Guild Wars 2

I’ve finally found a dual bow build that works!

Title is a joke, if you like melee that’s great. But lets be honest, most people make a Ranger to use bows. Because bows are cool.

I’ve tried all the melee weapons but I just don’t like them. I wanted to use bows. And for WvW. Oh yeah.

Here’s the build that I made after much trial and error. LB and SB are not really complimentary. But this works. Its the most fun I’ve had as a Ranger since I built mine at launch.

Below is the build.

The sigils are either what came on the weapon or because their cheap. I’m saving up for some different ones. Any reccomendations would be much appreciated.

Pets. I’m not set on these two. Not sure what would be best.

Traits can be changed up to provide some variety. This is the base. Sometimes go full into Marksmanship and/or Nature Magic or some combo. The build works with many variations.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATVjEq0xaLLGsw1ig+ga5CEAN3hfg5/+BuG4TWxiWB-TVDBwARuEA7UHJ2+D5U5orSCWaCwqUAwDAwsysU6AmoEMwRAotJoAAIA8cbezb+ckCIPlRA-w

Divinity runes? Ouch. After the ferocity nerf and divinity rune nerf, they are really lackluster atm. Also if you’re going to use SB, using a full set of celestial trinkets I find actually really works well with it. SB in my opinion is more of a hybrid weapon, because you will never see any really high numbers with it, but the bleed pressure it can provide and the rapid fire coupled with some bleed on crit traits can make this quite the lethal little pea shooter.

Honestly I would recommend getting rid of all the rampager gear, replacing the weapon with a zerker sb and the armour should be a Soldier/zerker mix. Throw in celestial trinkets and you will have more of a hybrid build that, from what I can see, it looks like you are going for.

However, keep in mind, you severely hurt yourself by limiting yourself to both bows, as you said yourself, they do not compliment eachother, you also lose a lot of survivability and DPS, but if you’re into the whole ranger=bow thing that’s fine. Just keep that in mind though if you ever feel you’re coming up short.

Prepare to get eaten by condis in PvP formats such as WvW.

You broke my hearth.

I run myself a LB/SB zerker in WvW, so I’m always very glad to see a fellow true bow ranger..

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Thanks warriorjrd. About the Divinity Runes. I played around with various Runes and Divinity gave the best stats of the one’s that I could afford. I tried Dolyak with Zerker gear and that actually gave slightly less stats than the Divinity.

I’ve tried mixing Soldier and Zerk gear and can’t come up with a mix that gives better stats. Perhaps I’m missing something – which is entirely possible.

For some reason I find my survival with dual bows better. Maybe because I suck at melee and with other weapons I end up getting into trouble more often. This way I can stay at range all the time.

Figured I’d put it out there for anyone else who might be wishing Rangers could be bowmasters. It can work and be great fun.

@Neko All I play is WvW so I know about those condi kittens. But I’ve found I get eaten alive by them no matter what I do. So I just avoid them. If I want to try to go up against them I could throw 6 into Nature and use SotF. (But I’d probably still lose).

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

You can play how you want, but in my opinion, any double bow build is a total joke.

For WvW, I guess this could be okay for pug zerging where anything goes, but if you brought this roaming or into spvp, it’d fail to do anything of value. Thieves and even mesmers will eat you for each meal, condition classes will have their dirty way with you, you won’t be able to outdps the sustain of low risk high reward specs, and people will honestly view you as a free kill.

I play a number of spvp specs (incliding S/F burst ele with up to 13-15 seconds of projectile immunity) and I have never once lost to a ranger with a bow 1v1 unless he switched to greatsword and I messed up. So many rangers have such a sick fetsish with bows that they will sit in the bow even as you draw close, its mind boggling to me. If a ranger joined my solo Q team with such a build, I’d honestly ask them to change to something even remotely more useful..

As for shortbow, I doubt there will be any reason to use it once the feature patch comes out, as Axe/dagger will outclass it completely with the next generation of cheesey celestial might stacking builds. But if eles, warriors, engis and S/D thieves, can be invicible with 20 stacks of might, why can’t rangers?

Bows just haven’t got enough evasive ability for me, when evasion is a key advantage of ranger.
:(

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

Adding on to this, thematically speaking carrying two bows and switching between them mid-combat seems extremely impractical. The fact that the two bows don’t compliment each other very well makes complete sense. Even as a hunter you’d likely not keep a longbow and a shortbow strapped to your back and use them interchangeably. You’d also make yourself very vulnerable to surprise attacks by not carrying a melee side-arm, which would be the main weakness of this build as well.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

I think you missed the “title is a joke” part. First phrase, second line.

