is for disengaging, Protect Me helps a lot.
Protect me is definitely the first utility I’d remove in my set-up, but it still has its uses. Without sword I have less access to evades.
I see that you also had a preference for Spiders in a lot of clips. I understand the pet choice, but I’m wondering if you think it would be worth dropping the 10 points you have in Beastmastery for reduced Shout cooldown to go 10 in Marksmanship for Malicious Training to make your spiders immobilizes that much longer.
Hmm, you know it’s something I haven’t really looked into yet. I’ll definitely consider all the trade-offs.
Nice vids either way.
Thanks for all the feedback
Ahhh, okay, I thought it was 1000+ healing power because I misread one of the Troll Unguent healing pop ups.
Yeah, I can see how it would help with disengaging. I’ve been spoiled on sword for such a long time that I forget the some of our other weapon sets just don’t have that getaway mobility.
And no problem I admittedly went in skeptical because I was unsure of the success of running a mainhand axe on both weapon sets, and there certainly aren’t that many people that play Nature’s Voice; and if they do they sure don’t make videos.
How necessary are you finding the dire gear? I just recently got around to getting myself a set of it, but I mixed it with rabid instead of apothecary/settlers which is what I’m assuming skewed my results and made me not like it as much since I dropped my constant healing.
It’s okay, skepticism is welcome. Probably justified when I get blown up by the ele in the 3rd (coming soon) video
Yes I haven’t seen a whole lot of Nature’s Voice rangers out and about. One I dueled in 3rd video I assume was running it. Guard is just used as a regen heal, the only problem is if the guard circle is too far away from the fight I occasionally forget to set my pet on the target again ;_;
My gear is still a bit all over the place, since in the first week of roaming I was using some silly power/vit heavy set-up. So half my armour is Dire, the other half is Carrion, same for weapons (Dire axe, carrion torch/dagger). Settlers/apothecary trinkets though.
I have about 1900 – 1950 toughness currently in WvW with bloodlust etc, so I’m not entirely sure that changing to more Dire will be necessary for me, I may just leave it as is.
I can post my build/current gear up soon I guess, but the main stats are roughly 1925 tough, 1925 condition dmg, 1621 vit, 600 Hp in WvW with all my buffs up.
At some point I’ll probably try and farm wxp hard to get Fortitude just for overkill.
I’m just asking because I only have limited experience with a Nature’s Voice build myself (it’s something I’m considering running in a hybrid Spirit build starting Dec. 10th).
Personally you seem to have a lot of the same playstyle preferences that I do, particularly where you decided to cap your healing power at (I always keep mine around 620 and always run with Signet of the Wild).
So I swapped builds over mainly because I picked up travelers runes but realized I dropped more survivability than I wanted by losing the perma-regen I got from Dwayna, and I ended up with a build like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNAV8fnAV0FclFKWwaZAZVAQaPyEzDTcPGF/LELZULB-jUCBIOCy0CwkHBKPqIaslhFRjVPDQfETxaR1eFLqGA-w
Unfortunately the gear isn’t optimized though. The ideal optimization would be more like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNAV8fnAV0FclFKWwaZAZVAQaPyEzDTcPGF/LELZULB-jkCBIOCy0CwkHBKPSZNTSQsMsIas6jYqVCpKWR2rgIqGA-w
I switch back and forth between Shortbow and Axe/Dagger depending on how badly I think my opponents are kiting me (well played engineers can be a real nuisance).
Overall though, that’s why I was asking for advice and such, don’t let me derail the thread haha
I just appreciated seeing something that isn’t entirely the same as every other ranger roaming video out there (not the players fault, our builds haven’t really differed all the much for about a year now). I’m also quite jealous of the Frostfang, as it’s one of the few legendaries I actually want (I’ll never have a legendary unless it gets easier to make or I spend real world money haha).
Props... definitely not a cookie cutter build you’re running. Would have been fun to duel you this week!
Overall though, that’s why I was asking for advice and such, don’t let me derail the thread haha
Rather the same person replying than none at all!
I’m also quite jealous of the Frostfang, as it’s one of the few legendaries I actually want (I’ll never have a legendary unless it gets easier to make or I spend real world money haha).
I made Frostfang, sold it because I changed my mind, then changed my mind again and made another to keep, lol. I changed my whole outfit to suit it. I have Kudzu and Dreamer too, but unless I feel like becoming a Legendary Bowbear I doubt they’ll see much use any more. I would like to try shortbow at some point though.
Props… definitely not a cookie cutter build you’re running. Would have been fun to duel you this week!
Thanks!
I struggled to find roamers this week, it’s the nature of a lopsided match-up I suppose.
Admittedly all my clips were only from Monday to Wednesday. I spent the rest making the videos. This was the first video I’ve ever made so I had to find some suitable editing software and then learn how to do the basics.
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Not bad since you are new to ranger roaming. However, I noticed you waste LR pretty often. This and running axe in both hands is gonna give you a hard time against semi-decent players/Spvpers in WvW. Also sharing your build might get you some helpful opinions, if it’s not secret.
My weapon sets are exactly like yours, a/t + a/d with Frostfang as axe , for exactly same reason, I just can’t get used to sword.
I really enjoyed the video, I want to try something different from my current build but not too different, currently I’m running a cond/bunker trapper build.
You tried some zerg fights with your build? If so how it went?
I like it, especially the outnumbered fights. I don’t know what it is, maybe it’s the ability to disengage but I find outnumbered fights a lot harder on my ranger compared to mesmer and thief. Also I like how you use axe in both hands, obviously it’s not beneficial but fun to watch, just hope you don’t bump into a PvP’er thats roaming!
protect me is wasted . SotW would be better . Sword is also amazing
However, I noticed you waste LR pretty often.
Yeah, it happens. Bit of hindsight in a way. Sometimes I notice during that I’ve wasted it, other times not so much (in particular outnumbered fights). Notice it on a playback of a video though.
This and running axe in both hands is gonna give you a hard time against semi-decent players/Spvpers in WvW.
We’ll have to wait and see I guess.
You tried some zerg fights with your build? If so how it went?
I really don’t care for zerg fights at all to be blunt. I mean I follow around on one my Guards occasionally to leech wxp and bags but yeah. So I haven’t tried it on Ranger.
Decent in small group play.
I like it, especially the outnumbered fights. I don’t know what it is, maybe it’s the ability to disengage but I find outnumbered fights a lot harder on my ranger compared to mesmer and thief.
lol, well yeah… it’s a ranger. Good thieves/mesmers are specialists for outnumbered fights.
Also I like how you use axe in both hands, obviously it’s not beneficial but fun to watch, just hope you don’t bump into a PvP’er thats roaming!
A common theme in the responses, which is fair enough. We’ll see, though.
protect me is wasted . SotW would be better . Sword is also amazing
Another thing I forgot to mention earlier about how it made it onto my utility bar: it’s also a stun-breaker. With no stability, two stunbreakers is nice.
I am happy to test out SotW though. I think it’s something like an extra 92 regen per sec with my healing power.
Sword is annoying as kitten for me for reasons mentioned above. At this point in time I’d rather have the 5 bleed stacks (optimally) every 5 seconds and some extra damage (however miniscule) from axe AA.
Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming.
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been on SBI since beta and i dont think ive ever seen your tag; but good to see we have another good ranger on the server! We are home to Xsorus too, though I havent seen him around recently. there are so few that arent bowbear rally bots these days.
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