With the announcement on the new ascended armor and weapons coming out, I feel like a load of new balance problems are going to emerge. As it is, Anet doesnt have the resources to fix existing bugs given thier small balance team, let alone balance for the incoming ascended gear…
With new gear stats, all skills and traits will need to be revised
And since dmg coeffiecients are so different for all classes. (IE warriors and thief are notorious for high dmg coefficeints and rangers have low ones (bc of the pet)) I expect to see a lot of problems.
I’m not qqing already, just wondering what thoughts you guys have on this issue?
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
But i doubt there will be as many problems as a few people think, i’m sure Anet isn’t going to allow stats to inflate more than they’ve found it’d work.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
This
Every single powercreep update in Gear … consumables .. and … just about everything else… continually makes our pets and thus US —> WORSE b/c those pets do NOT receive those buffs/enhancements like they really should. (in PvE … NOT in sPvP where you can’t even use any of that crap in the first place)
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
This
Every single powercreep update in Gear … consumables .. and … just about everything else… continually makes our pets and thus US —> WORSE b/c those pets do NOT receive those buffs/enhancements like they really should. (in PvE … NOT in sPvP where you can’t even use any of that crap in the first place)
I wonder if they have the tech to make your pets stats increase the more Ascended Gear you’re wearing. IE If you have a 0 Ascended Gear your pets are as strong as now, but if you have say a full set they’ll get a boost to bring them up to par.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
This
Every single powercreep update in Gear … consumables .. and … just about everything else… continually makes our pets and thus US —> WORSE b/c those pets do NOT receive those buffs/enhancements like they really should. (in PvE … NOT in sPvP where you can’t even use any of that crap in the first place)
I wonder if they have the tech to make your pets stats increase the more Ascended Gear you’re wearing. IE If you have a 0 Ascended Gear your pets are as strong as now, but if you have say a full set they’ll get a boost to bring them up to par.
I think thats kinda wishful thinking… at current they dont even have the technology to make our arrows not miss when people side strafe…. (feels like ANET is going for gimmicky stuff without addressing core concerns as always)
They definitely have the Tech. If Fortifying Bond can do it with really complicated (in many cases), dynamic Stacking boon ARRAYS & divergent time durations….. then they can easily transfer more static values like Precision, Toughness, & even Celestial/Divinity stuff or Melandru & Dolyak’s T6. (even if they decide to be kittens about it and only transfer like 50% those values … anything would be better than NOTHING at this point)
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
This
Every single powercreep update in Gear … consumables .. and … just about everything else… continually makes our pets and thus US —> WORSE b/c those pets do NOT receive those buffs/enhancements like they really should. (in PvE … NOT in sPvP where you can’t even use any of that crap in the first place)
I wonder if they have the tech to make your pets stats increase the more Ascended Gear you’re wearing. IE If you have a 0 Ascended Gear your pets are as strong as now, but if you have say a full set they’ll get a boost to bring them up to par.
I think thats kinda wishful thinking… at current they dont even have the technology to make our arrows not miss when people side strafe…. (feels like ANET is going for gimmicky stuff without addressing core concerns as always)
Uh, that’s a game mechanic not a bug, they could very easily turn the projectile speeds up to the point their undodgeable, but then you lose a layer of skill.
In GW1 you could dodge projectiles via strafing and there was nothing you could do about it, in GW2 you can also dodge projectiles via strafing but you can always just aim your skills like I normally do so they can’t dodge kitten. Thanks Smite for making me a skill shooting beast =D.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
To be completely honest, I don’t consider the ascended gear that huge risk to the game balance. Sure, the question about how will our damage and survivability scale with it, and whether the pet will be taken into consideration here is important though
However, we all knew t those pieces are scheduled to be introduced at some point before the end of the 2013. Unfortunately, it would be really difficult to validate a claim that introduction of new pieces of gear should be postponed because of issues of one class. Although I would prefer if they could finally add those missing stats combinations to already existing categories of the ascended equipment first.
And I’m not nearly as worried about potential effects on the game balance the ascended gear may have, as I’m concerned about the idea of adding more traits and utility skills to the game, when they are still unable to provide decent balance between those that are already in.
I’m more worried about whether or not we’re going to get shafted because the whole our skills scale like kitten (compared to other profs) and our pet gets NO bonus for our gear.
This
Every single powercreep update in Gear … consumables .. and … just about everything else… continually makes our pets and thus US —> WORSE b/c those pets do NOT receive those buffs/enhancements like they really should. (in PvE … NOT in sPvP where you can’t even use any of that crap in the first place)
I wonder if they have the tech to make your pets stats increase the more Ascended Gear you’re wearing. IE If you have a 0 Ascended Gear your pets are as strong as now, but if you have say a full set they’ll get a boost to bring them up to par.
thats easy, just give ascended items a boost to “Pet stats” like BM does. The boost can be invisible, as in, not written down in the infocard of the item, to avoid unnecessary whining from those who got beaten by a ranger.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
One major selling point that got me hooked was that there wasn’t supposed to be any gear progression other than aesthethics after getting exotics. Adding the trinkets already felt like selling out. The day ascended armor is introduced will be the day I quit. Because I see where this is going and I do not like it.