Ehecatl.9172:

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

Adding on to this, thematically speaking carrying two bows and switching between them mid-combat seems extremely impractical. The fact that the two bows don’t compliment each other very well makes complete sense. Even as a hunter you’d likely not keep a longbow and a shortbow strapped to your back and use them interchangeably. You’d also make yourself very vulnerable to surprise attacks by not carrying a melee side-arm, which would be the main weakness of this build as well.

Wow, lol at all the hate to a different style of a Ranger. I’m sure most here are relatively competent if not pro’s at Ranger pvp, I’m sure as heck not pro. We all understand a Ranger is not “supposed” to stick to bows – we’ve heard this for many months. This doesn’t mean one can stop there and drop the bows. I love bows. Period. OP seems to as well. Let’s help him with that, shall we?

Saying that, Bow/Bow has many advantages, including pushbacks, stuns, evades, stealth, and a high powered attack. Switching between the two allows you to add more survivability to a high powered zerker ranger, coupled with 2 dodges and lightening reflex – not counting if you trait to survivability-condi removal/dodge roll removes blind. There’s a lot of hate towards LB in spvp and it’s completely justified but can be competent with the right strategy and in good hands.

On the other hand, switching to GS allows block, a stun and an escape, comparable to SB evades minus the escape. Very well to that. Sword/D has 2-3 evades. Very well. I can see the argument of a melee side arm for a surprise attack, but I fail to see how bow/bow cannot deal with the same surprise attack equally. You cannot block your way prematurely from a surprise attack.

Two bows can compliment each other, meta? No way. In competent hands? Sure.

Kilger.5490:

Bows just haven’t got enough evasive ability for me, when evasion is a key advantage of ranger.
:(

LB/SB with utilities has 5 (plus 2 dodges – 6) evades (counting stealth, a form of evasion).
S/D/Axe/D with utilities has 6 (counting hornet sting + 2 dodges – 6) evades.
GS/S/D with utilities has 8 (counting GS escape and block + 2 dodges – 8! ) evades.

I can see your argument, GS/S/D will have a slight advantage, but not enough to warrant LB/SB as not evasively competent. The above is just a rough count to show LB/SB isn’t as bad as it sounds, lol.

corrected: ty nagymbear.5280

nearlight.3064:

You can play how you want, but in my opinion, any double bow build is a total joke.

For WvW, I guess this could be okay for pug zerging where anything goes, but if you brought this roaming or into spvp, it’d fail to do anything of value. Thieves and even mesmers will eat you for each meal, condition classes will have their dirty way with you, you won’t be able to outdps the sustain of low risk high reward specs, and people will honestly view you as a free kill.

I play a number of spvp specs (incliding S/F burst ele with up to 13-15 seconds of projectile immunity) and I have never once lost to a ranger with a bow 1v1 unless he switched to greatsword and I messed up. So many rangers have such a sick fetsish with bows that they will sit in the bow even as you draw close, its mind boggling to me. If a ranger joined my solo Q team with such a build, I’d honestly ask them to change to something even remotely more useful..

As for shortbow, I doubt there will be any reason to use it once the feature patch comes out, as Axe/dagger will outclass it completely with the next generation of cheesey celestial might stacking builds. But if eles, warriors, engis and S/D thieves, can be invicible with 20 stacks of might, why can’t rangers?

I gotta agree, versus a competent bane that Rangers have, I wouldn’t be surprised you can wipe out some builds with your playstyle. That’s the case with any build, though. Show us your ranger build and someone will show you a bane to it.

No one should sit in close ranger with a LB, SB is different.

Domino.1359:

Kilger.5490:

Bows just haven’t got enough evasive ability for me, when evasion is a key advantage of ranger.
:(

LB/SB with utilities has 6 (plus 2 dodges – 6) evades (counting stealth, a form of evasion).
S/D/Axe/D with utilities has 6 (counting hornet sting + 2 dodges – 6) evades.
GS/S/D with utilities has 8 (counting GS escape and block + 2 dodges – 8! ) evades.

I can see your argument, GS/S/D will have a slight advantage, but not enough to warrant LB/SB as not evasively competent. The above is just a rough count to show LB/SB isn’t as bad as it sounds, lol.

