Guild Wars 2

I’d shelved my fully exo’d Ranger a month ago out of sheer frustration and have been patiently waiting for the changes promised today.

Excited!!

I plan not to approach this very optimistically. I feel like it’s going to be lackluster.

Jon said it: “SUBSTANTIAL” changes. I’ve been putting my faith in that one word this entire time. Here’s hoping it’s true.

Jay.3284:

I plan not to approach this very optimistically. I feel like it’s going to be lackluster.

I’ll keep the faith for now….in the meantime, I have my Thief alt to keep me entertained.

I envy anyone anticipating this patch (the ranger bit of it, I mean) with any degree of optimism.

Here’s to hoping that I’m proven very wrong in my cynicism.

Bearzu Smash.5962:

I envy anyone anticipating this patch (the ranger bit of it, I mean) with any degree of optimism.

Here’s to hoping that I’m proven very wrong in my cynicism.

Hear hear! To each his own I guess but I find it easier to live in hope than otherwise and am hopeful that Jon will deliver on his promises.

It’s Wed Nov. 14 in Texas, approaching 7pm, so I’m assuming you are the fortunate ones on the other side of the world enjoying Nov. 15 morning. Is this correct?

matenji.3809:

It’s Wed Nov. 14 in Texas, approaching 7pm, so I’m assuming you are the fortunate ones on the other side of the world enjoying Nov. 15 morning. Is this correct?

This doesn’t make much sense…

neverborne.4736:

Jon said it: “SUBSTANTIAL” changes. I’ve been putting my faith in that one word this entire time. Here’s hoping it’s true.

Hope for mediocre changes and be happy if they exceed your expectations imo. Substantial means nothing, $10,000 is a substantial amount to a low income family, $10,000 is peanuts to a millionaire. So putting faith in one word that can be very different depending on what your view of substantial is, might be setting yourself up for disappointment.

I hope they exceed expectations but I’ll settle for some decent fixes.

Jay.3284:

matenji.3809:

It’s Wed Nov. 14 in Texas, approaching 7pm, so I’m assuming you are the fortunate ones on the other side of the world enjoying Nov. 15 morning. Is this correct?

This doesn’t make much sense…

The OP brought up the 15th being ‘today’ yet it is still the 14th where I am. Just needing the clarification is all, thanks.

lol I’ve decided that there will be a bullet for each individual Signet and Spirit. The rest will be typo corrections.

-.-" I’m excited but at the same time I’m setting myself up for a let down. Here’s to hoping I’m wrong. —crossesfingers--

matenji.3809:

Jay.3284:

matenji.3809:

It’s Wed Nov. 14 in Texas, approaching 7pm, so I’m assuming you are the fortunate ones on the other side of the world enjoying Nov. 15 morning. Is this correct?

This doesn’t make much sense…

The OP brought up the 15th being ‘today’ yet it is still the 14th where I am. Just needing the clarification is all, thanks.

The patch would of still came for you if it was the 14th for you…….

Nurse.1085:

lol I’ve decided that there will be a bullet for each individual Signet and Spirit. The rest will be typo corrections.

-Fixed an animation bug that allowed rangers to equip weapons.

Sorry but it won’t be the end all of patches for us..

Minor tweaks, maybe some reason to swap to another weapon set, but you will not be seeing anything major..

Do not be naive and think there is a major buff inc.

Can someone quote a promise made by Anet for a release on the 15th? From what I read Jon said mid November that is not an actual date so if it’s not out tomorrow please do not say anything was promised by any date.

Lorian.4028:

Can someone quote a promise made by Anet for a release on the 15th? From what I read Jon said mid November that is not an actual date so if it’s not out tomorrow please do not say anything was promised by any date.

This is actually a valid point; the best I can do is find a post 10 days ago that said the changes would be happening in roughly two weeks…

Lysico.4906:

Sorry but it won’t be the end all of patches for us..

Minor tweaks, maybe some reason to swap to another weapon set, but you will not be seeing anything major..

Do not be naive and think there is a major buff inc.

But there is. Take your negativity elsewhere. Anything is a major buff to real rangers. By real rangers, I mean the rangers who started with a ranger main, even if shelved, and plan on playing ranger again, not because they may become the new fotm. but because they love the class. There will be those class hoppers who jump from class to class looking for their crutch. Anet is best in the business at fixing and balancing, so Im sure they will buff us substantially. Like necros did.

