Guild Wars 2

I am looking for help on how to build a condition/regen zerg ranger, i would like to use shortbow but i will take all suggestions. I got a settlers ascended weapon chest and wondering how to implement it in a build for wvw zergs. Thanks all.

condi in zergs is a bad idea (especially on ranger), use the weapon chest for a roaming build instead

Well can anyone point me into the direction with a correct build to zerg with a regen build ranger?

For zerg surfing you dont need regen, you need damage, longbow + read the wind and piercing arrows is cool.

But

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNMQNAT3XnMqQvg2vCusAVLGQToaHAZ6myqYdPBJ7DXwiK-T1BBwAYVGA4JAkVpHP1fIu/QKdDnVCSIgQTAA-w

I made a quick build, it’s fairly cheap to make and it has good toughness, good swiftness and regen and ok offensive stats.

Instead of Nature’s Bounty you can take Strength of Spirit for more power, you can switch Bark Skin to Empathic Bond if you feel overwhelmed by conditions, and the 10points in skirmishing you can switch to marksmanship and take Beastmasters Bond or Steady Focus.

Would this build work for roaming and zerg fights?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fjEq0ya7KWsQ1aAJhq9DEAr67ioWvVXZLA-TVBQwAeV/RouhTK/As/wTlgAA-w

Killjoy.9460:

Would this build work for roaming and zerg fights?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fjEq0ya7KWsQ1aAJhq9DEAr67ioWvVXZLA-TVBQwAeV/RouhTK/As/wTlgAA-w

Roaming and zerg fights are two completely different things. It would be like asking for advice on what car to buy. You like to cruise on the highway going 80 mph with the top down listening to tunes but you also need a car to handle transporting your wife and 4 kids.

Pets don’t work well in zergs. They insta die. So having 30 points in BM seems like a waste to me. Your weapons also only have 900 range. So you need to be close. Conditions will eat you up especially since you have zero for clears.

Roaming and 1v? I think that build looks pretty good…except for no movement speed.

If you’re truly looking for a regen/conditions build for WvW you need to understand how it works. Condition damage won’t do you too well in zerg fights due to the aggregate condition clear + stability in zerg fights, especially if you’re constantly facing organized enemies. The bottom line is power damage will be more useful to you and your allies as a ranger in zerg fights. However, once you find yourself alone… that’s when regen/condi ranger shines.

The actual regen/condi ranger looks like this except (I kept your gear choice since it’s not far off, full apothecary otherwise): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fnEqQvgWLIWsAVLGAToanAdaA86GcfBLwED-TViAABecEAAU3gP7PAwBBoRlgcq+TZK/24BA0xFAgQATWDA-w

Axe/torch will not work too well for you given than you have no evades on that weapon, but torch is great overall as a condition-damage weapon.

If you want something power based for WvW then try Pelopidas’s build which is a good option based on healing/shouts. If you want something more related to WvW power + survival here is my personal choice (please note how you get fury from using your skills which is quite beneficial): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEq0xaLLmsw1ag9gadA0Andrhw9WcEtdJfqC-TFDBABmq+DHHQAMOCAbp87q9Ha4CAsiuAAeAAqohZjDlQGHgAJVCSIAWLAA-w

If you wanna some fun in WvW, go zerk LB/GS, that’s the best use of ranger in WvW now.
If you are running with pug zerg, go with EE+PA, you need not RTW.
If you are running with organized group, consider yourself as a thief, go with EE+RTW, focus on 1 target, you are helping a lot since you are a real killer since in a tight fight, every single 1 counts.

Condition/Regen ranger shines in 1v1, but that’s it, roaming =/= 1v1, in most cases you are facing 1vx, you will still have a hard time.

CRrabbit.1284:

If you wanna some fun in WvW, go zerk LB/GS, that’s the best use of ranger in WvW now.
If you are running with pug zerg, go with EE+PA, you need not RTW.
If you are running with organized group, consider yourself as a thief, go with EE+RTW, focus on 1 target, you are helping a lot since you are a real killer since in a tight fight, every single 1 counts.

Condition/Regen ranger shines in 1v1, but that’s it, roaming =/= 1v1, in most cases you are facing 1vx, you will still have a hard time.