I’m sorry, I must be blind but I can see only 1 evad on the 2 bows together. Are there other options for you to defend yourself? Yes. Are they evades that don’t require a target to be hit and not have stability? No.

Johje Holan.4607:

I’ve finally found a dual bow build that works!

Title is a joke, if you like melee that’s great. But lets be honest, most people make a Ranger to use bows. Because bows are cool.

I’ve tried all the melee weapons but I just don’t like them. I wanted to use bows. And for WvW. Oh yeah.

Here’s the build that I made after much trial and error. LB and SB are not really complimentary. But this works. Its the most fun I’ve had as a Ranger since I built mine at launch.

Below is the build.

The sigils are either what came on the weapon or because their cheap. I’m saving up for some different ones. Any reccomendations would be much appreciated.

Pets. I’m not set on these two. Not sure what would be best.

Traits can be changed up to provide some variety. This is the base. Sometimes go full into Marksmanship and/or Nature Magic or some combo. The build works with many variations.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATVjEq0xaLLGsw1ig+ga5CEAN3hfg5/+BuG4TWxiWB-TVDBwARuEA7UHJ2+D5U5orSCWaCwqUAwDAwsysU6AmoEMwRAotJoAAIA8cbezb+ckCIPlRA-w

Since your build is not a typical glass cannon, I would rather take runes of speed and get Signet of Renewal instead of Signet of the Hunt. Even with the new changes SotH would only be worth taking with SotW and full zerker 6/6/x/x/x to get its money’s worth. Just my oppinion of course.

If you run both bows I guess TU is good for you, but I just cannot imagine my ranger without HS. I run with LB, Sw/Wh, so I get a blast finisher and leaps out of it too if I want of course. The people I run into either kill me with burst where TU is useless, or condis. With condis I find HS to be so much better.

For food and sigils I would rather go with sigil of strength instead of earth on shortbow and chilli poppers (adds chill at night, and might at daytime). The 2 seconds internal cooldown on Earth is soooo bad for rangers. On longbow I would say its not worth taking. Go with strength there too, as your crit chance is good enough.

Edit: also noticed the sigil of force on shortbow. Accuracy or battle would be better I think.

Domino.1359:

Ehecatl.9172:

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

Adding on to this, thematically speaking carrying two bows and switching between them mid-combat seems extremely impractical. The fact that the two bows don’t compliment each other very well makes complete sense. Even as a hunter you’d likely not keep a longbow and a shortbow strapped to your back and use them interchangeably. You’d also make yourself very vulnerable to surprise attacks by not carrying a melee side-arm, which would be the main weakness of this build as well.

Wow, lol at all the hate to a different style of a Ranger. I’m sure most here are relatively competent if not pro’s at Ranger pvp, I’m sure as heck not pro. We all understand a Ranger is not “supposed” to stick to bows – we’ve heard this for many months. This doesn’t mean one can stop there and drop the bows. I love bows. Period. OP seems to as well. Let’s help him with that, shall we?

Saying that, Bow/Bow has many advantages, including pushbacks, stuns, evades, stealth, and a high powered attack. Switching between the two allows you to add more survivability to a high powered zerker ranger, coupled with 2 dodges and lightening reflex – not counting if you trait to survivability-condi removal/dodge roll removes blind. There’s a lot of hate towards LB in spvp and it’s completely justified but can be competent with the right strategy and in good hands.

On the other hand, switching to GS allows block, a stun and an escape, comparable to SB evades minus the escape. Very well to that. Sword/D has 2-3 evades. Very well. I can see the argument of a melee side arm for a surprise attack, but I fail to see how bow/bow cannot deal with the same surprise attack equally. You cannot block your way prematurely from a surprise attack.

Two bows can compliment each other, meta? No way. In competent hands? Sure.

If you’d read my post again I was speaking from a thematic perspective. Historically speaking, people didn’t carry around two sets of bows and forgo having a melee side-arm.

Two comments pointing out the flavor and themes of the ranger profession doesn’t quite constitute “all the hate” either. Especially when neither of us were saying anything negative about the build presented specifically.

