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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

Yelloweyedemon.2860

Wanted to create this thread a while ago, but what do you guys think about max dps runes.

Many people say scholar (10% more damage when health is above 90%) but I personally think that ranger runes (5% more damage when you have a pet) offers more damage overall.

In fights you spend quite a lot of time below 90% health, but you should always have a pet out.

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

the 5% dmg are bugged, you always got them, but the scholar rune give you more dmg

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Posted by: DanSH.6143

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I’m pretty sure that 5 scholars + 1 divinity is better than ranger runes if you want something more reliable.
in a group it’s safe to say you’ll always have fury, and you should already have a good amount of crit chance,.
also, with Spotter you should really not need that extra crit chance from precision runes. power runes would work better.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

Don’t forget Runes of the Thief too in there. Precision, Cond. Damage, and +10% damage when flanking. Very nice synergy with shortbow.

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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Ranger Runes win by far. In optimized dungeon runs, scholar runes might be slightly better, but just compare the price and you’ll know, what you grab anyways.
Scholar runes cost three times as much, while they will only provide peak dps at the beginning of the fight as long as it can actually be called a fight. As soon, as you take a hit, your dps takes a significant dive.
On the other hand, ranger runes will always provide that 5% bonus.

Now, once you start comparing them to raw stat stuff like divinity runes and ruby orbs, things get a bit more complicated. Here, you will actually have to do some calculations.

But between Ranger Runes and Scholar Runes, Ranger wins.

The only crime, turrets committed, is being good against the celestial meta.
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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

not true..if you want max dmg and can stay 24% from the time about 90% life, scholar is better

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Posted by: naphack.9346

naphack.9346

so how can a max damage build stay above 90%? You make it sound way too easy.
In a max damage build, any scratch will put you below 90%.
As I said before, in any scenario, where the encounter can actually be called a fight, scholar runes are just not that good.

The only crime, turrets committed, is being good against the celestial meta.
The mob has spoken and the turrets shall be burnt at the stake.

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

wvw or pve ?

pve it´s very easy just doge/block, i got the rune on my ranger,guard,warri, ele and engi for dungeons and frac.

and wvw..i know what other classes can do, i never would play a burst ranger cause we got no burst or nice dps builds.

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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

Yelloweyedemon.2860

Thanks for the replies, I don’t think I will change from ranger runes to anything else. I can’t stay above 90% for long neither in PvE nor in WvW/pvp. I’d rather have a 5% damage all the time than dancing from 10 to 0.

and wvw..i know what other classes can do, i never would play a burst ranger cause we got no burst or nice dps builds.

Sorry but we got both burst and awesome dps builds..

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

what you call burst?
the lb rapidfire?
gs maul?

dps..hmm shortbow and sword, but sorry i dont want to farm zerg player in wvw, i want to play vs good player and with builds like that you get outplayed like a 3 year child

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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

Yelloweyedemon.2860

what you call burst?
the lb rapidfire?
gs maul?

dps..hmm shortbow and sword, but sorry i dont want to farm zerg player in wvw, i want to play vs good player and with builds like that you get outplayed like a 3 year child

I should not have replied since bads will turn this thread into another ranger qq thread.

Stick to the point.

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

Rune of the Ogre because I am cheap \o/

But really they are pretty good. Give lots of power, a tiny bit of crit damage and +4% damage. I generally think the precision you get from ranger runes is not as good as power, since as someone already said, in a max DPS build you’ll already have over 50% crit chance and fury ontop of that.

Honestly I have never tried scholar but I have always thought they wouldnt be that great, because fight where you can be above 90% HP a significant portion of the time is a fight you could have won with no runes at all.. so whats the point. I’d only ever consider using them for LB sniping people, but even then..

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

the 6.er buff from oger rune is bugged like rune of strength, it gives no bonus, but for ranger builds you need more crit chance, cuase or dmg came form high cirt(crit dmg)
not like the war or gurad with high power, sure the power is the base for high crits ^^

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Posted by: thefantasticg.3984

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Depends on what you’re doing. In practical application I have found for what I like to do there is very little difference between Ranger and Scholar runes. Although, I want to make a set of Divinity runes for my celestial gear for my Ranger (and my elementalist) when I’m just running around doing PVE stuff. My zerker gear has runes of the ranger at the moment as I have been trying them out for awhile now. Then again I only run pve, dungeons, and a tiny bit of fracts so I got much more damage out of running melee than ranged.

Bamula, you got a link to Anet admitting to the runes being bugged and working on a fix? IIRC, they were fixed many months ago… but my memory ain’t the best I admit.

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