Mysterious Old Geek
Co-founder of Flying Pink Unicorns [PWNY], Ring of Fire
One major selling point that got me hooked was that there wasn’t supposed to be any gear progression other than aesthethics after getting exotics. Adding the trinkets already felt like selling out. The day ascended armor is introduced will be the day I quit. Because I see where this is going and I do not like it.
Well you should’ve quit a LONG time ago because when they first introduced ascended they said there would be full set of ascended gear by the end of the year.
Keep in mind, the only reasons Ascended was implemented was because Anet kittened up with exotics and how quickly everyone got them and then sat around crying they were done. Not to mention they felt exotics —-→ legendary was too big of a leap in terms of grind so Ascended is supposed to fill that and prepare you I guess (iDK).
Not to mention, they’ve already said they won’t be adding better armor (the second a tier above ascended is added I’m gone), and through infusions and Fractals they can keep the gear treadmill players happy via get better infusions!
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
One major selling point that got me hooked was that there wasn’t supposed to be any gear progression other than aesthethics after getting exotics. Adding the trinkets already felt like selling out. The day ascended armor is introduced will be the day I quit. Because I see where this is going and I do not like it.
Well you should’ve quit a LONG time ago because when they first introduced ascended they said there would be full set of ascended gear by the end of the year.
Keep in mind, the only reasons Ascended was implemented was because Anet kittened up with exotics and how quickly everyone got them and then sat around crying they were done. Not to mention they felt exotics —--> legendary was too big of a leap in terms of grind so Ascended is supposed to fill that and prepare you I guess (iDK).
Not to mention, they’ve already said they won’t be adding better armor (the second a tier above ascended is added I’m gone), and through infusions and Fractals they can keep the gear treadmill players happy via get better infusions!
The reason I haven’t quit yet is because I still find the game somewhat enjoyable at times. As for ascended gear, I’ve been boycotting it since its’ release. To be fair; I ran around in a set of blue armor when the released it (not because I didn’t have exotics, it’s because I wanted to know if skill>gear…) and still did well 1 vs. 1(up to 3)
It’s also the reason I have a Ranger as my main, with the bad AI in this game I find myself required to be more aware of the situation than most other professions. To me; it has kept me going and kept pushing me to improve my own gameplay. When the gap of skill<gear becomes to great, I quit. I see this happening if ANet keeps up the gear threadmill, and I will not stick around to see it.
Mysterious Old Geek
Co-founder of Flying Pink Unicorns [PWNY], Ring of Fire
One major selling point that got me hooked was that there wasn’t supposed to be any gear progression other than aesthethics after getting exotics. Adding the trinkets already felt like selling out. The day ascended armor is introduced will be the day I quit. Because I see where this is going and I do not like it.
Well you should’ve quit a LONG time ago because when they first introduced ascended they said there would be full set of ascended gear by the end of the year.
Keep in mind, the only reasons Ascended was implemented was because Anet kittened up with exotics and how quickly everyone got them and then sat around crying they were done. Not to mention they felt exotics —--> legendary was too big of a leap in terms of grind so Ascended is supposed to fill that and prepare you I guess (iDK).
Not to mention, they’ve already said they won’t be adding better armor (the second a tier above ascended is added I’m gone), and through infusions and Fractals they can keep the gear treadmill players happy via get better infusions!
The reason I haven’t quit yet is because I still find the game somewhat enjoyable at times. As for ascended gear, I’ve been boycotting it since its’ release. To be fair; I ran around in a set of blue armor when the released it (not because I didn’t have exotics, it’s because I wanted to know if skill>gear…) and still did well 1 vs. 1(up to 3)
It’s also the reason I have a Ranger as my main, with the bad AI in this game I find myself required to be more aware of the situation than most other professions. To me; it has kept me going and kept pushing me to improve my own gameplay. When the gap of skill<gear becomes to great, I quit. I see this happening if ANet keeps up the gear threadmill, and I will not stick around to see it.
My ranger was in level 40 greens for like 2 months when I hit 80 xD, didn’t get exotics until the month after jugs of karma were awarded for dailies/monthly and still had no issue doing explorable modes and WvW.
But like Anet already said, they don’t plan on going past ascended gear, so I don’t think you have anything to worry about in terms of gear treadmills unless you play fractals a lot.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
I’m just gonna assume the stats increased will be tiny and it’s more to be able to slot either more agony resistance or something similar to be introduced for another place, that said I’m already thinking once more on the celestial armor that is full ascended quality :o
