Guild Wars 2

So I was reviving my old ranger and I realized power is no good in PvE. Performs pretty poorly. So I slapped back my viper’s and stuff. A lot better as condi. I actually kinda like it now more then ever.

Anyway. Was wondering. Is condi ranger/druid any good in PvP or WvW? I would love to do some WvW on the similar build I run in PvE since I don’t like this micro-managment stuff with different armor sets and stuff.

Does any of you run condi ranger/druid in WvW or PvP?

zomgbuffalo.5276:

So I was reviving my old ranger and I realized power is no good in PvE. Performs pretty poorly. So I slapped back my viper’s and stuff. A lot better as condi. I actually kinda like it now more then ever.

Anyway. Was wondering. Is condi ranger/druid any good in PvP or WvW? I would love to do some WvW on the similar build I run in PvE since I don’t like this micro-managment stuff with different armor sets and stuff.

Does any of you run condi ranger/druid in WvW or PvP?

Condi Ranger/Druid was my main Condi build post HoT (with condi engi a close 2nd). Ive seen a lot of condi druids myself but only 1 maybe 2 were decent. The condi burst is real if you use traps (I was actually a SB/Axe+Torch). I tried staff and LB instead of one of my other weapon sets and still did very well.

I too used viper gear when I used LB and i did insane damage. I was squishy af but had some survivability from astral form and traits.

I wonder what instead of Viper could go well in WvW? Trailblazers or Dire? Or is there even a better option?

zomgbuffalo.5276:

I wonder what instead of Viper could go well in WvW? Trailblazers or Dire? Or is there even a better option?

If you want to go straight condi, Trailblazer is the best choice, however its not as easy to obtain so dire is still very doable.

Viper is good if you ant to do something like LB/Axe+torch (for example) but the tough/vit will help you last a bit longer. Your condis wont last as long as with TB gear, however you will have more overall tough/vit

I think having higher survivability is better since there are many bursty builds running around. Thanks. I will consider TB or Dire and maybe try it out. At least now I know I can pvp with the class and build I like.

zomgbuffalo.5276:

I think having higher survivability is better since there are many bursty builds running around. Thanks. I will consider TB or Dire and maybe try it out. At least now I know I can pvp with the class and build I like.

For PvP, I ran Wanderer’s trapper build (both druid and core) and rocked it all. Before Wanderers was around, I think I used rabid. Its easy finding team fights, drop traps and/or drop torch 4/5 in the middle and watch ppl drop or bail.

Got my champion title that way for my ranger

I think traps are not very good for ranger. If you are fighting anyone with half a brain in WvW they will not engage you close range if they know you are condi ranger due to traps. If they do that your traps are now useless and you are forced to close the distance rendering them wasted. Not a big deal in Spvp.

Wouldn’t be as much of an issue if we had more access to pulls like DH. No, I am not counting OH Axes path of scars because: a) its a power weapon b) its very unreliable with its super small hit area. Wish we could still throw traps.

Here’s my next Condi Build for WvW:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAsf3YjEqQHLWzCWsAVLWoEsmAQpKC4M5mAXO4e6RtpWi0rA-TFyCQBI7EAAgjAgQ2fogq/csHCAXU+RIlg1T/w7gDgraVraVwart2artWDY1VXd1VlCIz5WA-w

Keys:

-Heavy CC with ranger skills and pet choices
- Decent healing power for CA skills, good for group play or when you get spiked after burning TU
-Decent Boon Duration at 45%
-Multiple Condi Defense Layers CA – WK – Evasive Purity
-Decent Damage Reduction with respectable armor, decent Protection uptime and Knashblade Food
-Decent Condi dmg 2193 after corruption stacks and 5 stacks of might from Axe AA
- Okish Health at just under 20k

One big negative is low condi duration, it was sacrificed for more healing and other stats (IE boon duration).

Also no skirmishing means no super spike torch combos! No beast mastery means a somewhat squishier pet, gotta pay more attention to pet positioning (although the increased healing potential offsets this somewhat).

No good swiftness/Movement Speed Increase sources due to weapon/rune choices means we were forced to take natural stride instead of celestial shadow so no group/self stealths or superspeed. Only stealth option is leap finisher from monarch’s leap with sword into Pet smoke field. This can be hard to pull off under heavy pressure (CC) or if you lose track of your pet in chaotic situations.

Not as much condi spike/pressure but it offers more group support and healing potential with decent bunker power.

@GUFF, so you’re saying shortbow, with his incredible attack speed, is no good in PvP? I thought Shortbow would be king.

By the way, thanks for sharing this detailed build. It looks very interesting and it is something I would like to try out myself. Cheers.

I m melting things in pvp on this build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fn0rCtsglsCGsCUtgFDBrpDEsqawb1waZlJAsuaAlcsUA-TphAQB6rMQX2fYkPAgQeEAK5FAAAHEAA
Similar to my armor set wich is full vipers.
On wvw i m using also that one or the full power build depnding on my taste.

zomgbuffalo.5276:

@GUFF, so you’re saying shortbow, with his incredible attack speed, is no good in PvP? I thought Shortbow would be king.

By the way, thanks for sharing this detailed build. It looks very interesting and it is something I would like to try out myself. Cheers.

Short bow is fun, it’s fairly recent buffs help that’s for sure but I feel it works better with skirmishing trait line so you can pick up the light on your feet trait for even better short bow awesomeness.

Short bow also works better with crit chance and some on crit bleed but it’s hard to fit that in my build due to the healing power and boon duration/trait lines choices.

Short bow is a decent weapon in pvp buts needs a certain build/gear setup to enhance it.

Wilderness Survival trait line with the ambidextrous trait work way better with the weapons I had selected and provides more bunker type play.