Lorian.4028:

Can someone quote a promise made by Anet for a release on the 15th? From what I read Jon said mid November that is not an actual date so if it’s not out tomorrow please do not say anything was promised by any date.

The 15th has been promised. Sorry I dont have a link currently.

Bearzu Smash.5962:

I envy anyone anticipating this patch (the ranger bit of it, I mean) with any degree of optimism.

Here’s to hoping that I’m proven very wrong in my cynicism.

Same.

Torrentula.7410:

Bearzu Smash.5962:

Nurse.1085:

lol I’ve decided that there will be a bullet for each individual Signet and Spirit. The rest will be typo corrections.

-Fixed an animation bug that allowed rangers to equip weapons.

Made me laugh

LOLOLOLOL
Made my night. Thank you.

But seriously…
You forgot to include the animation bug that forces pets we find in the world to follow us.
Could you imagine how awesome it would be if those things actually attacked people? We’d be OP!

I rolled out my thief and enjoyed mindlessly dominating for a little while, but that got rather boring in short order. So I just haven’t been playing in a couple weeks.

I’m pinning all my hopes on this patch, whether I just give up or stay, and I really really wanna stay. Besides the functionality issues and bugs, I love the ranger, and rather am fond of this game in general. I know I’m getting my hopes up, and am a little sick with the anticipation of the changes. I’m optimistic, but a sort of desperate optimism…

I’d be happy if the patch notes just read:
-Fixed blade trail bug
-Fixed block bug (did not make it last 3x longer this time)
-Svanir runes invulnerability is now tied to the control effect, if broken with stability or stun break the invulnerability now fades.
- Fixed thief stealth bug for now displaying the character for many seconds after the effect has worn off.

Any ranger buffs after this point will just be added bonus’, the first three being MUST have changes as they are being exploited in tPvP all over the place.

Watch it get delayed.

I will bet 10 dollars that Rifle Warrior build will still be more effective in PvP…

If they don’t change Longbow or Shortbow, I am not interested….. this quote has me a little hopeful

“Second is trying to improve the feel/ pacing on some weapons.”

I gave up on bows in PVP a while ago, hopefully they give me a reason to try them again, sad that GS has more survivability moves then either bow. Sword just needs a reworking on the rooting, and maybe make the evade skills proc the 2 seconds of protection trait. Axe main hand needs a little more damage, off hand its really meh, but WD has its uses in aoe farms. Dagger is good, maybe make the 4 skill a longer slide?

If they fix pet f2 abilities, and let pets attack while moving I would be forever grateful.

Hoping for:

We promised you substantial changes and this is it.

Shortbow, Longbow and Greatsword now do 200% the damage it was doing previously.

Pets now give opponents ailments and help hinder them. Every 6 seconds your pet passively applies a 1 second stun on your opponent and every 10 seconds your pet passively applies a 2 second blind. Pets now do little damage, their f2 abilities have been made major aoe crowd control abilities.

As a ranger you now take 50% of the damage you used to take.

Gilgamesh.7265:

Hoping for:

We promised you substantial changes and this is it.

Shortbow, Longbow and Greatsword now do 200% the damage it was doing previously.

Pets now give opponents ailments and help hinder them. Every 6 seconds your pet passively applies a 1 second stun on your opponent and every 10 seconds your pet passively applies a 2 second blind. Pets now do little damage, their f2 abilities have been made major aoe crowd control abilities.

As a ranger you now take 50% of the damage you used to take.

Those numbers sound big but would probably translate as staying a live for 2 more seconds and hitting like a bb-gun instead of a pea shooter.

Well I’d prefer to be a bb-gun

I stilll think that the overall ranger damage is fine, just the pet’s need to get fixed completely to let us use our full potential.

I’m hoping for:

Suicide Pet Bombs:
You can now stuff your pet with explosives and detonate them near enemies to cause copious amounts of damage. Also adds an AoE called “Entrail splatter” which blinds all enemies for 15 seconds while they look for rags to wipe off their faces.

Or, alternatively a new skill for bears:

Bear Cavalry:
You hop on your bear with a rusty sword and charge recklessly to your demise while shouting obscene things.

Aeri.5738:

I stilll think that the overall ranger damage is fine, just the pet’s need to get fixed completely to let us use our full potential.

