Are you are one of those smart guys “if you don’t like the pet just reroll rifle warrior” ?^
Most players chose the ranger cos they like the class style, weapons, or they just like a nature-themed adventurer profession. These ppl were forced by anet to use a pet. Atm the ranger has no options at all, the class is a pet class, end of story. Personally i have no problem with pets in spvp or even pve (and i have been playing the class since release in tpvp, wvw and pve). The problem is in wvw, i hate my pet in wvw, especially while fighting a zerg with a small party. And no it’s not a l2p issue. They poorly implemented our pet mechanic, they should have tested it a bit more, it’s too late now. They should stop with this stupid “class philosophy” kitten and start reworking things. I’ve never seen a worst pet mechanic, it’s just that bad, lots of useless ugly pets nobody uses. Pigs really? Lol -yea let’s add tons of stupid pets so players can have fun collecting them, yea super c00l!!!11- No pet customization; all the pets i see around are named the same “juvenile kitten” cos you can’t even save your pet’s name after choosing a different one. Even the pet swap mechanic i think is really bad and poorly implemented -oh kitten the aoe spamming is killing my pet let’s summon the second one- The truth is they ruined the ranger class with their stupid “philosophy”. And what about you guys? What do you think?
I’ve spent a good ammount of gold in the last few months on different builds for ranger and I cant seem to find one I’m comfortable with. I’ve found a few that do really well at one thing but suck at anything else.
I Think if they changed the class mechanics (Pet) and perhaps made it so you have to trait to get a pet and if you don’t then you get the damage the pet takes from you added onto your own stats. Because right now the number one thing screwing with the rangers in actual combat is the pet, Mine to soooooooo often just run around get behind and enemy and then just follow them while they move while fighting. So in that situation the ranger which has reduced stats has to be very good to win a fight like that.
So I think the reason the ranger isn’t used to much in WvW (I see Guardians everywhere) is because they just are not very good for it. But I really really wish they were. It’s my favorite class. We just need that stupid pet out of the way so we can actually start using our class fully.
Then AN can start working on our traits which are a mess. Trapping skills are in Skirmishing. o_O they should be in Wilderness Survival. Wut :O
Edit: Before people say ‘But the Pet is the Rangers Mechanic’ It’s so broken it’s just pulling the class down. If we replaced the class mechanic with a crossbow then that would be cool. Very unique and fits into the class, the crossbow can be worked into the class in many ways and provide even further ranger but slow shots. I dunno just throwing things around but my point is there are soo many better things that could be used other than pets. and on that note wasn’t it arenanet that said they weren’t afraid to go back and completely redo something. Because ranger needs redoing
As much as I love ANet for a lot of things….
They did ruin the Ranger class. Plain and simple. I won’t get deep into my opinions because I’ve already made tons of suggestions this past year that have been ignored because of this ideal they have in their head about pets when, as cool as that idea may be, just is not practical.
Most players chose the ranger cos they like the class style, weapons, or they just like a nature-themed adventurer profession. These ppl were forced by anet to use a pet. Atm the ranger has no options at all, the class is a pet class, end of story. Personally i have no problem with pets in spvp or even pve (and i have been playing the class since release in tpvp, wvw and pve). The problem is in wvw, i hate my pet in wvw, especially while fighting a zerg with a small party. And no it’s not a l2p issue.
That’s really wrong… pet is a good help for us but not a necessary one, especially if you are using a power build. I did, that’s why, and my pet is only the cherry over my pie XD
They poorly implemented our pet mechanic, they should have tested it a bit more, it’s too late now. They should stop with this stupid “class philosophy” kitten and start reworking things. I’ve never seen a worst pet mechanic, it’s just that bad, lots of useless ugly pets nobody uses. Pigs really? Lol -yea let’s add tons of stupid pets so players can have fun collecting them, yea super c00l!!!11-
Obviously there will be leveling pets and end game pets… if you start to use ranger and you are lvl 10 a pig… is an appropiate pet! lol and also the ability to give you a random weapon is quite fine for leveling (low levels) because there are some hard hitting items…
No pet customization; all the pets i see around are named the same “juvenile kitten” cos you can’t even save your pet’s name after choosing a different one. Even the pet swap mechanic i think is really bad and poorly implemented -oh kitten the aoe spamming is killing my pet let’s summon the second one- The truth is they ruined the ranger class with their stupid “philosophy”. And what about you guys? What do you think?
No pet customization? Do you mean… to modify your pet appearance or skills?
