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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

Hey Arenanet, you overnerfed Druid.

now Staff is super slow at generating energy, and we no longer start off with CF energy when we spawn. And the amount we have, resets every time we are defeated.

This was over-nerf.

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Posted by: Unholy Pillager.3791

Unholy Pillager.3791

It resets every time you go out of combat (unlike Death/Reaper Shroud). It cannot be entered into with partial charge (unlike Death/Reaper Shroud). And, to top it all off, you need about a minute+ of continuous fighting in order to go into it once. It is all but worthless in this state. I don’t see how it could have made it out of testing. Nobody in their right mind could use this and think that it is balanced in PvP. Fights are over and done with before it can be used once, then all progress on it just slips away. Celestial Avatar may as well not exist in PvP.

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Posted by: Sandpit.3467

Sandpit.3467

Celestial Avatar may as well not exist in PvP.

It’s working as ANet intended then

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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

I want my beta druid back. CAF was so much more fun back then.

… I still want tengu.

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Posted by: MashMash.1645

MashMash.1645

Rangers getting shafted. Again.

Working as intended.

They will never fix this. How many years have we been waiting now?

Pre-Ordered HoT | Recently started to get what I paid for – may spend $$$

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

Druid is the single most worst MMO class expansion I’ve ever seen. This shows who ever designed it fundamentally does not know what they are doing with the class. It clearly shows that they do not play the class.

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Posted by: Zalani.9827

Zalani.9827

I enjoyed the beta Druid much more tbh.

Jadis Narnia-Sylvari Ranger of [EDGE]
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Posted by: Natzo.4019

Natzo.4019

Guys, please. We’re rangers, we should be used to getting shafted.

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Posted by: Hans.8467

Hans.8467

I want my beta druid back. CAF was so much more fun back then.

+1

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

I enjoyed the beta Druid much more tbh.

At least we’ll always have the memories…

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Posted by: Sina.9208

Sina.9208

I enjoyed the beta Druid much more tbh.

At least we’ll always have the memories…

I already started forgetting.

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Posted by: Hans.8467

Hans.8467

Bye druid, dragon hunter here I come

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Posted by: Aleksander Suburb.4287

Aleksander Suburb.4287

We need a new F5 skill. On F5 your class changes permanent to a useful class.

Sry but now the ranger has two useless class mechanics …

Guild Wars balancing concept: Never change a ruined system!

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Posted by: Rizo.9534

Rizo.9534

I’m glad that I don’t play gw2 for next few months, so I don’t see that awful class design.

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Posted by: worminator.5174

worminator.5174

Just remove the druidclass the way it is now. Our dev doesnt know anything about this spec.
View from PvP:
1. CAF cooldown 10 seconds. Why? Show me a good build that can gain full astralforce within 10 seconds. We can get a 30s cd and wouldnt noticed that a cd exists.
2. AF before match starts: We get full AF-bar, which hits zero when the match starts.

Just two examples that our dev has no clue what he is doing.
If he does not know what is working maybe he should leave it in the state of bwe3.
He removed everything that made the druid different from other classes.

3.Lingering light: Instead of a special whisp we only get a buff for our teammates. Awesome bad idea, no real synergy with af generation.

4. af generation minor: This is a healing spec and then he nerfs af generation via healing by 1 % reduction. And then he think we cannot do our maths and see that 200% from nothing (af per damage) still is nothing.

Let us generate af with healing, dont make us like any other damage spec like warrior or necro!

5. The worst thing. We will hear nothing substantial from our dev! Just something like “iam working on everything” (but will change nothing). I want to know what has come to his mind when he decided this changes. It was intentional from his side.
I come to the conclusion that he either dont know what he is doing or that he was aware that he was destroying the druid on purpose.
If its the last thing then pls tell us. Then i dont think about druid anymore and start to deal with the fact, that we are the only class who didnt get a specialization.

(edited by worminator.5174)

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Posted by: Cheong.3862

Cheong.3862

well BIG BIG FAIL THIS TIME ..
really disappointed from dev team ..you can take this druid to WOW gameplay WHERE ITS SHOULD BE with this silly nerf ..i aint buy ULT addition for this useless druid ..i play only ranger ..and now I have no desire to play at all ..sure not that silly DRUID ..I WANT BETA DRUID BACK !!!

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Posted by: Cheong.3862

Cheong.3862

anet one last thing ..YOU DESTROYED THE WEEKEND FOR ALL THE RANGERS !!
so wake UP !!

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Posted by: Tavastia.6527

Tavastia.6527

too bad you guys game them $50 for a few new, terrible skills

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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

Just remove the druidclass the way it is now. Our dev doesnt know anything about this spec.
View from PvP:
1. CAF cooldown 10 seconds. Why? Show me a good build that can gain full astralforce within 10 seconds. We can get a 30s cd and wouldnt noticed that a cd exists.
2. AF before match starts: We get full AF-bar, which hits zero when the match starts.

Just two examples that our dev has no clue what he is doing.
If he does not know what is working maybe he should leave it in the state of bwe3.
He removed everything that made the druid different from other classes.

3.Lingering light: Instead of a special whisp we only get a buff for our teammates. Awesome bad idea, no real synergy with af generation.

4. af generation minor: This is a healing spec and then he nerfs af generation via healing by 1 % reduction. And then he think we cannot do our maths and see that 200% from nothing (af per damage) still is nothing.

