Guild Wars 2

What do you fellow Rangers do again Condition heavy opponents?

The options just feel so limited…

Depends what your build is. You can bring more talents/abilities to counter this, but you can find out what those are from spending a few seconds looking at the talent tree.

Are you talking PvP or PvE? If it’s PvE, just swap in Sig of Renewal and use a brown bear. If it’s PvP, change your spec.

Compared to an Engineer or Mesmer however, the Ranger traits and skills for condition removals are absolutely horrendous. I’m getting absolutely demolished in PvP by condition based players as I don’t feel I can do anything about them.

Are you kidding me? The ranger has Empathic Bond, that clears ALL conditions every 10 seconds. That has got to be the best condition cleaner there is.

Rangers are pretty bad at removing conditions. Our most powerful condition remover is by far Empathic Bond, which requires 30 points in Wilderness Survival and transfers all conditions from you to your pet every 10 seconds. It is completely unreliable because you have no control over it, your pet has to be alive, and your pet also has to be close to you. But hey, it’s still the best thing we got.

The next best thing is probably Healing Spring. Every three seconds it removes a random condition. It’s a gamble, but it’s better than nothing.

What else have we got? We have Signet of Renewal, which is in my opinion the best signet rangers have, despite it being one of the WORST signets overall. It removes a single condition every 10 seconds and allows you to transfer all conditions to your pet every 60 seconds. In essence it’s a weaker version of Empathic Bonds.

Last but not least, we have the brown bear which can remove a single condition from you every 30 seconds (24 if traited into Beastmastery). That is pretty pathetic, but it’s the fourth and last measure we have against conditions.

All in all, we’re probably the worst class at removing conditions.

Welcome to the ranger class.

I disagree with agadar. Empathic bond is reliable, and by far the strongest condition remover of the game. It clears all conditions, it doesn’t even transfer it to your pet.
Also, the cooldowns of the brown bear reset with each pet swap, so you can use it every 15 secodns if traited in beastmastery.

I do agree however, that signet of renewal sucks.

How can you call it reliable in any way? Imagine Empathic Bond just ticked. One second after that tick, some necromancer dumps all of his conditions on you. And now you’re stuck with at least nine seconds of conditions, which is more than enough to take away a massive chunk of your health.

Empathic Bond is unreliable.

Should be noted that all of these things can be used at the same time, and signet of renewal not only removes your conditions, but everyone’s conditions around you it is a great utility.

1. empathic bond
2. signet of renewal
3. there is a trait that triggers regen when poisoned, bled etc.
4. another trait allows you to clear bleeding and blindness? i think on dodge roll
5. bear
6. healing spring

if you combine a couple of them + some healing it’s not that big of a problem

Perhaps I should give it a deeper look. I tend to use Bark Skin because the last time I went out and tested Empathetic Bond, I never saw it work.

I made sure it was the only condition removal I had.
I stood there with my pet on passive and let mobs attack me and put conditions on me while I kept myself alive.
I never saw a condition come off of me before it ran its course.

Are we sure it actually works? I was very disheartened by my testing, because in PvP it would be VEY powerful if it works the way it says it does.

ski.4927:

Perhaps I should give it a deeper look. I tend to use Bark Skin because the last time I went out and tested Empathetic Bond, I never saw it work.

I made sure it was the only condition removal I had.
I stood there with my pet on passive and let mobs attack me and put conditions on me while I kept myself alive.
I never saw a condition come off of me before it ran its course.

Are we sure it actually works? I was very disheartened by my testing, because in PvP it would be VEY powerful if it works the way it says it does.

It works.. Trust me. I tested out with a necro friend, and it cleared 7 conditions, that’s because we couldn’t time to see if didn’t clear more conditions.

Also, i think it is reliable because it clears ALL conditions every 10 seconds, so sure, a necro may dump all of his conditions on you after the tick, but there is no way he can know that so it will depend solely on luck. Besides, 10 seconds is pretty quick.

I will have to give this another honest shot then. Maybe I was impatient or something through my first test.

Does anyone know if empathic bond and signet of renewal tick at the exact same time? Or is there some way to get them to sort of alternate?

They don’t tick at the same time, it seems to me that signet of renewal ticks as soon as a condition comes to you, and empathic bond waits 4-5 seconds to start working.

Empathic Bond is great and all for Beastmaster builds, but what about the rest of us with prec/power/tough builds whose pets die regularly? Is Healing Spring the only good option?