In the first case this isn’t monster truck game so you can’t modify the body… in the second one… then consider that there are a lot of options… every pet with its abilities so you have only to chose. Also modify pet skills has no sense… do you imagine a pig launching lightining bolts… or an eagle with a fire breath… the only possible way to improve pet ability is to give us the possibility to choose between 3-4 similar attacks to use as f2 ability… but hey, will this change your opinion on ranger class?
There is a lot to do with rangers i know, everyone know, but just wait for devs to see what and how to do it.
Ranger means roamer, and thats how i play my class, I’ve noticed that when the fights get bigger i become more useless because my pet just dies and i lose DPS. also, the AI just sucks, i’ve been yelled at in HotW p2 at the part where you pull the 2 quaggan champs and my pet just randomly walks 900+ units forward pulling the other champ. a well trained pet will NEVER walk infront of their master, didn’t you guys watch the dog whisperer?
pic is my pet not obeying me and a wvw gate going crazy.
No pet customization? Do you mean… to modify your pet appearance or skills?
In the first case this isn’t monster truck game so you can’t modify the body… in the second one… then consider that there are a lot of options… every pet with its abilities so you have only to chose. Also modify pet skills has no sense… do you imagine a pig launching lightining bolts… or an eagle with a fire breath… the only possible way to improve pet ability is to give us the possibility to choose between 3-4 similar attacks to use as f2 ability… but hey, will this change your opinion on ranger class?
There is a lot to do with rangers i know, everyone know, but just wait for devs to see what and how to do it.
I just want to point out that modifying pet skills is exactly what we were supposed to be able to do. In beta video footage by the developers we had customizable skill slots for our pets to give them very customized uses. For an unknown reason, this was removed prior to launch.
Also, we’ve been waiting to see what the devs are going to do about our severely handicapped pets for a year now. I’m not exactly on the edge of my seat waiting for an answer anymore…
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I’ve spent a good ammount of gold in the last few months on different builds for ranger and I cant seem to find one I’m comfortable with. I’ve found a few that do really well at one thing but suck at anything else.
I Think if they changed the class mechanics (Pet) and perhaps made it so you have to trait to get a pet and if you don’t then you get the damage the pet takes from you added onto your own stats. Because right now the number one thing screwing with the rangers in actual combat is the pet, Mine to soooooooo often just run around get behind and enemy and then just follow them while they move while fighting. So in that situation the ranger which has reduced stats has to be very good to win a fight like that.
So I think the reason the ranger isn’t used to much in WvW (I see Guardians everywhere) is because they just are not very good for it. But I really really wish they were. It’s my favorite class. We just need that stupid pet out of the way so we can actually start using our class fully.
Then AN can start working on our traits which are a mess. Trapping skills are in Skirmishing. o_O they should be in Wilderness Survival. Wut :O
Edit: Before people say ‘But the Pet is the Rangers Mechanic’ It’s so broken it’s just pulling the class down. If we replaced the class mechanic with a crossbow then that would be cool. Very unique and fits into the class, the crossbow can be worked into the class in many ways and provide even further ranger but slow shots. I dunno just throwing things around but my point is there are soo many better things that could be used other than pets. and on that note wasn’t it arenanet that said they weren’t afraid to go back and completely redo something. Because ranger needs redoing
Why did you use this (What I wrote) and not quote me?
I hear you OP… And recently there are issues with the Jubilee bosses and pets dying instantly hampering our ability to complete some of the bosses.
At this point, I would settle for a pet ability to simply dodge when we dodge or an option to do this, so we can “save” our pets in certain circumstances even if it means it eats one of our Dodge’s, or give us more than 2, let us have 4 to make up for having to dodge our pet as well as ourselves.
If the pet is meant to be the core mechanic of the ranger and how the ranger works, why does the ranger damage get reduced!
THE RANGER IS BEING PUNISHED. I don’t see Mesmers health getting lowered every time they spawn an illusion, in fact thiefs get rewarded when they cloak!
Rangers should be someone you don’t want to run into in wvw, a class that can completely surprise you and make you panic and run into traps and if you try to run away can hunt you down.
When fighting them you should be on the tip of your tips and have be alert for any surprises they might throw at you.
Not a class you see and think… Hey look. Loot…
Edit: Right now I’m trying to go a dungeon. I’ve been denied access to about 4 groups now all of them saying but we want to do the dungeon quickly.
I’ve spent a good ammount of gold in the last few months on different builds for ranger and I cant seem to find one I’m comfortable with. I’ve found a few that do really well at one thing but suck at anything else.
