Guild Wars 2

If Druid healing is too strong, is healing on other classes going to be buffed too? Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t know if it’s really too strong and I’m not saying it’a a bad thing. I like that the berserker meta is going to die and more diversity is coming. I like healer builds and I like Druid.

What would be bad is if Druids are going to be mandatory for raids. I’d like other professions to be able to replace Druids. I don’t want to log on my Ranger because the party needs the strongest healer.

I don’t mind Druid being too strong as healer. It’s an healer elite spec after all.
But I’d like Ventari Rev to be able to replace it, or cleric Guardians, or Water Eles. Are those going to disappear because of Druid?

Irenio say druid is THE massive healling spec and want it to be pretty needed in WvW and raids so i think druid will stay THE healer of GW2. Rev ventari being a small healer for support Druid heals or heal when there is no druids. Others classes have not abilities to direct heal in battlefield so i compare with that two. Druid outshine clearly the Rev and it seems it’s going to be the new meta in raids and WvW.
Edit: Water elem have the ability to heal two but it’s far away from ventari rev. So it’s going to be support healing in battlefield but clearly can’t compete with Druid who is gonna to become THE healer. They are not going to disapear and they can provide some needed healing in some situations but Druid just do it way better.

I don’t think that’s what they want: https://twitter.com/RoyCronacher/status/647505334089576448
They don’t want it to be “better”, but just different. Spike vs sustain, raw heal vs utility and boons.

Plus Colin said multiple times that they don’t want situations like “we need a XXX, kick the YYY”, or “we need XXX, so we have to wait” to happen. They want all classes to be able to spec into more then 1 role.

So if Rangers are mandatory than it’s bad. Also for rangers, because they’ll always going to be forced to play druids if no other class can replace them.

A healing focused Guard is still gonna push some nice numbers and mix in Aegis which Druid is completely lacking. Honestly the two will be highly complimentary…

And raw heals on a mantra-heal Mesmer are INSANE, not that anyone ever plays it in that configuration.

Tempest heal potential is already massive. Engi can pull off a Hybrid condi/heal build like a boss. Guardian heal is the most reliable due to survivablity. Druid is just going to add another spec for healing. Drew up a Tempest’s heal potential on a notepad. Yeah, its broken. Passive heal with max heal possible including benevolence boosts (Outgoing Healing effectiveness for those not aware) Soothing mists with boosted GM trait: 731/s. Regen 500/s Overcharge water: 4 pulses of 702 and a final of 6615. Wash the pain away 6000 on a 360~ radius. Water Warhorn 4 3163 heal, Warhorn 5 —> Dagger 3 healing blast combo total heal (all pulses plus blast) 7610 heal. As you can see, Druids not the only healer. Engi isnt nearly as effective, but offers more cleanse and converts, while putting out dps. Guardian gives Control/Healing. I really dont see Druid being the End all Be all healer.

I know they’re not the only healers, that’s my whole point. I don’t want other healers to disappear.

Also I already posted in the merged thread that druids don’t have much condi cleanse (except via trait, but it maybe has icd) and have almost 0 boons.

However if their heal is too strong, they have the potential to make other clerics useless and become mandatory (like 1 druid and all zerker, just an example of course, rip zerker).

Zerker is going to die. its been confirmed. However, there are stat combinations that go well with zerker or are Zerker like. Take Cavalier/Assassin sets. you get toughness, and you still have max Ferocity while maintaining decent power and crit. Cav/Assassin Warrior GS dmg is still pretty good. with buffs like Sharpening stones and power food you might as well be zerker.

This is one of the main problems with the extreme tunnel vision of this spec. Why are you going to bring in a druid who is spamming out heals when your party will will include plenty of classes providing multiple kinds of support.

You could have a Guardian thorwing out some passive heals while applying aegis, blinds, reflects and condi cleanse and stab while doing decent damage, a Chrono who can spam MoP and shatters with the heal traits and their aoe heal well while also providing reflects, condi cleanse party wide cooldown reduction and quickness as well as a rev who can sit in ventari for when the healing is needed then swap to Shiro or Glint for better damage and other types of support.