I like bows, but the shortbow won’t do any good on a power build. Also, that build doesn’t bring any sort of condi removal, burst or sustain (dps / health) to face a long condi fight.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNBjYDbkRlSWbZxgFqWDkIUNDhTgZAcAu/h1NqL5SVA-T1CBABmqCCU7PYkSPtUG0wBRAH1PA4JEkiuFKUC+gpvAuAABAOAY5ApAqYYE-w

-Evades (Vigor + Sword 3 & 2)
-Kitting (sword 2 + Lighting Reflexes). It can be used with LB 3 and 4 for some serious kiting. Something like LB 4, 3, LR, switch sword, 2, turn, 2 and cya warrior.
-Protection with evades and health below 90%.
-100% crit with constant fury, and 211% crit damage. On numbers, a single rapid fire attack (not taking into account vulnerability stacks) would do a flat damage of 7k, thats 3-4k againsts heavies.
-LB short cooldowns with traits.
-Some armor.
-Combo with healing spring and WH 5 for team utility.
-6 ACTIVE condi removals.
-2 breakstuns.
-Some minor condi pressure and roots.
-Swiftness for roaming.
-Quickness for stomping and burst.
-Pet one spider for the cc and shared anguish (as a ranged pet, it won’t hurt her that much) and some might stacking with crits.
-Pet two wolf for quick pet switch fear combo + knockdowns.
-You can trade Companion’s Might for Agility training and run with a second wolf for chilling + more knockdowns.

Pew pew to the sky! Enjoy

Edit: Also, you can use the lynx wich will work great with Agility training or Companion’s Might, altough with the latest you’ll need to time the Lynx’s F2 with Hunter’s Shot for the amazing condi damage it brings (Like really, test it on pvp if you have doubts).

With this build you should be able to out-duel anyone and maybe win some 2vs1 fights.

Dual Bow isn’t a “Ranger” …. it’s an Archer.

They’re not called Archers, you’re thinking of a different game.
Even in Guildwars1, Rangers did WAY more DPS with melee, such as Daggers & Necro Touch skills. (b/c Expertise existed, which you newbs all now know as “Initiative” …IE: the rangers strongest DPS characteristic, was stolen by Thieves)

Tribio.8531:

I run myself a LB/SB zerker in WvW, so I’m always very glad to see a fellow true bow ranger..

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Dual bows unite! If only Eagle Eye increased the range of the SB too.

Thanks for the tips too everyone. I’m going to be switching around my traits back and forth as well.

I’ll save up for some better sigils too.

Domino.1359:

Kilger.5490:

Bows just haven’t got enough evasive ability for me, when evasion is a key advantage of ranger.
:(

LB/SB with utilities has 5 (plus 2 dodges – 6) evades (counting stealth, a form of evasion).
S/D/Axe/D with utilities has 6 (counting hornet sting + 2 dodges – 6) evades.
GS/S/D with utilities has 8 (counting GS escape and block + 2 dodges – 8! ) evades.

I can see your argument, GS/S/D will have a slight advantage, but not enough to warrant LB/SB as not evasively competent. The above is just a rough count to show LB/SB isn’t as bad as it sounds, lol.

corrected: ty nagymbear.5280

You and I have very different ideas of what an evade is, and regardless I think you’re counting is off. S/D + SB would out evade and out DPS LB +SB anyday, on full zerk, and even more so on hybrid.

Just adding this here, for all you people complaining about a full bow ranger:

Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.

See the reference to the bow?

A trait that makes all arrows pierce targets is most effective on a dual bow build. The trait that reduces the recharge on bow skills: Yeah, same!

However, is LB/SB meta? Not at all.. But is meta required to have fun in the game? Not at all, as well..

And again, I can only imagine the griefing when I go for the stomp after taking down a class with my dual bows.. I can only hope that one day it will be one of these whine kitties.. ;-)

Tribio.8531:

Just adding this here, for all you people complaining about a full bow ranger:

Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.

See the reference to the bow?

A trait that makes all arrows pierce targets is most effective on a dual bow build. The trait that reduces the recharge on bow skills: Yeah, same!

However, is LB/SB meta? Not at all.. But is meta required to have fun in the game? Not at all, as well..

And again, I can only imagine the griefing when I go for the stomp after taking down a class with my dual bows.. I can only hope that one day it will be one of these whine kitties.. ;-)

I hope for your sake Prysin doesn’t nail you for using that very, very out of touch description of rangers. I do hope you realize that as it stands melee out DPS’s our ranged, we have traits for melee weapons as well. Both bows are fine on their own, but a dual bow build will never be an optimal build, it may work, but you can do much better.