I Think if they changed the class mechanics (Pet) and perhaps made it so you have to trait to get a pet and if you don’t then you get the damage the pet takes from you added onto your own stats. Because right now the number one thing screwing with the rangers in actual combat is the pet, Mine to soooooooo often just run around get behind and enemy and then just follow them while they move while fighting. So in that situation the ranger which has reduced stats has to be very good to win a fight like that.
So I think the reason the ranger isn’t used to much in WvW (I see Guardians everywhere) is because they just are not very good for it. But I really really wish they were. It’s my favorite class. We just need that stupid pet out of the way so we can actually start using our class fully.
Then AN can start working on our traits which are a mess. Trapping skills are in Skirmishing. o_O they should be in Wilderness Survival. Wut :O
Edit: Before people say ‘But the Pet is the Rangers Mechanic’ It’s so broken it’s just pulling the class down. If we replaced the class mechanic with a crossbow then that would be cool. Very unique and fits into the class, the crossbow can be worked into the class in many ways and provide even further ranger but slow shots. I dunno just throwing things around but my point is there are soo many better things that could be used other than pets. and on that note wasn’t it arenanet that said they weren’t afraid to go back and completely redo something. Because ranger needs redoing
Why did you use this (What I wrote) and not quote me?
Sorry mate I’ m not very used to forums really sorry but I wanted to underline that i totally agree with every single words you wrote
If the pet is meant to be the core mechanic of the ranger and how the ranger works, why does the ranger damage get reduced!
THE RANGER IS BEING PUNISHED. I don’t see Mesmers health getting lowered every time they spawn an illusion, in fact thiefs get rewarded when they cloak!
Rangers should be someone you don’t want to run into in wvw, a class that can completely surprise you and make you panic and run into traps and if you try to run away can hunt you down.
When fighting them you should be on the tip of your tips and have be alert for any surprises they might throw at you.
Not a class you see and think… Hey look. Loot…
Edit: Right now I’m trying to go a dungeon. I’ve been denied access to about 4 groups now all of them saying but we want to do the dungeon quickly.
Developpers read this and start working on ranger..and by working i mean not NERFING
Ranger means roamer, and thats how i play my class, I’ve noticed that when the fights get bigger i become more useless because my pet just dies and i lose DPS. also, the AI just sucks, i’ve been yelled at in HotW p2 at the part where you pull the 2 quaggan champs and my pet just randomly walks 900+ units forward pulling the other champ. a well trained pet will NEVER walk infront of their master, didn’t you guys watch the dog whisperer?
pic is my pet not obeying me and a wvw gate going crazy.
Pets can’t aggro something the party hasn’t already aggroed. I’m not certain of the specifics, but at the very least, if your whole part stops at the water in HotW and you aren’t in combat, no matter where the pet is, it won’t aggro something unless it attacks it.
The only part I’m uncertain of, is if mobs have shared aggro. By this I mean, if you send in a pet to attack the Nightmare Tree in F/U, will it aggro all the spiders if it hits the tree? Not that it would matter for that encounter anyway (the pet will die from the tree’s attacks in no time) but the specifics of the new pet aggro are still a slight mystery to me.
1) There are only enemy players for your pet too attack, nothing else, so it can’t go wrong.
2) Its a balanced setting, which means damage is balanced so your pet can tank, especially as you can pet swap.
Those 2 things don’t exist in PvE and WvW, where your pet just gets blown away by any serious damage and often get distracted by any passing moa, wolf or just about anything really…
I think it’s pretty sad for the class that it’s dps is only on par in melee and when the pet is alive. However, it is nice in an organized group with the Sword/warhorn glass spec. Too bad most pugs are still bumming around on bear pets and longbows.
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Ehm….the first part of the OP is a copy/paste of one of my posts in another topic. But np. Tbh i gave up, i suppose some of the devs have realized how bad they designed the ranger class in this game. Oh my miss my gw1 ranger soooo much. The only good thing they added in gw2 are bowstrings lol.
1) There are only enemy players for your pet too attack, nothing else, so it can’t go wrong.
2) Its a balanced setting, which means damage is balanced so your pet can tank, especially as you can pet swap.
Those 2 things don’t exist in PvE and WvW, where your pet just gets blown away by any serious damage and often get distracted by any passing moa, wolf or just about anything really…
Mmm depends on what you mean for “working well”. I’ve a lot of experience in spvp as a ranger. Well yea i think pets are somehow balanced there atm, but still pet mechanic in this game sucks. I consider having my pet in spvp a big advantage tbh. Lol i remember before pets nerf i could just stand on a point and send my raven all over the map, and lol i could see that little kitten critting like a baws. Good old times.
