Lol, the forums are freaking out on me right now…not sure if anyone can see this post. If a mod see’s this can you delete my duplicate post?
Here is my Bleeding Hearts Build in action. The first half was against two servers I don’t remember. Then I took a break for the FS champ trains. Did that for days……The second half is against our current matchup: IoJ and BP. There are some great players on those two servers. Was a lot of fun making this video.
Yeah, those bleeder builds are a lot of fun when you catch people off guard. I consider it like a thief catching someone off guard because it has so much burst. I’m running Rampager’s armor with perplexity runes. Celestial trinkets and Celestial weapons along with +40% condition and condi oil food.
I tried longbow on a condi build, but it didn’t feel good for me. When I was playing round with a bleeding build I ran a lynx with rending attacks, might on crit and a shortbow. If I could get shortbow 4 and lynx F2 off in a combo, with sharpening stone most people just crapped their pants right there. Was fun, but didn’t have enough defense. Maybe I’ll give that another try… and get my rabid longbow out. Nice vid.
Yeah, those bleeder builds are a lot of fun when you catch people off guard. I consider it like a thief catching someone off guard because it has so much burst. I’m running Rampager’s armor with perplexity runes. Celestial trinkets and Celestial weapons along with +40% condition and condi oil food.
Ahh, I knew you had to have Power in the build, and had to have crit, and your condition damage was fine, but the HP was about 3k higher then the full Rampager Gear I run.
Yea the Rampager Build is hilarious, Offhand Horn can kitten near put 25 stacks of bleeds on someone if you pop sharpening stone.
I’ve killed quite a few people with that setup, It was actually what I was using for zerging before they nerfed Sharpening Stone and Barrage (use to be able to nail the whole zerg with it)
really nice video, i wonder if this build can work in sPvP too..
You know, I haven’t done any dedicated sPvP in a while, but I am curious as well. I’ll see if I can get a setup that is close to the PvE/WvW version. The only problem might be the foods. Having an extra 40% Condition duration is huge.
I was trying to figure out the reason behind your choice to use perplexity runes… can you explain that please?
There are a number of other Condition based runes out there, but I like the Perplexity runes because of LB #4. And being able to proc another condition that isn’t common from Rangers, throws people off guard.
Really interesting build, do you think there is a version without celestial that would work?
Reason I’m asking is because I want to try out a build that utilizes both power and bleed damage for roaming and only have enough charged crystals for a few celestial pieces (Laurels aren’t really an option either as I’ve spent most of those as well).
Speaking of which, I really wish they removed the charged crystal requirement for celestial and just made it some other thing I could buy/farm.
Also just noticed, If I swap my traits to ones like yours then the build I’m running has the same stats with 3 less ascended pieces and no signet of stone
Really interesting build, do you think there is a version without celestial that would work?
Reason I’m asking is because I want to try out a build that utilizes both power and bleed damage for roaming and only have enough charged crystals for a few celestial pieces (Laurels aren’t really an option either as I’ve spent most of those as well).
Speaking of which, I really wish they removed the charged crystal requirement for celestial and just made it some other thing I could buy/farm.
See the post right below yours. Poliswag was able to come up with the same build, but using less Celestial items.
I knew when I posted this build that a lot of people would’nt be able to test it because of the time gated Celestial items. I was hoping that there would be a few people who already had the charged crystals/gear made. And it looks like there have been a few people able to test it out with success.
Also just noticed, If I swap my traits to ones like yours then the build I’m running has the same stats with 3 less ascended pieces and no signet of stone
Thanks for that min/max alternative. I know a lot of people don’t have the time to get those charged crystals. Hopefully this alternative build can help a few people out.
Been having lots of fun with the initial build. I modified it a bit to suit my own personal playstyle. I ended up using traveler runes instead of perplexity. I simply feel like having only 1 interrupt is too few to make it worthwhile and the bonuses from travelers and the move speed is too good.
I also use Sharpening stone, Muddy Terrain for the cc and lightning reflexes for the evade and stunbreak. I set the -20% to surival skills trait to reduce all these as well.
And instead of axe/wh, i switched to sword/dagger for the multi evades (+ lightning reflexes) and because I like it more when I have to get up close and personal.
I actually don’t feel like a PoS using perplexity with only 1 interrupt in a build. I think it’s. Fair game on rangers, and chances are the perplexity nerf will hit the classes that can spam interrupts and barely, if at all, scratch us.
Ranger is my latest 80 and love the idea of this build and am wandering if it still works (i don’t know much about how patches since may have changed it).
Ranger is my latest 80 and love the idea of this build and am wandering if it still works (i don’t know much about how patches since may have changed it).
thanks.
Hey ceejay, everything still works. Take note that tomorrow Perplexity Runes are changing a little bit. But with the minimal amount of interrupts the Ranger can dish, it won’t hinder this build at all.
Keep in mind this build isn’t like the common regen/beast master build. If you get focused, you’ll go down. This build is more about catching people off guard and spiking them down from a distance. Good luck!
Shortbow has higher rate of fire and you can easily bleed-bomb your enemy with poison valley + sharp. stone. Make sure your opponent has at least 3 conditions before using entangle and it will really hurt.
When fighting against thieves, use entangle when they shadow refugee. For mesmers it can be quite good if you can hit 5 targets (clones or mesmer) because the vines can re-immobilise anyone that walks into them.
(Edit: Btw, this build has double bleeding duration)
(Edit2: The sigil of agony can be changed to something else because currently it gives 20% wasted duration. Or you could take the trait points from MM and dump it into BM for might/vigor, or something else to increase your own survival, like evasive purity)
Uhmm, u tested the spvp version, I admit it is a lot of fun, But my pet dies really quickly in some cases, thats why i was asking you If a BM variant is possible with the same weapon sets, LB is so good with the stacking bleeds.
