Looking for a solo condi ranger build for taking town tough enemies with large pools of health as I explore Tyria (boss events, etc.). I can’t seem to find a good one. Ideally, I’d want to maximize damage and healing (maybe druid spec?).
Sharpened edges and earth sigil type build is weaker in open world exploring cause of poor crit chance.
Well, naturally.
But it’s still one of the better choices since you do not rely on immobile targets and melee range (easier tagging and switching, you get a lot of boosts for World Bosses, too).
There aren’t really any other choices for Condi DPS anyway. It’s not like the DPS magically changes by 280% with a single change of the sigil. It’s open world, after all.
Here is something more realistic if you don’t already have the gear/means to get it and it will scale decently from queensdale to orr.
Keep in mind that when downscaled, your stat points get wrecked pretty badly but hard stats like fury, accuracy sigil, Hunter’s tactics (+10% crit chance) +% condi duration and so on are not.
Here is something more realistic if you don’t already have the gear/means to get it and it will scale decently from queensdale to orr.
Keep in mind that when downscaled, your stat points get wrecked pretty badly but hard stats like fury, accuracy sigil, Hunter’s tactics (+10% crit chance) +% condi duration and so on are not.
You do realize this build deals only around 50% of the condi damage than the one proposed, don’t you ?
The 35% crit might not be worth it. Not to mention that Rampager is not really accepted anywhere and can be used in open world only, whereas the Viper Setup is perfectly viable for any and every content. Including raids.
I wouldn’t really suggest making a build and whole equipment that specializes around down-scaled areas. No one cares about those. People do them naked with the same results. It’s a waste of resources.
Here is something more realistic if you don’t already have the gear/means to get it and it will scale decently from queensdale to orr.
Keep in mind that when downscaled, your stat points get wrecked pretty badly but hard stats like fury, accuracy sigil, Hunter’s tactics (+10% crit chance) +% condi duration and so on are not.
You do realize this build deals only around 50% of the condi damage than the one proposed, don’t you ?
The 35% crit might not be worth it. Not to mention that Rampager is not really accepted anywhere and can be used in open world only, whereas the Viper Setup is perfectly viable for any and every content. Including raids.
I wouldn’t really suggest making a build and whole equipment that specializes around down-scaled areas. No one cares about those. People do them naked with the same results. It’s a waste of resources.
I went the tragic mess route and put in ascended armor/trinkets and added in the sigil of corruption 25 buff + max condi food and it came out to 1200 condi dmg which is ~80% of your 1500 condi dmg. Hardly 50%.
And my builds condi duration increase doesn’t suffer from down scaling which is like over half of the open world pve environment.
And he gets always 4+7+20+10= 41% crit chance while flanking with shortbow; on any map, at any lvl of downscale.
Oh and btw that’s some pretty amazing 135.4% bleed duration you got going on there. Truly a tragic mess.
Now if the guy had asked for a cursed shore/hot lvl 80 build ya I could have done a different build but he asked for an open world explorer and downscaling is pretty prevalent. But ya lets just go all in and suggest he get full ascended armor(what is ascended armor set like 300g now?) and even the exotic recipe/product are account bound so cant even get off tp so ya lets get him 400-500 leather. And the trinkets are gated aswell.
And to further, lets go ahead and suggest he burn 2g an hour on food for open world exploring.
I took apothecary gear for my druid (condi, vitality, healing power). With glyph trait, axe trait, regen pet, two traps and quickdraw axe&torch. And of course some condi removal and condi traits.
I took runes of the dwayna (actually i would had prefered grove runes but it would be better if the 6th trait had either a lower cd or something like a centari fragment effect), runes of dwayna give you goood regen and sustain healing.
As pets i took a spider and fern dog.
All in all good condi Aoe dmg and goid sustain heal.
I took apothecary gear for my druid (condi, vitality, healing power). With glyph trait, axe trait, regen pet, two traps and quickdraw axe&torch. And of course some condi removal and condi traits.
I took runes of the dwayna (actually i would had prefered grove runes but it would be better if the 6th trait had either a lower cd or something like a centari fragment effect), runes of dwayna give you goood regen and sustain healing.
As pets i took a spider and fern dog.
All in all good condi Aoe dmg and goid sustain heal.
I took apothecary gear for my druid (condi, vitality, healing power). With glyph trait, axe trait, regen pet, two traps and quickdraw axe&torch. And of course some condi removal and condi traits.
I took runes of the dwayna (actually i would had prefered grove runes but it would be better if the 6th trait had either a lower cd or something like a centari fragment effect), runes of dwayna give you goood regen and sustain healing.
As pets i took a spider and fern dog.
All in all good condi Aoe dmg and goid sustain heal.
It’s still a huge waste of resources. Thousandfold more so with crafting an ascended rampager set. That build is not really usable anywhere apart from open world.
By having an ascended Viper set you are good to go to any an every content. Plus it’s just as effective. The differences in open world are minimal.
Plus OP asked for maximizing healing as well. Which means traiting for druid (you left that out).
Builds listed are literally templates. If the OP wants to change anything or leave out X or Y he will do so. I’m just pointing out logical solutions. There’s no point in crafting an ascended set and waste 400 gold for an open world content that you’ll have to replace for everything else, <sigh>… You can get the best DPS set of ascendeds (viper) with only a little more with results being literally the same.