As much as I love ANet for a lot of things….
They did ruin the Ranger class. Plain and simple. I won’t get deep into my opinions because I’ve already made tons of suggestions this past year that have been ignored because of this ideal they have in their head about pets when, as cool as that idea may be, just is not practical.
Oh yea i remember the detailed post you wrote full of good suggestions. It’s so sad you put lots of time into writing that and not a single dev answered. They could have said at least “thanks for your suggestions, we will take that into consideration”.
No pet customization? Do you mean… to modify your pet appearance or skills?
In the first case this isn’t monster truck game so you can’t modify the body… in the second one… then consider that there are a lot of options… every pet with its abilities so you have only to chose. Also modify pet skills has no sense… do you imagine a pig launching lightining bolts… or an eagle with a fire breath… the only possible way to improve pet ability is to give us the possibility to choose between 3-4 similar attacks to use as f2 ability… but hey, will this change your opinion on ranger class?
There is a lot to do with rangers i know, everyone know, but just wait for devs to see what and how to do it.
I just want to point out that modifying pet skills is exactly what we were supposed to be able to do. In beta video footage by the developers we had customizable skill slots for our pets to give them very customized uses. For an unknown reason, this was removed prior to launch.
Also, we’ve been waiting to see what the devs are going to do about our severely handicapped pets for a year now. I’m not exactly on the edge of my seat waiting for an answer anymore…
I think the issue is, the developers didn’t want our profession mechanic to be more complex than other profession mechanics. So they gutted it and left us the crusty, empty shell.
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Pets can’t aggro something the party hasn’t already aggroed. I’m not certain of the specifics, but at the very least, if your whole part stops at the water in HotW and you aren’t in combat, no matter where the pet is, it won’t aggro something unless it attacks it.
The only part I’m uncertain of, is if mobs have shared aggro. By this I mean, if you send in a pet to attack the Nightmare Tree in F/U, will it aggro all the spiders if it hits the tree? Not that it would matter for that encounter anyway (the pet will die from the tree’s attacks in no time) but the specifics of the new pet aggro are still a slight mystery to me.
My pet was on passive because i was told to do so and it still aggro’d the champ, to my knowledge pet aggro is the same as normal aggro.
I’ve spent a good ammount of gold in the last few months on different builds for ranger and I cant seem to find one I’m comfortable with. I’ve found a few that do really well at one thing but suck at anything else.
I Think if they changed the class mechanics (Pet) and perhaps made it so you have to trait to get a pet and if you don’t then you get the damage the pet takes from you added onto your own stats. Because right now the number one thing screwing with the rangers in actual combat is the pet, Mine to soooooooo often just run around get behind and enemy and then just follow them while they move while fighting. So in that situation the ranger which has reduced stats has to be very good to win a fight like that.
So I think the reason the ranger isn’t used to much in WvW (I see Guardians everywhere) is because they just are not very good for it. But I really really wish they were. It’s my favorite class. We just need that stupid pet out of the way so we can actually start using our class fully.
Then AN can start working on our traits which are a mess. Trapping skills are in Skirmishing. o_O they should be in Wilderness Survival. Wut :O
Edit: Before people say ‘But the Pet is the Rangers Mechanic’ It’s so broken it’s just pulling the class down. If we replaced the class mechanic with a crossbow then that would be cool. Very unique and fits into the class, the crossbow can be worked into the class in many ways and provide even further ranger but slow shots. I dunno just throwing things around but my point is there are soo many better things that could be used other than pets. and on that note wasn’t it arenanet that said they weren’t afraid to go back and completely redo something. Because ranger needs redoing
Why did you use this (What I wrote) and not quote me?
Sorry mate I’ m not very used to forums really sorry but I wanted to underline that i totally agree with every single words you wrote
Ha dw about it. : )
I was mad when I wrote that about ranger and stuff. But it’s true needs to be fixed soon otherwise it wont be at all. :\
I’ve spent a good ammount of gold in the last few months on different builds for ranger and I cant seem to find one I’m comfortable with. I’ve found a few that do really well at one thing but suck at anything else.
I Think if they changed the class mechanics (Pet) and perhaps made it so you have to trait to get a pet and if you don’t then you get the damage the pet takes from you added onto your own stats. Because right now the number one thing screwing with the rangers in actual combat is the pet, Mine to soooooooo often just run around get behind and enemy and then just follow them while they move while fighting. So in that situation the ranger which has reduced stats has to be very good to win a fight like that.