Let us generate af with healing, dont make us like any other damage spec like warrior or necro!

5. The worst thing. We will hear nothing substantial from our dev! Just something like “iam working on everything” (but will change nothing). I want to know what has come to his mind when he decided this changes. It was intentional from his side.
I come to the conclusion that he either dont know what he is doing or that he was aware that he was destroying the druid on purpose.
If its the last thing then pls tell us. Then i dont think about druid anymore and start to deal with the fact, that we are the only class who didnt get a specialization.

I agree with this. Druid is suppose to be a healer spec regardless of how many people cry about it. Irenio had it right the first time in the beta. Healing gives us AF and we can enter in and out of CAF often to do our main role.

Irenio has faltered, however. Adding mechanics such as a 10 second cooldown to force Druids into a more damage dealing role regardless of how bad they may be at it and the AF generation rates, though it’s nice to see damage do something, they also made healing so much less rewarding.

Lingering Light was also a bad change. From a skillful passive with a tell that allows for counterplay to a completely passive blind spam fest.

… I still want tengu.

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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

#givebetadruidback

… I still want tengu.

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

It is pretty simple, they should either:

- remove astral force degeneration out of combat and keep the CD and low rates

- keep the degeneration and insane the bar filling by an obscene margin. If its gonna be like adrenaline it needs to be available like adrenaline.

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Posted by: LegallyBinding.4937

LegallyBinding.4937

I am not playing a Druid until it gets fixed. Just disappointing to play right now.

Scrapper is prettty cool though.

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Posted by: Cheong.3862

Cheong.3862

i’m really want to know who decide to made all this change from beta . he gonna have some nuk nuk on his door )

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

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I agree with this. Druid is suppose to be a healer spec regardless of how many people cry about it. Irenio had it right the first time in the beta. Healing gives us AF and we can enter in and out of CAF often to do our main role.

Irenio has faltered, however. Adding mechanics such as a 10 second cooldown to force Druids into a more damage dealing role regardless of how bad they may be at it and the AF generation rates, though it’s nice to see damage do something, they also made healing so much less rewarding.

It was announced as a supporting class yet, not a full blown healing bot. That is the problem right here, GW2 wasn’t made to have a healer. You guys think Druid as a full new class when it is not. It still have to choose 2 other specializations.

Sure, tell those rangers to play ranger if they want to DPS when other professions have new tools to play with. No other professions have been pigeon holed, but the Druid.

As for the changes for ’’damage’’, they didn’t change anything to buff damage. Everything is the same since they showed Druid. The CA cooldown was to remove the CA spam with healing and also Celestial Shadow. So seriously lol, it was not for damage.

Usefulness :

Open PvE ? How you’re gonna tag ? How useful are you with your healing ? No.
Dungeon speed run ? No.
WvW ? Can see a niche, but CA generation is bad. Maybe.
Raid ? Maybe.
PvP ? Maybe in a structured team or bunker. CC condi druid is a monster in PvP.

(edited by Krispera.5087)

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

Lol, ESL players literally 1v3ing on druid

Yaniam [Mesmer]

^ Usually only characer that i play on

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Highest-PVP-Trueshot-hits/first#post5657812

you see this Devs , True shot low cooldown yes its PvE but this much damage a Ranger can not do Even with perfect stacks and Signet of the wild on a Maul or even a RF will Struggle to get this high.

does this give you reason to nurf our damage or AF production , or does this give you more reason to Nurf other CLASSES.

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

Phoebe Ascension.8437

A clarification is necessary. Irenio is developper. All his work led to the BWE 3 Druid version. Roy (and Jon peters in lesser extend) is responsible for balance. We now have conclusive prove he doesn’t play ranger (or is totally a dud at it), and hates rangers. We had one good heal, and he put on twitter a few hours later ‘that is not intended, we will look at it’. Few hours later got overnerfed. This druid over the top nerf has his signature and ranger hate all over it. Roy is responsible, who is not the ranger developper. He’s purely responsible for revenant (and warrior to lesser extend).

Legendary weapons can be hidden now!
No excuse anymore for not giving ‘hide mounts’-option
No thanks to unidentified weapons.

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Posted by: ChillyChinaman.6057

ChillyChinaman.6057

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Highest-PVP-Trueshot-hits/first#post5657812

you see this Devs , True shot low cooldown yes its PvE but this much damage a Ranger can not do Even with perfect stacks and Signet of the wild on a Maul or even a RF will Struggle to get this high.

does this give you reason to nurf our damage or AF production , or does this give you more reason to Nurf other CLASSES.

Dragonhunter’s Trueshot doing too much damage? The proper response is of course to nerf Druids some more. I’m sorry, I mean fine tune them.

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

Year 1 Gw2 launch all over again.
How is chronomancer and reaper not nerfed yet?

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Posted by: Cheong.3862

Cheong.3862

A clarification is necessary. Irenio is developper. All his work led to the BWE 3 Druid version. Roy (and Jon peters in lesser extend) is responsible for balance. We now have conclusive prove he doesn’t play ranger (or is totally a dud at it), and hates rangers. We had one good heal, and he put on twitter a few hours later ‘that is not intended, we will look at it’. Few hours later got overnerfed. This druid over the top nerf has his signature and ranger hate all over it. Roy is responsible, who is not the ranger developper. He’s purely responsible for revenant (and warrior to lesser extend).

so roy is responsible for all this nerf on ranger? ROY preper you gonna be dead style ISIS !!!