You can think that, but it doesn’t make it true

I have a strange gut feeling that its going to be delayed once again… crap I hope I’m wrong.

bluesnacks.2301:

I’m hoping for:

Suicide Pet Bombs:
You can now stuff your pet with explosives and detonate them near enemies to cause copious amounts of damage. Also adds an AoE called “Entrail splatter” which blinds all enemies for 15 seconds while they look for rags to wipe off their faces.

Or, alternatively a new skill for bears:

Bear Cavalry:
You hop on your bear with a rusty sword and charge recklessly to your demise while shouting obscene things.

That was just brilliant. Would look pretty funny with an asura riding the bear. But even funnier with an oversized norn or charr causing the bear to charge and then fall to the ground with it’s legs pointing out in opposite directions.

Xylith.4873:

Aeri.5738:

I stilll think that the overall ranger damage is fine, just the pet’s need to get fixed completely to let us use our full potential.

You can think that, but it doesn’t make it true

My pet constantly deals 2.5-4k crits.
Add this to your 2k Longbow crits and finally realize the damage potential we have.

Wow 2.5 k + 2k ! ^^ lol

This is our true dps potential!

A Pet that will never constantly hit my Opponent for 2.5k-4k and my Longbow Shots will miss about 50% or more.

L2P

Think about 25k+ Rifleshots from Warriors with 1 Hit/Style

then think about this 5k Dps maybe! with 1 Hit from ur Pet and u….. this will never gonna happen because me and my Pet cant hit moving Opponents ( Missrate about 50% and more )

Hadrians.4567:

Wow 2.5 k + 2k ! ^^ lol

This is our true dps potential!

A Pet that will never constantly hit my Opponent for 2.5k-4k and my Longbow Shots will miss about 50% or more.

L2P

Think about 25k+ Rifleshots from Warriors with 1 Hit/Style

then think about this 5k Dps maybe! with 1 Hit from ur Pet and u….. this will never gonna happen because me and my Pet cant hit moving Opponents ( Missrate about 50% and more )

Every class needs a counter. The ranger counter is people who use movement keys. I’m pretty sure you’ll agree, if they wuld just stand still, or better yet go afk they are far easier, you can even kill warriors, thieves eles, guardians, burst… bunker spec’d, whatever… they just have to slip up ever so slightly for a minute or so and just stand there.

You people just don’t get it and complain against glass canons being glass canons…
L2P? L2Understand-your-class
+ I’m talking about pets being fixed, so you guys can stop talking about pets not hitting moving targets…

I guess you will never get my arguments, so there is no point in trying to explain that to you any further.

Lorian.4028:

Can someone quote a promise made by Anet for a release on the 15th? From what I read Jon said mid November that is not an actual date so if it’s not out tomorrow please do not say anything was promised by any date.

no i haven’t seen a date stated, however he did say next patch. So no reason to think it shouldn’t be this patch as it is the next major patch after the post.

apparently patch goes active in 5 hours, #awesome

bluesnacks.2301:

I’m hoping for:

Suicide Pet Bombs:
You can now stuff your pet with explosives and detonate them near enemies to cause copious amounts of damage. Also adds an AoE called “Entrail splatter” which blinds all enemies for 15 seconds while they look for rags to wipe off their faces.

Or, alternatively a new skill for bears:

Bear Cavalry:
You hop on your bear with a rusty sword and charge recklessly to your demise while shouting obscene things.

Any way to combine these? I wouldn’t mind going out with a bang myself (in-game of course :/ )

Either that or add a rainbow coloured trail to my pets. Then maybe I would bother rezzing them (for the cases where it’s pointless).

Aeri.5738:

You people just don’t get it and complain against glass canons being glass canons…
L2P? L2Understand-your-class
+ I’m talking about pets being fixed, so you guys can stop talking about pets not hitting moving targets…

I guess you will never get my arguments, so there is no point in trying to explain that to you any further.

I get your argument, but it’s a bit short sighted.

So you talked about pets being able to attack while moving being a fix. So what happens in PVE, and WvW… and in fact everywhere, where there is AOE that just obliterates the pet in about 2 – 3 seconds. Where’s the benefit of moving and damaging there?

I get what you’re saying, fixing the pet while moving while attacking will hopefully give it a solid damage output. That’s fine, but then we need to fix the fact that pet’s get obliterated from AoE. Ok so we fix that, that’s cool, they get some sort of trait or something that reduces inc damage from AoE. That still isn’t fixing the poor AI on the pet’s for movement and the plethora of bugs people have encountered.