So I think the reason the ranger isn’t used to much in WvW (I see Guardians everywhere) is because they just are not very good for it. But I really really wish they were. It’s my favorite class. We just need that stupid pet out of the way so we can actually start using our class fully.
Then AN can start working on our traits which are a mess. Trapping skills are in Skirmishing. o_O they should be in Wilderness Survival. Wut :O
Edit: Before people say ‘But the Pet is the Rangers Mechanic’ It’s so broken it’s just pulling the class down. If we replaced the class mechanic with a crossbow then that would be cool. Very unique and fits into the class, the crossbow can be worked into the class in many ways and provide even further ranger but slow shots. I dunno just throwing things around but my point is there are soo many better things that could be used other than pets. and on that note wasn’t it arenanet that said they weren’t afraid to go back and completely redo something. Because ranger needs redoing
Why did you use this (What I wrote) and not quote me?
Sorry mate I’ m not very used to forums really sorry but I wanted to underline that i totally agree with every single words you wrote
Ha dw about it. : )
I was mad when I wrote that about ranger and stuff. But it’s true needs to be fixed soon otherwise it wont be at all. :\
Cross thingers mate..but they have just ruined the class..I don’ t think that such devs..could do better….:PP
Pets can’t aggro something the party hasn’t already aggroed. I’m not certain of the specifics, but at the very least, if your whole part stops at the water in HotW and you aren’t in combat, no matter where the pet is, it won’t aggro something unless it attacks it.
The only part I’m uncertain of, is if mobs have shared aggro. By this I mean, if you send in a pet to attack the Nightmare Tree in F/U, will it aggro all the spiders if it hits the tree? Not that it would matter for that encounter anyway (the pet will die from the tree’s attacks in no time) but the specifics of the new pet aggro are still a slight mystery to me.
My pet was on passive because i was told to do so and it still aggro’d the champ, to my knowledge pet aggro is the same as normal aggro.
Pets used to not draw aggro from npcs they hadn’t attacked, they fixed it a patch or two ago because people were using it to kill npcs in wvw camps and such.
As much as I love ANet for a lot of things….
They did ruin the Ranger class. Plain and simple. I won’t get deep into my opinions because I’ve already made tons of suggestions this past year that have been ignored because of this ideal they have in their head about pets when, as cool as that idea may be, just is not practical.
Oh yea i remember the detailed post you wrote full of good suggestions. It’s so sad you put lots of time into writing that and not a single dev answered. They could have said at least “thanks for your suggestions, we will take that into consideration”.
That was a rather short one compared to other things I’ve written throughout the forums sadly. I stopped about halfway through the one you recall because I just gave up knowing it never happen, get a response, or even a decent conversation on it.
I hope and I pray for the day I can perma-stow my pet. As I have said before I’m willing to bet my next pay check there are at least thousand other people who main rangers who want the same.
Would be nice if we could choose preparations or we could choose to be Beast Masters.
RNG is a bell curve. Better hope you’re on the right side.
I hope and I pray for the day I can perma-stow my pet. As I have said before I’m willing to bet my next pay check there are at least thousand other people who main rangers who want the same.
Would be nice if we could choose preparations or we could choose to be Beast Masters.
inb4 New ranger Grand-master trait- ‘You can stow your pet, but you move 30% slower.’
Calling it now. It’s the only way A-Net would feel good about giving us it.
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Pets can’t aggro something the party hasn’t already aggroed. I’m not certain of the specifics, but at the very least, if your whole part stops at the water in HotW and you aren’t in combat, no matter where the pet is, it won’t aggro something unless it attacks it.
The only part I’m uncertain of, is if mobs have shared aggro. By this I mean, if you send in a pet to attack the Nightmare Tree in F/U, will it aggro all the spiders if it hits the tree? Not that it would matter for that encounter anyway (the pet will die from the tree’s attacks in no time) but the specifics of the new pet aggro are still a slight mystery to me.
My pet was on passive because i was told to do so and it still aggro’d the champ, to my knowledge pet aggro is the same as normal aggro.
Pets used to not draw aggro from npcs they hadn’t attacked, they fixed it a patch or two ago because people were using it to kill npcs in wvw camps and such.
They still don’t draw Agro from things you haven’t agroed, I was using my pet in Arah to clear out the KD hands in the middle of 2 groups of Risen. Very useful!!
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