Those 3 will provide more then enough group healing that a druid will be pointless and all 3 will be providing other things to the group as well.

Thats the whole point. The dev’s all wanted Druid to be the heal spec. but thats all its gonna do. Sure, you could go Apothecary shortbow/staff and do some condi, but thats not enough in my eyes to earn a raid spot. The healing tempest earns its spot for frontline AOE healing/cleansing while offering the utility of Protection/aura’s on command with shouts. Even the healing engi earns its spot because, like most engi builds, can turn on a dime from one thing to the next with kit swapping. P/P grenade medkit, elixer gun, elixer R with Mortar has cleanses, rezz, condi, condi converts, aoe healing and fields. Go Alchemy/Firearms/Tools or Inventions. Both of these specs earn their spot due to almost overwhelming utility and overall survivability. Druid right now just doesnt bring enough to the table.

Kidel.2057:

So if Rangers are mandatory than it’s bad.

Nope because until this announcement it has been drop ranger the class is useless.

A lot of people forget that engi, ele,guard and rev all have decent healing I think you’ll be able to get away without using a druid. I think ranger finally be in demand for groups when the curve is steep at first. After people adapt I think it wont be needed that much for pve.

WvW though druid is going to be sooo fun.

Eval.2371:

WvW though druid is going to be sooo fun.

Maybe if you want to stroke your kitten for some useless GvG fights, everywhere else though you are going to get 0 credit for how you heal your zerg in WvW.

Levetty.1279:

This is one of the main problems with the extreme tunnel vision of this spec. Why are you going to bring in a druid who is spamming out heals when your party will will include plenty of classes providing multiple kinds of support.

You could have a Guardian thorwing out some passive heals while applying aegis, blinds, reflects and condi cleanse and stab while doing decent damage, a Chrono who can spam MoP and shatters with the heal traits and their aoe heal well while also providing reflects, condi cleanse party wide cooldown reduction and quickness as well as a rev who can sit in ventari for when the healing is needed then swap to Shiro or Glint for better damage and other types of support.

Those 3 will provide more then enough group healing that a druid will be pointless and all 3 will be providing other things to the group as well.

because none of them not specced into Healing will heal as well as a single Druid.

Healing stats will be made important in HoT.

Also part of the raid will have tank members. Only 10 slots.

likely 2 tanks and 2 healers, and all else berserker DPS and other forms of hybrids.

Knighthonor.4061:

Levetty.1279:

This is one of the main problems with the extreme tunnel vision of this spec. Why are you going to bring in a druid who is spamming out heals when your party will will include plenty of classes providing multiple kinds of support.

You could have a Guardian thorwing out some passive heals while applying aegis, blinds, reflects and condi cleanse and stab while doing decent damage, a Chrono who can spam MoP and shatters with the heal traits and their aoe heal well while also providing reflects, condi cleanse party wide cooldown reduction and quickness as well as a rev who can sit in ventari for when the healing is needed then swap to Shiro or Glint for better damage and other types of support.

Those 3 will provide more then enough group healing that a druid will be pointless and all 3 will be providing other things to the group as well.

because none of them not specced into Healing will heal as well as a single Druid.

Healing stats will be made important in HoT.

Also part of the raid will have tank members. Only 10 slots.

likely 2 tanks and 2 healers, and all else berserker DPS and other forms of hybrids.

The point is that those other classes (and ele and Engie) can throw out some heals while doing what they need to do that got them into the party in the first place. Lost of small heals even without healing power and everybodies self heal will add up and keep people alive, all druid provides is healing.

Compare it to the zerk meta, most build composistions don’t actually take the classes highest dps build, they swap out some damage for support that helps buff up the damage of the other classes. In the teams that do raids they will do the same with healing, swapping it out for support and damage to make the overall group work better.

All druid can provide is healing, its actually less complicated and thought out then the much maligned zerk meta.