Completely agreed, WvW is a lot of different things and it changes from server to server, it depends on what you want to achieve. Fun in a solid zerg, build bursty. Fun in a zerg that keeps on dying then build bursty but tanky, fun roaming? Try not to roam alone unless you feel you can take on anyone 1vX, organized groups is exactly what it is, help out by getting kills especially of those whom are most vulnerable to you: the back line. The best way to contribute in organized groups as a ranger is by getting kills and applying a lot of immobilize to the main blob… not to mention not being too squishy… a very squishy ranger is almost as good as a dead one since organized groups are too dynamic and big damage will hit you from time to time.

Read the Wind is a gigantic waste in zerg warfare. You’re better off with Eagle Eye; Piercing Arrows is a must, of course.

Awge is right that the best way rangers can support in group combat is to lock foes down for the kill. Muddy Terrain, Spiders, maybe an off-hand axe for the pull on Path of Scars.

Rampage as One is a must.

awge.3852:

If you’re truly looking for a regen/conditions build for WvW you need to understand how it works. Condition damage won’t do you too well in zerg fights due to the aggregate condition clear + stability in zerg fights, especially if you’re constantly facing organized enemies. The bottom line is power damage will be more useful to you and your allies as a ranger in zerg fights. However, once you find yourself alone… that’s when regen/condi ranger shines.

The actual regen/condi ranger looks like this except (I kept your gear choice since it’s not far off, full apothecary otherwise): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fnEqQvgWLIWsAVLGAToanAdaA86GcfBLwED-TViAABecEAAU3gP7PAwBBoRlgcq+TZK/24BA0xFAgQATWDA-w

Axe/torch will not work too well for you given than you have no evades on that weapon, but torch is great overall as a condition-damage weapon.

If you want something power based for WvW then try Pelopidas’s build which is a good option based on healing/shouts. If you want something more related to WvW power + survival here is my personal choice (please note how you get fury from using your skills which is quite beneficial): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEq0xaLLmsw1ag9gadA0Andrhw9WcEtdJfqC-TFDBABmq+DHHQAMOCAbp87q9Ha4CAsiuAAeAAqohZjDlQGHgAJVCSIAWLAA-w

if thats the con/regen build then what build is mine i thought it was a con/regen build http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRBHfxG2IjKNs2viFLUtGIToaHAJbn+OUH1U1VFMhUA-TlRFwAiV/Bg5vR6HKoEMoyPR7PQKAzkGB-w

@trunks: let’s get real, you have a hybrid beast master – condi / regen build going on here, which is very interesting. Does it work well for you in PvE/PvP/WvW or only a few of these? Looks fun and aggressive, but I can see there is a trade off in the stun breaker and dodge area. How do you deal with poison damage hindering your regen ability?… I’m guessing the answer should be along the lines of they die first haha :-)

awge.3852:

@trunks: let’s get real, you have a hybrid beast master – condi / regen build going on here, which is very interesting. Does it work well for you in PvE/PvP/WvW or only a few of these? Looks fun and aggressive, but I can see there is a trade off in the stun breaker and dodge area. How do you deal with poison damage hindering your regen ability?… I’m guessing the answer should be along the lines of they die first haha :-)

works great for me always love the warriors surprised the lost to me

awge.3852:

CRrabbit.1284:

If you wanna some fun in WvW, go zerk LB/GS, that’s the best use of ranger in WvW now.
If you are running with pug zerg, go with EE+PA, you need not RTW.
If you are running with organized group, consider yourself as a thief, go with EE+RTW, focus on 1 target, you are helping a lot since you are a real killer since in a tight fight, every single 1 counts.

Condition/Regen ranger shines in 1v1, but that’s it, roaming =/= 1v1, in most cases you are facing 1vx, you will still have a hard time.

Completely agreed, WvW is a lot of different things and it changes from server to server, it depends on what you want to achieve. Fun in a solid zerg, build bursty. Fun in a zerg that keeps on dying then build bursty but tanky, fun roaming? Try not to roam alone unless you feel you can take on anyone 1vX, organized groups is exactly what it is, help out by getting kills especially of those whom are most vulnerable to you: the back line. The best way to contribute in organized groups as a ranger is by getting kills and applying a lot of immobilize to the main blob… not to mention not being too squishy… a very squishy ranger is almost as good as a dead one since organized groups are too dynamic and big damage will hit you from time to time.

Wow, totally agree. Up voted!