Guild Wars 2

This is only about replacing the 6th Eagle Rune for a Ruby Orb, it’s not about going full Ruby Orbs. For a Berserker build Longbow at 245% crit damage and 60% crit chance unbuffed. Is ruby orb more damage then the 6 set of Eagle? I showed my math below but my math skills might not be up to par or I might be missing something.

I concluded that Ruby Orb is a 2.5% to 3% damage increase in the 6th slot while Eagle is only at max a 2.5% damage increase.

Rune of the Eagle:
the 6 set is 5% damage to targets under 50% health. This would equate to an average 2.5% damage increase.

Ruby Orb
Ruby orb is 20power 2%crit and 14 precision

21 precision = 1% crit at 80

The precision would equal .75% crit chance.

adding .75% crit chance at 245 + 2%(from the orb) bonus damage is a ~1.1% damage increase

Ruby Orb’s 2% critical damage would be a:

1.2% damage increase at 60% crit
+.4% if fury is active
+up to .2% if rune of perception is stacked

according to these calculations I see Ruby Orb adding:

a minimum of 2.3% damage unbuffed to 2.7% damage with fury to 2.9% with rune of perception stacked also without taking the 20 power from the Ruby orb into the equation at all, and the most likely unnoticeable sharpened edges bleed increase and other crit procs if applicable. I’d assume with these things added in Ruby orb would fall right around a 2.5% at a minimum and scale upwards to 3.0% damage increase.

Why don’t you just use Rune of the Ranger, for a 5% damage boost all the time? (almost)

Rune of the Ranger’s 5% is bugged and while in combat the 5% bonus isn’t present a lot of the time. Talked about it in this post before when deciding on rune of the eagle

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Why-use-rune-of-the-eagle-over-ranger/first#post1165625

Yeah I saw that, but it isn’t completely broken and still seems far preferable to Rune of the Eagle or Orbs. Anyway hopefully ANet will fix Rune of the Ranger eventually, if it really is broken.

Quick question… How did you manage to get 245% crit damage and 60% crit chance unbuffed? I am full Berserker (with Ascended quiver) 30-30-10-0-0 but am ‘only’ at 104% (204%?) crit damage and 56% crit chance unbuffed.

So I’m wondering how you managed to get an additional 41% crit damage and 4% crit chance.

Thanks

You get 50 crit damage normally. So if you have 100 crit damage on your hero panel then you actually do 250% damage on a critical hit.

If you are at 104 crit damage unbuffed then you probably have ruby orbs in all of your armor. You would be missing about 80 precision from not having the eagle runes like he has…which would be 4% crit chance.

Gothir.3604:

You get 50 crit damage normally. So if you have 100 crit damage on your hero panel then you actually do 250% damage on a critical hit.

If you are at 104 crit damage unbuffed then you probably have ruby orbs in all of your armor. You would be missing about 80 precision from not having the eagle runes like he has…which would be 4% crit chance.

Ah, so basically my 104% crit damage on the panel means I effectively do 254% damage on a critical hit? That makes more sense then. Thanks

I would just use the number shown in the panel for consistency sake…

My gear is all full of Ruby Orbs, because they provide pretty great benefits considering how inexpensive/easy-to-get they are. Runes, by contrast, are pretty expensive and require a lot of work — and you kind of need to have all of them to get the full effect. I wasn’t about to mess around with them until I had my build, and all my gear, completely polished.

For me, it’s a toss-up between Ruby Orbs or Runes of the Ranger.

6 Runes get me:
+165 Precision
+8% Critical Damage
+5% damage while you have a companion

6 Orbs get me:
+84 Precision
+12% Critical Damage
+120 Power

I guess the runes supposedly work out being more beneficial if you have them all, but not obviously so. I mean, where the heck does that 120 Power go? It’s just gone. And less crit damage? And now, after reading this thread, top it off with reports that the 5% damage increase from the 6th rune isn’t even reliable?!

Either the runes need to be easier to make/get, or they need to be buffed and/or fixed. Orbs are just so good, for their price.

Changed from ranger runes to full orb set just for pure constant dmg. Mainly use my ranger in wvw only. Whit food and oil I get 74% crit change, that’s 94% whit fury and 118% critical dmg. Useing skills QZ, runspeed and spirit for random 10% dmg. inc.

My build gives me sofar #1 6000dmg avarage of 4800dmg to range of 1500. #2 sofar max 18.500dmg in 2.5 second useing QZ and #5 constant 2000 to 2500dmg giveing to single targer over 20k dmg. Skill 2 and 5 can be used whit in time of QZ total of over 40k dmg. In that point Target will try to run away giveing me extra 10% more dmg.

I use only LB and pet for single target. In zerg, allways dead..