Core Ranger Build Advice for Raid

Core Ranger Build Advice for Raid

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Posted by: kzar.3079

kzar.3079

Hi all!
I have been seeing some tutorials for the vale guardian and I wanted to know what do you think would be a good build for this boss. Should I play condition or power DPS? Most importantly I don’t want a healer build.
Thanks.

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

If going as a Core Ranger, use a Power build for VG, as Condition Ranger falls short once entering the phases under 66% health in which your team has to move into safe zones. I recommend using this template [HERE] as a start.

Modify skills to fit the needs of the group, though. Drop Spirit of Nature for Entangle for Spark control if your group is fine on health but not for Spark management. Keep the Bristleback for consistent pet damage with the second pet varying.

Electric Wyvern if you (desperately) need the extra CC for VG break bar, if only minor additional CC is required, use a Pink Moa instead. The cooldown on Dazing Screech lines up with VG timing of his break bar/AOE phase which is about every 30 seconds or so. Extra heals from Harmonic Cry is also a plus.

If your group is fine with CC, use a Tiger or Lynx as the second pet. Use Tiger for additional fury for the melee team. If they don’t need help on Fury, use the Lynx instead. Use felines at the start of the fight only since the tank usually keeps VG stationed at a pillar. Once below 66%, use the Bristleback from then on for consistency.

If on the team for Green Circle, use Sword 2 to evade towards the circle to save you time having to run, assuming it’s a fair distance away. Positioning obviously important. Swap to longbow and use Quickdraw to your advantage on Longbow while at range and swap to S/A when heading back into melee range when able. Use PBS on Sparks between swaps.

If you are going to over-shoot distance of Hornet’s Sting when heading towards the Green circle, weapon swap mid-animation to cancel the evade to stop yourself. You’re going to be on Longbow anyways during that time.

There’s a lot more stuff but there’s some tips and etc. and so forth. Definitely sure there’s more stuff to contributing as a core Ranger on VG but that’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

PET PRECISION & DPS TESTS -OUTDATED-
Will update once Path of Fire releases.

(edited by Wondrouswall.7169)

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

Hey Kzar.

Here is the build you might want to play.
Please, before you judge, be noted that you do not have to pick druid for healing. You can pick it for the DPS support.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8XnMqA1siNrAuqAEtil9Ab52FAGdwx176el5EEwGBl8sUA-TZRBwAkLD8c/hIXAAAHBgHPEAA

Your main idea is to drop healing spring in melee range – which, thanks to regen, will easily fill your astral bar at all times.
Your main role is to keep the DPS as high as you can, then swap to CAF and throw #4 to as many people as you can (I assume you won’t be Quickdrawing much into melee range, so you should proc Quick Draw by doing so), throwing an ability or two and casting #4 again. Then you force leave the form.
This will result in all ~8 people having +15% damage bonus for 8 seconds if you do it right and they are stacked.
Cooldown on this rotation is 10 seconds after leaving form.
Afterwards, you keep damaging.

And yup, you’ll be using your glyphs as much as you can. They proc the bonus damage from Grace of the land, too.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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kzar.3079

Thank you for the tips. I thought maybe a condi build would be better for raid but it wouldn’t work because of so much movement of boss and party right?
@Tragic Positive, if there is already a druid healer in the party, is it worth it to use druid for the damage support? What would you recomend to increase personal DPS?

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Tragic Positive.9356

Thank you for the tips. I thought maybe a condi build would be better for raid but it wouldn’t work because of so much movement of boss and party right?
@Tragic Positive, if there is already a druid healer in the party, is it worth it to use druid for the damage support? What would you recomend to increase personal DPS?

Yea, you are pretty much right about the condi part. Even though we had a few successful pulls of Vale Guardian with Viper’s Ranger.
It all depends on what tank and strategy you use. Condi ranger can be useful at some situations even in raids but you’ll meet a lot of situations when he isn’t.

Your question is absolutely on point. If there is another healing oriented Druid in your party already, you might start considering whether is it worth.
With all shame as it is – I can’t give you a clear and straight answer to this question. The Glyph of Empowerment itself beats any other utility slot in terms of mathematical DPS… But that’s the only real benefit since another druid is already going to provide GotL – the differences are really slim. There’s a lot of RNG in this one.

There is, however, one thing you do want to consider. I haven’t tested it myself but the idea definitely makes sense.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAR8XjUqQJL2qCOrAXLG2DK+CC4RYbiAIB+O4Ie6SG2ZA-TJRBwAAeCAPuIAP3fgcZAA
In raids especially with revenants pulsing all the fury passively – this seems to become a thing to keep in mind.

And if you are not a fan of melee combat, the standard Frost Spotter still works.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8XjUqQJL2qCOrAVLG2DqtJCgRnvgAeE8gfcniSceYA-TJRBwAPeIAP3fgcZAAXBAA

“Observe, learn and counter.”