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Posted by: skowcia.8257

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Looking from perspective 6/6/2/0/0 to 6/0/6/0/6 with taunt on f2. Does it make any sense to continue run wolf for fear or spider for immo?

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

It does. You might really want that +3might and Quickness from Beast Mastery as a Zerk Sniper. There is that possibility you know.

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

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maybe the freat and taunt combo will make the enemy explode.
I guss wolf is not the best pet to work owht taunt, but why bear?
what about bird or even cat? with all damage on pet and they’r running right tward him, might be deadly.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

It does. You might really want that +3might and Quickness from Beast Mastery as a Zerk Sniper. There is that possibility you know.

I prefer cc. Espesially a taunt to help me kite like a boss with 15cd which also make my opponent defendless for 2sec unless they stunbreak..

maybe the freat and taunt combo will make the enemy explode.
I guss wolf is not the best pet to work owht taunt, but why bear?
what about bird or even cat? with all damage on pet and they’r running right tward him, might be deadly.

I like the sound of bearbow xd but
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Juvenile_Arctodus 15cd, nice synergy with trait
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Juvenile_White_Raven doesnt look bad either

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Posted by: bloodpyrope.8630

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Is anyone else wondering what will happen if you use f2 on your jaguar?

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Posted by: ProtoMarcus.7649

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It’ll gain its ‘Stalk’ effect (unbreakable stealth)

and the enemy will walk towards something it can’t see >:D

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Posted by: Klonko.8341

Klonko.8341

Murellow will be baddass with this… Poison cloud around him + somebody that walks in it

The one that will be the most ridiculous with this are the porcine pet. It will be like:

“FORAGE MY PET!!!” – ranger
" OH NO YOU DONT! DONT DESTROY MY BEAUTIFUL GRASS!" – taunted enemy

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Posted by: Eggyokeo.9705

Eggyokeo.9705

i cant see why you wound use a bear for any thing other then soloing a champ.

I looking foreword testing out the taunt effect and a glass pet maybe an owl/raven or Jag.

But it also means that you don’t have to have the wolf for the fear effect you will get the same uses on all pets (fear off stops razes etc)

Also keep in mind that pets prowess and agility taring (new pet prowess minor) is going to be permanent in a BM build this should make Cats hit more consistently with out a speed buffs

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

The problem with bears is that they do very little damage: base 300 while dogs do base of 500.
So even if you use taunt the damage would be minimal.

As someone said before the best choice is to use birds, they have very low CD so if the trait hasn’t ICD should viable to keep the enemy far.
Otherwise 2 secs taunt i don’t see much uses in PvP or WvW.
In PvE not many either.

Although the idea is cool.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

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To be honest, you used Wolves for CC before.
Now you can use Bears for the very same purpose.

I can see the BearBow meta becoming meaningful for PvP.
By the way – I made a new topic about PvE DPS. The Bow part is becoming meta there, too.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

To be honest, you used Wolves for CC before.
Now you can use Bears for the very same purpose.

I can see the BearBow meta becoming meaningful for PvP.
By the way – I made a new topic about PvE DPS. The Bow part is becoming meta there, too.

Just let be clear: we don’t have meta because our profession is weak so really doesn’t matter what you play in PvE.
But you are right LB comes strong after the change (nerf) on light on your feet, although i think condition builds will come strong. And BM line like a must.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

To be honest, you used Wolves for CC before.
Now you can use Bears for the very same purpose.

I can see the BearBow meta becoming meaningful for PvP.
By the way – I made a new topic about PvE DPS. The Bow part is becoming meta there, too.

Yep although i think condition builds will come strong. And BM line like a must.

We both agree here.
But I can still find some people cautious around that trait… Since pets will still have issues with surviving (much lover, but still) and if you wanted the pet to be extremely scary and sustainable – you’d have to sacrifice Quick Draw (Boon Sharing to pet in NM, Bark Skin in Wilderness).

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Posted by: Eggyokeo.9705

Eggyokeo.9705

why is beast master compulsory?

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

^BW brings so much utility to the table (if the mechanic ends up working well).

regarding wolf fear – if enemy is feared, he gets taunt and fear conditions, right? one stunbreak resolves both. so I really don’t think it’s required to run canines any longer with BW in the game. use birds people. they crit medium armor for 5k.

im also thinking bears will be the pet of choice for zerging because of their innate invuln ability.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

To be honest, you used Wolves for CC before.
Now you can use Bears for the very same purpose.

I can see the BearBow meta becoming meaningful for PvP.
By the way – I made a new topic about PvE DPS. The Bow part is becoming meta there, too.

Yep although i think condition builds will come strong. And BM line like a must.

We both agree here.
But I can still find some people cautious around that trait… Since pets will still have issues with surviving (much lover, but still) and if you wanted the pet to be extremely scary and sustainable – you’d have to sacrifice Quick Draw (Boon Sharing to pet in NM, Bark Skin in Wilderness).