When I compare shortbow with axe/dagger, it seems to me shortbow loses in virtually every category. Damage, durations, targets hit… aside from concussion shot (on a long cooldown), what am I missing here? Especially with a power bias vs condition damage.

For a prolonged 1-1 fight I see more to shortbow since axe is handicapped by needing a riccochet but (otherwise) every time i pick up a shortbow I feel like I just nerfed myself.

Kilger.5490:

When I compare shortbow with axe/dagger, it seems to me shortbow loses in virtually every category. Damage, durations, targets hit… aside from concussion shot (on a long cooldown), what am I missing here? Especially with a power bias vs condition damage.

For a prolonged 1-1 fight I see more to shortbow since axe is handicapped by needing a riccochet but (otherwise) every time i pick up a shortbow I feel like I just nerfed myself.

Honestly the only thing going for the shortbow is the ability to stand at range and hit max DPS, versus with an Axe/Dagger set, to be most efficient, you have to be up in peoples faces for the most part, and can’t really sustain damage at a distance.

In most gameplay options, this doesn’t matter though. In PvP, where Spirit builds have been a heavy part of the meta for a long time, this matters immensely in teamfights where you don’t really have “frontline sustainability” and the spirits you are using and essentially having their potential wasted if you can’t keep them up during a teamfight to support allies (unless they are getting target by single target damage in which case they are fulfilling the purpose of pulling pressure off of something else, which is highly unlikely with anything but the Elite).

My personal opinion is that Axe/Dagger shines more than most other options on a Pet based build. Chill, Perma-Weakness, a cripple, and constant conditions can help keep the pressure from both you and your pet up, and outside of the sword Autoattack, there isn’t a better weapon option to root down a target and “guarantee” pet damage.

Then again, that’s still extremely game-type oriented.

Bryzy.2719:

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

I think you missed the “title is a joke” part. First phrase, second line.

I didn’t miss anything. I was only addressing a rather annoying misconception that periodically perpetuates the Ranger forum.

jcbroe.4329:

Honestly the only thing going for the shortbow is the ability to stand at range and hit max DPS, versus with an Axe/Dagger set, to be most efficient, you have to be up in peoples faces for the most part, and can’t really sustain damage at a distance..

False. Shortbow is an entirely decent weapon. Its access to bleeding and poison makes it a strong condition applier and a strong anti-healing choice when coupled with the Ranger’s naturally heavy access to Chilled. Add in its swift interrupt and excellent evade + backwards mobility skill and you’ve got a weapon that is quite capable offensively and defensively.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Bryzy.2719:

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

I think you missed the “title is a joke” part. First phrase, second line.

I didn’t miss anything. I was only addressing a rather annoying misconception that periodically perpetuates the Ranger forum.

jcbroe.4329:

Honestly the only thing going for the shortbow is the ability to stand at range and hit max DPS, versus with an Axe/Dagger set, to be most efficient, you have to be up in peoples faces for the most part, and can’t really sustain damage at a distance..

False. Shortbow is an entirely decent weapon. Its access to bleeding and poison makes it a strong condition applier and a strong anti-healing choice when coupled with the Ranger’s naturally heavy access to Chilled. Add in its swift interrupt and excellent evade + backwards mobility skill and you’ve got a weapon that is quite capable offensively and defensively.

When did I say it wasn’t decent? Shortbow is and has been the meta PvP weapon option for the entire duration of the games life cycle for a reason.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Bryzy.2719:

Rangers have nothing to do with archery other than being able to do it.

The term “Ranger” does not imply a ranged specialist, neither in GW2 nor in tradition. It refers to a character who is an experienced survivalist and who is attuned to nature.

And they can perform that role just as well with a sword as they can with a bow.

I think you missed the “title is a joke” part. First phrase, second line.

I didn’t miss anything. I was only addressing a rather annoying misconception that periodically perpetuates the Ranger forum.

I’d rather see all the bearbows flood the forums demanding the removal of melee weapons then yet another grammar kitten arguing about semantics. One is funny, the other boring and unnecessary.

warriorjrd.8695:

I hope for your sake Prysin doesn’t nail you for using that very, very out of touch description of rangers.

Heh, it’s the description that ANet has given to the ranger.. Try rolling one in GW2 and see the description of the profession.. It’s fun to see players complain and kitten about a bow/bow ranger, while in the description of ANet melee isn’t even mentioned..

