Are there any viable beastmaster builds?

Are there any viable beastmaster builds?

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Posted by: JRhyder.4820

JRhyder.4820

I have gone through several builds on my ranger up to this point and am currently sitting on this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAT8YjEq0waFLGsw1ag+ga9DEAjdzfYFY+vfQGrkgsJ-TZBBwAcOIAAuAAE3fAcZAIPBAA
I will swap between Spotter and Eagle Eye.

I’ve tried the different variations of this build, but find that I don’t feel as survivable (may just be me) without the toughness. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Ranger_-_Read_the_Wind_Power_Ranger

I’ve tried both of these builds however, I miss my LB. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Ranger_-_Condition_Survival and http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Ranger_-_S/T_%2B_A/D_Condition

I’m mostly happy with where I am with my DPS and my toughness however, I’m curious if I can make any improvements. Also I’m curious where the Beastmastery line comes in nowadays.

Thanks.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

Beast Mastery is not really a beast mastery.
It’s a healing trait line.

And healing in GW2 is not worth any investment at all.
I had one pretty interesting build that could melt a bunker guard in 5 seconds straight if he blew all his cooldowns…
… But that’s pretty much it.

I had to wait a lifetime afterwards since I was out of cooldowns or my pet died from breathing air as usual.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

Hi, I use a BM build and its very effective.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0ya/KWsQ1agDhq9K0uTNrA4dxus3cGPkgsJ-TpBFABAfIAa7CAkwRAAqyAA8AAGZ/BA

I think this build is very fun cus you actually combo your attacks with your pet.
quickness on birds+poison master put tons of pressure. you have great healing defence and survivebility.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

Hi, I use a BM build and its very effective.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0ya/KWsQ1agDhq9K0uTNrA4dxus3cGPkgsJ-TpBFABAfIAa7CAkwRAAqyAA8AAGZ/BA

I think this build is very fun cus you actually combo your attacks with your pet.
quickness on birds+poison master put tons of pressure. you have great healing defence and survivebility.

Except you die to every Zerk class and every Condi Pressure build.
And since you are Beast Master you are useless in team fights.

And you bring very little team utility.

And neither the damage nor the survivability are good =D

But yep, the build might work in 5 out of 10 duels.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

I’ve had a hard time since the pet range and damage nerf and the quickness nerf and trait swaps personally. Fond memories of my Jaguar of days gone by… Sometimes, i look at my old Apothecary armour in the bank and i weep.

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

BM doesn’t make sense anymore. 3 points in NM and an axe provides a higher damage pet than an equal investment into BM.

Ranger | Elementalist

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Posted by: worminator.5174

worminator.5174

Thats my beastmasterbuild for PvP. It is not the best Teambuild, but Entangle and the fear of the wolf can save teammates, before they got stomped. With this build. you should focus on 1v1 and 2v2 fights, that happends more often while you are fighting at the sidepoints.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fjMq0xaFLusQ1agDhiVA8uKW2b2dO0CV9FTUVF-TJhHwAPLDA4hAE4MAAa/BA

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

Thats my beastmasterbuild for PvP. It is not the best Teambuild, but Entangle and the fear of the wolf can save teammates, before they got stomped. With this build. you should focus on 1v1 and 2v2 fights, that happends more often while you are fighting at the sidepoints.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fjMq0xaFLusQ1agDhiVA8uKW2b2dO0CV9FTUVF-TJhHwAPLDA4hAE4MAAa/BA

Wolf is a must-have for every single Build You will ever run as a Ranger.
Entangle is used in almost every single build there is. The only exception is the Spirit Build.

What’s the difference ?

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

The problem I think most people have with Healing is they still let theirselves get hit by burst. Unless you’re running Soldiers (and sometimes even then), eating a whole burst to the face is going to take you down.

That being said, Healing allows you to take quite a licking and recover from it much quicker if you have sufficient sources of healing. Having dodges (Vigor = more dodges) and evades/blocks (our weapons are awesome here) also helps quite a bit. Throw in Leap Finishers through Healing Spring and you can bounce back pretty darn well.

Group fights it does definitely provide less though … as does just about any tanky build unless their job is to hold a point because all of your tankiness is of very little help to your squishy teammate that is being focused.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

I was actually just about to try out a new BM build. This is completely untested, and I already have some thoughts on how to improve it, but this is what I’m going to try when I get a chance.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRBHRxG2IjKNsWxi/KctGwPoW2ABAzJ4BefGb73eyP62D-TJhIwAAeCAfPJAf2fQYZAA

Edit: Er, just tried this on the golems and wasn’t getting the numbers I’d hoped for. Even with 25 stacks of might and SotW active, axe doesn’t crank out enough damage. The bird hits like a truck, but I was hoping for more than that.

It might be more viable in an actually team fight scenario, because the numbers were low but there were an awful lot of them. Meh.

