Asking for constructive advice on WvW Build

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Posted by: Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209

Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209

This is what I am running currently in WvW (except with 3xZerker/3xValk Armor, haven’t had the $$ to make the Marauder yet.):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNUQJATRnEqAlsgVsCuCCUtglFBb5yFAOawP1s6X9JKcCeZnkittenB-TlSBQBT4CAgATQBU9HUoLIjKPigSwroEDAHCAN8EAey+DBAQAYn7cn38mBA-w

I like the LB/GS combo, and I like to have strong pets…but it feels like something is missing…I’m not sure if I need more Toughness, or what…I seem to get downed pretty easily. Maybe its a L2P for me as I do not “main” Ranger, but I have a lot of fun playing it…but I am not sure.

I have just added in the Energy Sigils so I can keep up my endurance for dodging(maybe I only need 1?), and I am willing to swap Moment of Clarity for Steady Focus in Marksmanship, if that may help.

I’m usually on LB in WvW, and GS is my finish/Lord/getaway weapon.

Thanks for any constructive input/ideas.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

it feels like something is missing…I’m not sure if I need more Toughness, or what…I seem to get downed pretty easily.

What’s missing is your “oh dang!” button. Drop sic ’em for SoS and natural stride for celestial shadow.

Somewhere you’ll want to slot in a shout for swiftness, and that can be WHaO, PM, or SotP. Or even guard some people like that one. Or it could be all of them.

Also if you’re using GS mainly as a defensive weapon, I’d definitely look at staff. It’s more defensive and gives you a blast finisher for the smokscale. It also recharges CA really fast.

But the main thing is being able to bail more easily with an ‘invuln’ and stealth.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

3 survival skills without the trait is not very good and more specifically it lacks any reasonable condition removal.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Oh jeez, I didn’t even realize you weren’t in wilderness survival. Ya you need more condi removal than CA. Lose MM for WS 2-3-2.

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Posted by: Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209

Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209

I see your points…I ofund a video on Youtube of a player using this build…and I thought it was pretty close to what you were suggesting. Lots of ways to condi-cleanse. I tweaked this link with what I currently run gear-wise. I played it a bit, and it seems to flow well. I look forward to any suggestions or tips.

H/T to Bik and his Balouga TV channel for sharing this build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNUQJATRnEqAlsgVsCuCCUtglFBD+pmV/qLXuAwRrpc1BGBpI9KIlE-TVTDABUcIA6RJ2R7PEgJGAMBdqSwnUeswFAAEdBScEAO4BAEjqCvoWTAAEA25O3ZAA-w

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Ya its fine, I really would put some emphasis in getting an ascended longbow first and of course the rest of your ascended trinkets from the new map rewards tracks.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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That build is totally acceptable, but I still think you should drop NS for CS. Celestial Shadow is the strongest roaming trait we have since it can be used so powerfully on both offense and defense. It will without doubt cause you to win fights you would have otherwise lost. Just think about how easily inexperienced thieves can heal up and try again, or 100-0 someone without people even knowing they’re about to be attacked.

Up to you of course, not everyone wants to play the same way, and NS is a decent trait. If you do want to make the trait switch you’d have to rejigger the build slightly.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

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don’t go all zerk if you roam.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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don’t go all zerk if you roam.

I’d say don’t roam if you aren’t going full glass. It’s boring and no one has fun fighting someone in tank gear.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

I’d use at minimum the ascended berserker/valk trinkets. Well that’s what I setup my zerk longbow ranger for anyhow. Trim a little precision for ~1k hp.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

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don’t go all zerk if you roam.

I’d say don’t roam if you aren’t going full glass. It’s boring and no one has fun fighting someone in tank gear.

you have to go tank if you are doing anything else than pewpew from distance and hope the other to go full glass or not to have a brain.

Druid got too many nerfs and ranger is not in any shape to fight anything.

you need at least 20k life, 2.9k armor to not instapop against any other class in game. Otherwise their spamming 15k every 2 seconds with 3k armor is going to leave you sore.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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You don’t have to go tank to play something other than longbow. Source: I don’t ever play tank builds and do fine.

We do little enough damage, the tankier you are the more likely you’re going to run into someone you are flat out unable to kill, namely warriors, tempests, and scrappers. Tank druid versus any kind of scrapper is a stalemate, glass druid has a chance.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

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You don’t have to go tank to play something other than longbow. Source: I don’t ever play tank builds and do fine.

We do little enough damage, the tankier you are the more likely you’re going to run into someone you are flat out unable to kill, namely warriors, tempests, and scrappers. Tank druid versus any kind of scrapper is a stalemate, glass druid has a chance.

But glass druid vs well played berserker, DH, or tempest is still a stalemate. We lack the burst necessary to overcome their sustain in the small windows we have where their blocks, invulns, etc. are on cooldown.

You actually have a better chance of winning on bunker because you can take a couple hits to ensure you land things like a 25 might stack maul.

I loved playing glass but the Hot power creep has left us behind. Everyone is too mobile for us to effectively kite like we used to, there is too much projectile hate (and anet removed our unblockable), people fully ignore our cc’s, and we have no way to strip boons.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

You don’t have to go tank to play something other than longbow. Source: I don’t ever play tank builds and do fine.

We do little enough damage, the tankier you are the more likely you’re going to run into someone you are flat out unable to kill, namely warriors, tempests, and scrappers. Tank druid versus any kind of scrapper is a stalemate, glass druid has a chance.

But glass druid vs well played berserker, DH, or tempest is still a stalemate. We lack the burst necessary to overcome their sustain in the small windows we have where their blocks, invulns, etc. are on cooldown.

You actually have a better chance of winning on bunker because you can take a couple hits to ensure you land things like a 25 might stack maul.

I loved playing glass but the Hot power creep has left us behind. Everyone is too mobile for us to effectively kite like we used to, there is too much projectile hate (and anet removed our unblockable), people fully ignore our cc’s, and we have no way to strip boons.

Yes i agree. Ranger doesnt have any real burst and the pets are still pretty bad against moving players.

going glassy means when the warrior cc chain you, you are dead with the first 18k arc divider that you will eat it up because we lack enough mobility, GS warrior moves faster than us.

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