Well the trait go for the eyes gives +300 toughness to the pet, i see that helping with survival.
Other than that you have to forget support(spotter) and go WS – BM – MS.
and skills use shouts and survival (maybe SoS could stay…).
Even then the build is weak as i see with a lot of loopholes, but well is what they gave us.

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Posted by: Eggyokeo.9705

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^BW brings so much utility to the table (if the mechanic ends up working well).

Don’t get me wrong its a good trait line, but but duel dogs is still going to be very effect if you don’t want go in to the bm trait line.

as far as bears in zergs go we will have to see if they can stay alive with the buffs, if not we still might as well use drakes for the blast finisher every 1 min (dead pet swap)

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

You want the pets with the AOE F2s for this.

So black bear, murello, drakes, moas, alpine wolf, polar bear.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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You want the pets with the AOE F2s for this.

So black bear, murello, drakes, moas, alpine wolf, polar bear.

AoE doesn’t matter, the trait isn’t “Taunt enemies hit by your F2” it’s “Taunt enemies around you when you use F2”. So it doesn’t matter WHAT the active is, it’ll taunt things around them.

What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

You want the pets with the AOE F2s for this.

So black bear, murello, drakes, moas, alpine wolf, polar bear.

AoE doesn’t matter, the trait isn’t “Taunt enemies hit by your F2” it’s “Taunt enemies around you when you use F2”. So it doesn’t matter WHAT the active is, it’ll taunt things around them.

What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

That’s exactly what I’m saying.

you want to taunt people into the pets with AOE f2s = poison clouds, weakness, daze, chills, etc

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

You want the pets with the AOE F2s for this.

So black bear, murello, drakes, moas, alpine wolf, polar bear.

AoE doesn’t matter, the trait isn’t “Taunt enemies hit by your F2” it’s “Taunt enemies around you when you use F2”. So it doesn’t matter WHAT the active is, it’ll taunt things around them.

What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

That’s exactly what I’m saying.

you want to taunt people into the pets with AOE f2s = poison clouds, weakness, daze, chills, etc

Oooooh, ok I see what you’re saying now, it depends on the range of the Taunt, I doubt it’ll out range most F2s, but who knows! For Murellow it’ll for sure be good because you’ll be dragging them into the poison field.

And who else is excited about Go For the Eyes, aka blind when you use F2, with seemingly no ICD. It’ll make Hawks and Eagles pretty freaking amazing with their 6s CD.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

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Quite the contrary, I’d see other less durable pets shine thanks to the new bark skin. As a pew pew ranger, there’s quite a high chance my hp will be staying at 90%+ and my pet will stand in front of me tanking damage.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

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What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

those are good points and im very anxious to find out. the taunt must happen when we press F2, regardless of the pet actually hitting the target or getting the cast off. if this isn’t the case, it wont be good. if the taunt is at least 300 range, it should be decent. im hoping for 600.

if we depend on the pet completing the f2 cast or making contact with the target, then we simply wont be able to use BW reactively, and it could be very underwhelming, if not useless. if anything, BW should be cast first to ensure the completion of the F2 skill. so if the target lacks a stun break, they eat the f2. if they do get the stunbreak off and the F2 doesn’t complete, then at least we force that defensive CD.

im hopeful. when reading the description, it seems that activating the f2 is what causes the aoe taunt around the pet. pretty much all of my arguments and BM builds im planning are centred on this.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

those are good points and im very anxious to find out. the taunt must happen when we press F2, regardless of the pet actually hitting the target or getting the cast off. if this isn’t the case, it wont be good. if the taunt is at least 300 range, it should be decent. im hoping for 600.

if we depend on the pet completing the f2 cast or making contact with the target, then we simply wont be able to use BW reactively, and it could be very underwhelming, if not useless. if anything, BW should be cast first to ensure the completion of the F2 skill. so if the target lacks a stun break, they eat the f2. if they do get the stunbreak off and the F2 doesn’t complete, then at least we force that defensive CD.

im hopeful. when reading the description, it seems that activating the f2 is what causes the aoe taunt around the pet. pretty much all of my arguments and BM builds im planning are centred on this.

This is what I was thinking too, I’d be a bit surprised if the taunt happened after the cast instead of at the start. But you can never be too sure…

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

You want the pets with the AOE F2s for this.

So black bear, murello, drakes, moas, alpine wolf, polar bear.

AoE doesn’t matter, the trait isn’t “Taunt enemies hit by your F2” it’s “Taunt enemies around you when you use F2”. So it doesn’t matter WHAT the active is, it’ll taunt things around them.

What i’m really wondering though is does this happen at the beginning or end of the F2 cast, if it’s at the beginning it’ll have amazing synergy with Drakes where you’d be able to taunt them into the jaws of the beast and it’d make Fire, Frost, and Reef drakes very very very viable and strong choices.

Actually mate, the Salamander Drake just took a huge (60%) hit to its F2 damage because of the stacking nature of burning now. River still awesome