Guild Wars 2

Hey any plans to nerf Druid?

Hopefully, if I ever see a ranger succeeding at anything I will kill my entire family!

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Ya i bought the expansion on a whim and I really can’t see myself using druid over regular ranger, which is pretty bad.

Mobs in Verdant Brink aren’t easy now because of the “issue” but because of Druid. He heals everything and everyone and you don’t even notice.

krzysiek.9061:

Mobs in Verdant Brink aren’t easy now because of the “issue” but because of Druid. He heals everything and everyone and you don’t even notice.

My reaper notices. But doesn’t care because mobs in verdant brink are still easy enough.

you missed spelled buffs

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

Kidel.2057:

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

Yes, druid heals are stronger and more easily applied. But they have little group support outside of direct healing and condition removal.

I’d gladly take a cleric guardian over any druid, even though the druid still has stronger heals.

Kidel.2057:

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

They are good at healing, and will probably even be great in pug pvp, but if you get a group that is some what competent at pvp than that druid will be killed relatively fast. Druid has access to limited stun break in most specs, Quicken Zypher and Lightning Reflexes are probably what most rangers would use, and limited stab, Strength of the pack and Signet of the Wild which I think no healer focused druid would take. Assuming they do, both are on 60 sec CD making them not reliable enough. So if a team just quickly focuses the druid it will die relatively fast.

With all this sad, Druid is pretty good in wvw zergs assuming it can get stab from the guardians in the zerg.

Quarktastic.1027:

Kidel.2057:

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

Yes, druid heals are stronger and more easily applied. But they have little group support outside of direct healing and condition removal.

I’d gladly take a cleric guardian over any druid, even though the druid still has stronger heals.

What? Not at all. You’re only looking at druid stuff. You can still have warhorn, signets and spirits and apply perma protection and might, and also AOE revive like warriors do. Warhorn can apply might, swiftness, fury and regen if traited.

@Kitty.1502
Bunker druid is not easy at all to kill. Pretty sure it can endure any 1vs1.

Kidel.2057:

Quarktastic.1027:

Kidel.2057:

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

Yes, druid heals are stronger and more easily applied. But they have little group support outside of direct healing and condition removal.

I’d gladly take a cleric guardian over any druid, even though the druid still has stronger heals.

What? Not at all. You’re only looking at druid stuff. You can still have warhorn, signets and spirits and apply perma protection and might, and also AOE revive like warriors do. Warhorn can apply might, swiftness, fury and regen if traited.

@Kitty.1502
Bunker druid is not easy at all to kill. Pretty sure it can endure any 1vs1.

I thought we were talking about team support, not 1vs1. That aside, spirits are still really easy to kill, and actually reviving an ally with spirit of nature is such an incredible feat of skill, I marvel any time someone actually manages to pull it off.

Guardians have group aegis/stability/protection/stun break, while still having strong healing. In order to do all of the things you listed as a druid, you essentially need to run 3 spirits, leaving you with only 1 stun break and zero glyphs.

Kidel.2057:

Bunker druid is not easy at all to kill. Pretty sure it can endure any 1vs1.

Erm, no bunker spec is easy to kill, especially 1v1, that is rather a requirement of being a bunker spec…

What you need to be asking is how does bunker druid compare to other bunkers overall (bunker guard, scrapper, etc), is it harder or easier to focus down, is the group support it offers better or worse, how does its DPS output compae, etc…

zinkz.7045:

Kidel.2057:

Bunker druid is not easy at all to kill. Pretty sure it can endure any 1vs1.

Erm, no bunker spec is easy to kill, especially 1v1, that is rather a requirement of being a bunker spec…

If you look at the best bunkers they are also able to deal decent damage, something the ranger can’t do when druid bunk. Furthermore, even if they go zerker, with all the new sustain the dps builds of other classes get, they will struggle to get enough dps to win those fights as well.

Druid is a nerf.

A lot of MMO’s, healers get nerfed into dust. Either that or their dps.

I must clarify something. I do not want Druid to be nerfed, I want other healer class to be relevant as Druid.

I agree with Kidel, if they want druids to be healers… and with the current heals/stats thy are given…

Other classes need to lose a SIGNIFICANT amount of healing potential. Scale the dps output to the potential healing. Lots of Dps/Limited to no heals…. and vice versa

Druids are great at healing but have no boon production. They CC and they heal. This is their niche.

Guardian and Ele are worse at healing but they are boon factories.

Chokolata.1870:

Druids are great at healing but have no boon production. They CC and they heal. This is their niche.

Guardian and Ele are worse at healing but they are boon factories.

bigger difference is that Ele and Guardian can do more damage while bunkering.

Druid feels strong because the heals = large amount of sustain. With full clerics my sustain allows me to take fire from 2-3 players for quite some time. The downside is the fact that I can not do anything much in terms of damage while I give myself this sustain.

What would make other classes feel better would be if investing in Healing Power was a good investment. The scaling is really off. But the same could be said about Toughness as well.

Some of the ways other classes can place their heals isn’t ideal either. If this could ever change would be great but not so sure we’ll see anything like that ever happen.

Druid itself is a nerf to Ranger.

Chokolata.1870:

Druids are great at healing but have no boon production. They CC and they heal. This is their niche.

Guardian and Ele are worse at healing but they are boon factories.

And yet a Druid can maintain 11 Might, Fury, Swiftness, Protection and Regeneration on a party with a 70% uptime of vigor and a 50% uptime of Stability (These are extended fight duration numbers mind you, 60s or less.), as well as output big heals.

How is that not a boon factory?