And yeah, it probably isn’t the best cheese out there, but heh: I hate cheese! I rather have fun and experiment/create a build I enjoy playing the most then I’d head of to gw2skills and go for a cheesy build..

Tribio.8531:

warriorjrd.8695:

I hope for your sake Prysin doesn’t nail you for using that very, very out of touch description of rangers.

Heh, it’s the description that ANet has given to the ranger.. Try rolling one in GW2 and see the description of the profession.. It’s fun to see players complain and kitten about a bow/bow ranger, while in the description of ANet melee isn’t even mentioned..

And yeah, it probably isn’t the best cheese out there, but heh: I hate cheese! I rather have fun and experiment/create a build I enjoy playing the most then I’d head of to gw2skills and go for a cheesy build..

Prysin seems to be doing other things so I guess I will nail you for using that very out of touch description. Did you honestly just tell me to roll a ranger? You must be new to these forums. You also must lack the very basic knowledge that despite that very poor description of the ranger, our melee out DPS’s our ranged by quite a margin. Like you have to be trolling now, if you really have faith in that description so much, fight a ranger with your two bows while they use a proper build, and see how that goes. The fact you think ranger is only bows because of some description says enough about your knowledge of rangers, so I recommend you play the class for longer than two hours to get a better understanding of it. Until then, stop talking nonsense.

warriorjrd.8695:

Tribio.8531:

warriorjrd.8695:

I hope for your sake Prysin doesn’t nail you for using that very, very out of touch description of rangers.

Heh, it’s the description that ANet has given to the ranger.. Try rolling one in GW2 and see the description of the profession.. It’s fun to see players complain and kitten about a bow/bow ranger, while in the description of ANet melee isn’t even mentioned..

And yeah, it probably isn’t the best cheese out there, but heh: I hate cheese! I rather have fun and experiment/create a build I enjoy playing the most then I’d head of to gw2skills and go for a cheesy build..

Prysin seems to be doing other things so I guess I will nail you for using that very out of touch description. Did you honestly just tell me to roll a ranger? You must be new to these forums. You also must lack the very basic knowledge that despite that very poor description of the ranger, our melee out DPS’s our ranged by quite a margin. Like you have to be trolling now, if you really have faith in that description so much, fight a ranger with your two bows while they use a proper build, and see how that goes. The fact you think ranger is only bows because of some description says enough about your knowledge of rangers, so I recommend you play the class for longer than two hours to get a better understanding of it. Until then, stop talking nonsense.

Tad arrogant there weren’t we, War? I get the impression Prysin has been in a bad mood lately with his pretty patronising and impatient posts :P

I do agree with everything you’ve said about the Ranger, however I believe you misinterpreted the purpose of the whole quoting-Anet’s-Ranger-description.

I think the point he was trying to make is the irony in that Anet themselves have described what would appear to be a profession designed around optimal bow usage when in fact the profession is far from it. From the perspective of someone brand new to the game who wanted to roll a character with whom he could pew-pew effectively using dual bows, the wiki description would [misleadingly] point him towards a Ranger.

warriorjrd.8695:

so I recommend you play the class for longer than two hours to get a better understanding of it. Until then, stop talking nonsense.

2k+ hours on my ranger, which is my main.. #kthxbye

But yeah, I’m talking nonsense since I have an opinion that differs from your fanboi subject?

Bryzy.2719:

I think the point he was trying to make is the irony in that Anet themselves have described what would appear to be a profession designed around optimal bow usage when in fact the profession is far from it. From the perspective of someone brand new to the game who wanted to roll a character with whom he could pew-pew effectively using dual bows, the wiki description would [misleadingly] point him towards a Ranger.

Thanks Bryzy, I’m glad at least someone understands why I quoted ANet here, instead of just instantly start kittening..

melee rangers = poor man’s stealthless thief rip-off. There, I said it. All I want from Anet is a way to be a petless archer.

Varrg.2704:

melee rangers = poor man’s stealthless thief rip-off. There, I said it. All I want from Anet is a way to be a petless archer.

I don’t know about that. Rangers may not have the burst or the stealth, but they pack much better CC (with dual dogs and a MH sword, you get 3 cripples, 2 knockdowns, and 2 other cc sources). They also stick to targets extremely well.

Not to mention that Rangers are one of (if not) the best damage-buffing classes in the game between Warhorn 5, Spotter, Frost Spirit, and mass vulnerability stacking.