If every single one of these was fixed, then yea, we probably would be doing some nice damage, but I don’t personally see that happening. ( I really hope I’m wrong)

Aeri.5738:

Xylith.4873:

Aeri.5738:

I stilll think that the overall ranger damage is fine, just the pet’s need to get fixed completely to let us use our full potential.

You can think that, but it doesn’t make it true

My pet constantly deals 2.5-4k crits.
Add this to your 2k Longbow crits and finally realize the damage potential we have.

I’d be happier (not happy but happier) if I did 2.5 – 4k and my pet did 2k. At least then I’d be in control of most of my damage.

If rangers aren’t drastically fixed this update I’m just going to roll a dime-a-dozen OP warrior, because as of now they can do everything we can but 3x better.

Me too ^^ cant wait to see if i Oneshoot all these Guys in WvW if im @ 80 with Full Power/Crit Gear

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I currently kill most people easily (minus really good thieves) on my ranger. With this update I am hoping it will make my life even easier!

Hadrians.4567:

Me too ^^ cant wait to see if i Oneshoot all these Guys in WvW if im @ 80 with Full Power/Crit Gear

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Don’t think like that, there is a reason rangers were nerfed to begin with, it’s because Rapid Fire was basically a death sentence to anyone who was caught in it without dodging/strafing (if you were stunned for example). In the betas I could easily dish out 20k damage with Rapid Fire, from a rooftop, without ever being hit. With a greatsword we could deal about 30k DPS in 10 hits, we WERE, for the lack of a better phrase, overpowered beyond belief.

Therein the problem lies: they overnerfed rangers to the point where their only use is serving as a botters dream class (or an amazing farming class). Currently we have great survivability, but our group play and DPS are very lackluster. No smart group will ever choose a ranger over a warrior, even a warrior 30 levels lower than an 80 ranger has more to offer to a group than us currently. This games’ grind revolves around dungeons and group events, sure we hold up all right in the damage department, but literally the only support we have is our spirits, which are extremely mediocre (bar our elite, which is one of the best healing supports in the game apart from its ridiculous cooldown time), and Healing Spring, which is the best water-field AoE in the game. Even if a ranger was fully decked out in support I would still take a warrior for the DPS and natural survivability, unless of course they were a crappy 5-sig warrior haha.

Arena Net broke this class before the game was released, and then put off its update to the point where we are now the laughingstock of the community, falling behind eleys and even necromancers. If this update doesn’t fix our gut-wrenching problems then honestly there is no point in fooling ourselves to play this class anymore.

Xylith.4873:

I get what you’re saying, fixing the pet while moving while attacking will hopefully give it a solid damage output. That’s fine, but then we need to fix the fact that pet’s get obliterated from AoE. Ok so we fix that, that’s cool, they get some sort of trait or something that reduces inc damage from AoE. That still isn’t fixing the poor AI on the pet’s for movement and the plethora of bugs people have encountered.

When I was playing WoW, we had the same problems with pets. It takes almost two years for Blizzard to fix it by reducing AoE damage to pet in dungeons and lattely scale our pet with a percentage of our stat.
After that, you could finally play a beastmaster (i.e. a ranger who deal damage equally with his pet).

Well put Linnes. Ranger was very OP in the betas especially Sylvari rangers with their vines/entangle + hunters shot+rapid fire = death to all (except those with retaliation/reflect)

I dont know why, but i dont expect a lot of great changes for the ranger,, because they need a lot of changes for shut up the haters of this profesions on the game… not a few… i feeling sad when all people are makings jokes and saying bullkitten about the rangers because anyone want they…

I dont want change profesion because it isnt useful,, i want play ranger because i like but its hard in the last days…

Rangers have no spike build unlike other classes. Even all berserker gear hits for no more than 2-3k a hit on a crit. Pets die too easily in group events so you instantly take a 30-35% dmg reduction. I would like a function to stow pet permanently and gain a bonus = to % of pets stats. Either limit the burst dmg from other classes or scale up the burst dmg of the ranger. Ranger has some nice survivability but a severe lack dmg. My lvl 15 warrior hits lvl17 diessa mobs for 1/4 the dmg my lvl 80 ranger hits orr mobs it is quite humorous. All with lvl 8 weapons and mismatch fine lvl gear.