@Solrik
Thats the build i used before altho no MM i spent 4 in BM. But if i still wanna use LB, i would need that 200 in power stats in MM right? so yea, anyway to build a BM build without changing much the orginal build?
Uhmm, u tested the spvp version, I admit it is a lot of fun, But my pet dies really quickly in some cases, thats why i was asking you If a BM variant is possible with the same weapon sets, LB is so good with the stacking bleeds.
Are you using dual Drakes? Because they don’t fast. Besides, most of your damage is coming from the Ranger. The pet is there to block projectiles for stomps etc.
As for a more BM type build, unless you make drastic changes you won’t be able to pull it off. Right now its designed to condition bomb your opponent and do some decent raw damage. If you start taking points out of the Marksmanship or Skirmishing lines, your damage will go down. Your only alternative is to take points out of the Wilderness Survival line and throw them into the Beastmastery line. But then you’ll lose your condi removal as well as Toughness.
Uhmm, u tested the spvp version, I admit it is a lot of fun, But my pet dies really quickly in some cases, thats why i was asking you If a BM variant is possible with the same weapon sets, LB is so good with the stacking bleeds.
Are you using dual Drakes? Because they don’t fast. Besides, most of your damage is coming from the Ranger. The pet is there to block projectiles for stomps etc.
As for a more BM type build, unless you make drastic changes you won’t be able to pull it off. Right now its designed to condition bomb your opponent and do some decent raw damage. If you start taking points out of the Marksmanship or Skirmishing lines, your damage will go down. Your only alternative is to take points out of the Wilderness Survival line and throw them into the Beastmastery line. But then you’ll lose your condi removal as well as Toughness.
It’ll make your pets a little stronger, they’ll have about the same amount of crit chance you have w/o fury, and will cause bleeding on critical hits.
You lose Ranger power, the “Keen Edge” trait, some precision (only 7%), and vulnerability stacks. You gain 200 power in your pets attacks, pet swapping 20% recharge, and might on pet swap.
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
Uhmm, u tested the spvp version, I admit it is a lot of fun, But my pet dies really quickly in some cases, thats why i was asking you If a BM variant is possible with the same weapon sets, LB is so good with the stacking bleeds.
Are you using dual Drakes? Because they don’t fast. Besides, most of your damage is coming from the Ranger. The pet is there to block projectiles for stomps etc.
As for a more BM type build, unless you make drastic changes you won’t be able to pull it off. Right now its designed to condition bomb your opponent and do some decent raw damage. If you start taking points out of the Marksmanship or Skirmishing lines, your damage will go down. Your only alternative is to take points out of the Wilderness Survival line and throw them into the Beastmastery line. But then you’ll lose your condi removal as well as Toughness.
It’ll make your pets a little stronger, they’ll have about the same amount of crit chance you have w/o fury, and will cause bleeding on critical hits.
You lose Ranger power, the “Keen Edge” trait, some precision (only 7%), and vulnerability stacks. You gain 200 power in your pets attacks, pet swapping 20% recharge, and might on pet swap.
That definitely looks like an option StickerHappy can try out that might work.
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Keep in mind that you will have 60% Condition Duration so the procs from Sigil of Earth jump to 8 second bleeds. But if you want to use a different Sigil, try Sigil of Torment.
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Keep in mind that you will have 60% Condition Duration so the procs from Sigil of Earth jump to 8 second bleeds. But if you want to use a different Sigil, try Sigil of Torment.
Oh i forgot to mention, this is for the spvp build. :p sorry
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Keep in mind that you will have 60% Condition Duration so the procs from Sigil of Earth jump to 8 second bleeds. But if you want to use a different Sigil, try Sigil of Torment.
Oh i forgot to mention, this is for the spvp build. :p sorry
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Keep in mind that you will have 60% Condition Duration so the procs from Sigil of Earth jump to 8 second bleeds. But if you want to use a different Sigil, try Sigil of Torment.
Oh i forgot to mention, this is for the spvp build. :p sorry
For sPvP, Generosity, Energy, Leeching or Earth
For WvW, is perplexity still viable post rune fix?
Sigil of Earth is wasted on S/Wh because you will apply 2 stacks at max and fighting with sword doesn’t grant many hits on the enemy. It’s better if you go with geomancy for longer and more bleeds.
I agree with you on this one, but if i had geomancy on axe, any other sigils you suggest OP or solrik?
Keep in mind that you will have 60% Condition Duration so the procs from Sigil of Earth jump to 8 second bleeds. But if you want to use a different Sigil, try Sigil of Torment.
Oh i forgot to mention, this is for the spvp build. :p sorry
You can also try using healing spring instead of TU because it can give you around 8.2k direct healing with the leap and blast finishers. Plus you also get the added benefit of more cleansing and regen for the whole team that is fighting on point. Combo that with Barrage on the spring and you can safely run around in healing spring. On top of that, rapid fire can also combo with the spring and give you on average 4 seconds of regen per use.
Oh and if you have two drakes than double the fun. Have them both on passive and use them to blast → swap → blast the spring for 2.6k extra hp. After that you can just let them attack everything.
More on top of that, allies can also blast it. I mean, you have already healed everyone for 3.8k hp and cleansed their conditons, they can’t complain about anything.
(Note: that 3.8k would be heaven for a thief friend )
yes i tried your suggestion and it worked pretty good as long my teamates know what to do,. btw, i asked the op this too, any alternative for krait? I feel like its too generic. haha.
Was fun, but didn’t have enough defense. Maybe I’ll give that another try… and get my rabid longbow out. Nice vid.