(edited by Fluffball.8307)

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Axe has 3 uses:

  • Use it with Fortifying Bond (3 points in Nature Magic) to stack Might on your pet … this can max your pet very quickly in some situations
  • Bleed with Axe #2
  • Chill with Axe #3

If you’re not a condition build and you don’t have Fortifying Bond, I’d be hard-pressed to recommend you use MH Axe.

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Posted by: JRhyder.4820

JRhyder.4820

Thanks. I was hoping for a way to improve on my pet in my build, but I guess not; at least not without significantly stripping my own capabilities.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

No problem.
I was going to do the math for this … but when I googled Beastmastery, my old post from about a year ago came up.

I’ll have to double-check the numbers, but at a quick glance it seems still accurate.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Beastmastery-Math/first#post1974579

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

I was actually just about to try out a new BM build. This is completely untested, and I already have some thoughts on how to improve it, but this is what I’m going to try when I get a chance.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRBHRxG2IjKNsWxi/KctGwPoW2ABAzJ4BefGb73eyP62D-TJhIwAAeCAfPJAf2fQYZAA

Edit: Er, just tried this on the golems and wasn’t getting the numbers I’d hoped for. Even with 25 stacks of might and SotW active, axe doesn’t crank out enough damage. The bird hits like a truck, but I was hoping for more than that.

It might be more viable in an actually team fight scenario, because the numbers were low but there were an awful lot of them. Meh.

If you want the highest burst on Ranger possible, I propose this build to try.
It still relies on the pet, so don’t expect any Ranked placement with that.

But it’s a lot of fun in normals.
Blows people up in seconds. All of them.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fnMqQrgWxC+rAXLI4QoafC/6IwKA+Vs+e3LWpEJ-TJhHwAPLDA4JA8Z/hAnEAA

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

If you want the highest burst on Ranger possible, I propose this build to try.
It still relies on the pet, so don’t expect any Ranked placement with that.

But it’s a lot of fun in normals.
Blows people up in seconds. All of them.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fnMqQrgWxC+rAXLI4QoafC/6IwKA+Vs+e3LWpEJ-TJhHwAPLDA4JA8Z/hAnEAA

Ya, was just trying to come up with ways for both the ranger and the pet to be a threat, but it’s semi-pointless with the axe + fortifying bond you get with a normal condi build.

I feel like there is something close but it probably could only work in WvW where I can customize the gear a little better. Maybe use something more similar to the dueling spec I and others use, with BM, GS + 1h sword and no condis. The whole idea started because I use cele amulet on my condi-survival build, and the axe hits hard enough to be a respectable contributor to the condis, but it doesn’t seem to be able to scale much further.

At least sword still gives might to the pet.

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Posted by: Slavi.9137

Slavi.9137

I’m kind of tired of seeing these posts. Haven’t played in a while and still this question keeps getting asked.
So here just take it and go
Defensive variant
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhF6kRFaF0KWwfF4axAHCFrA4dWUENr73tFq5MWJBZPA-
TpxHwABOEACOCAILDY4BA4Z/BAnAAA

Offensive Variant
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhF6kRFaF0KWwfF4axAHCFrA4dWUE3s73tFq5M+ZFZPA-TpxHwAJLDE4QAI4IAY4BAA4EAge/BA

A more power/healing oriented BM build instead of your typical condition damage bleed stacking roll around while my pet hits you build.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

I’m kind of tired of seeing these posts. Haven’t played in a while and still this question keeps getting asked.
So here just take it and go
Defensive variant
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhF6kRFaF0KWwfF4axAHCFrA4dWUENr73tFq5MWJBZPA-
TpxHwABOEACOCAILDY4BA4Z/BAnAAA

Offensive Variant
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhF6kRFaF0KWwfF4axAHCFrA4dWUE3s73tFq5M+ZFZPA-TpxHwAJLDE4QAI4IAY4BAA4EAge/BA

A more power/healing oriented BM build instead of your typical condition damage bleed stacking roll around while my pet hits you build.

But the thing is… Defensive variant is pointless. Bunker ranger is far inferior to his Guard buddy. There’s just no reason to take the defensive variant from objective poin of view.

For the offensive variant – it lacks condi removal, it will get melted by Zerk classes like Thieves and Mesmers… So what’s the point of taking a dueling spec (pet is dead in teamfights) when you don’t even have the upper hand in duels?

Also: Why would you overkill the direct damage, when you know that BM ranger specializes in sustaining a fight while his pet deals the direct numbers?
Does not make sense. You need to invest 3 stats only to be effective in Power Variant. That leaves no space for defensive ones – that BM needs. Condition damage is ideal since it only requires 1 stat to be invested for the results very close to the 3 stat power variant.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

(edited by Tragic Positive.9356)