You won’t notice a dmg difference in exploring areas. But with the Bleeder druid by kazi – you have Natural Stride (an extreme time efficiency while roaming in Tyria), that amazing bleed bomb (trap+seeds > torch) and you are fine to join any Raid, Dungeon or Fractal without hesitation. People are going to kick you on spot if you call yourself a rampager Ranger in difficult content or speed runs.
It’s still a huge waste of resources. Thousandfold more so with crafting an ascended rampager set. That build is not really usable anywhere apart from open world.
By having an ascended Viper set you are good to go to any an every content. Plus it’s just as effective. The differences in open world are minimal.
Plus OP asked for maximizing healing as well. Which means traiting for druid (you left that out).
Builds listed are literally templates. If the OP wants to change anything or leave out X or Y he will do so. I’m just pointing out logical solutions. There’s no point in crafting an ascended set and waste 400 gold for an open world content that you’ll have to replace for everything else, <sigh>… You can get the best DPS set of ascendeds (viper) with only a little more with results being literally the same.
You won’t notice a dmg difference in exploring areas. But with the Bleeder druid by kazi – you have Natural Stride (an extreme time efficiency while roaming in Tyria), that amazing bleed bomb (trap+seeds > torch) and you are fine to join any Raid, Dungeon or Fractal without hesitation. People are going to kick you on spot if you call yourself a rampager Ranger in difficult content or speed runs.
The difference being is I could go ingame right now and spend like 50g on trading post and completely outfit him. This leaves him with the option to salvage each piece and replace them as he goes with sinister or viper pieces down the road while also trying to figure out if he even wants to play condi ranger long-term to warrant the viper/ascended investment.
Your build he could spend a month setting up just the exotics and/or spend +60g just for the viper armor compared to rampager armor. If he goes the ascended route later he loses out on that 60g. Talk about wasted resources.
Sometimes the difference between a great build and a “not viable anywhere cause not vetted by tragic” build is the ability to equip it within a reasonable cost/timeframe and still be effective in the areas specified by the person asking for it.
As for the OP saying healing, lol come on tragic…
Even you know healing in open world and healing power is near lolworthy. But don’t let that fact stop you from throwing that in as an argument.
It’s still a huge waste of resources. Thousandfold more so with crafting an ascended rampager set.
Lmao.
You realize the most efficient way to create viper ascended is by making something other than viper ascended and converting it right? Ya know like maybe Rampagers.
It’s still a huge waste of resources. Thousandfold more so with crafting an ascended rampager set.
Lmao.
You realize the most efficient way to create viper ascended is by making something other than viper ascended and converting it right? Ya know like maybe Rampagers.
You can get the best DPS set of ascendeds (viper) with only a little more with results being literally the same.
You are not really helping the OP with anything, I’m afraid. He already has your suggestion and my opinion why should he not.
Why would you get so deep in the topic? I know what you mean. But I’m not sure if you get an idea of my point.
It’s still a huge waste of resources. Thousandfold more so with crafting an ascended rampager set.
Lmao.
You realize the most efficient way to create viper ascended is by making something other than viper ascended and converting it right? Ya know like maybe Rampagers.
You can get the best DPS set of ascendeds (viper) with only a little more with results being literally the same.
You are not really helping the OP with anything, I’m afraid. He already has your suggestion and my opinion why should he not.
Why would you get so deep in the topic? I know what you mean. But I’m not sure if you get an idea of my point.
-The guy said tyria open world explorer.
-You went full blown ascended viper gear.
-I offered a more realistic option.
-You got offended and called me trash.
-I got offended and said your government spending solution was rediculous.
-You bring up raiding and speed runs.
-I inform you that to get your ascended viper’s it is more efficient to convert ascended Rampagers.
-You realize you lost this fight and try to save face by trying to bargain for truce from a weaker position.
-I laugh and go back to playing my ascended rampager gear stacked build.
That is how this thread devolved into this tragic mess.
What i don’t understand: Why would you focus that much on (wasted) bleed duration with full viper when you can get to + 100% duration for all condis with nightmare/trapper runes and malice sigil and take geomancy sigil for even more aoe condi application? Krait rune + agony sigil make more sense with sinister, rampager or rabid gear.
And i would rather use fire and poison trap instead of spike trap and sharpening stone.
Btw, i made ascended viper’s weapons + armor just for soloing stuff (including dunkeons/fractals) and open world PvE – why not :P
What i don’t understand: Why would you focus that much on (wasted) bleed duration with full viper when you can get to + 100% duration for all condis with nightmare/trapper runes and malice sigil and take geomancy sigil for even more aoe condi application? Krait rune + agony sigil make more sense with sinister, rampager or rabid gear.
And i would rather use fire and poison trap instead of spike trap and sharpening stone.
Btw, i made ascended viper’s weapons + armor just for soloing stuff (including dunkeons/fractals) and open world PvE – why not :P
That’s because I haven’t checked that before – which is my fault.
The poison and fire traps are just as good as spike trap. I just preferred the synergy with Ancient Seeds.
I’ll go correct it, thanks.
