E wyvern location is a little ridiculous
i am a little , since the basins meta event seems bugged of late, there should be atleast a way to get to the canopy with the event (but obvously at the risk of face hoards of creatures and needing higher mastery in gliding)
right now if you try to go up via updraft you just die so are forced to do the meta event.
i am a little , since the basins meta event seems bugged of late, there should be atleast a way to get to the canopy with the event (but obvously at the risk of face hoards of creatures and needing higher mastery in gliding)
right now if you try to go up via updraft you just die so are forced to do the meta event.
I think you are talking abut the fire wyvern which is in the Verdant Brink canopy. I mean the electric wyvern which is found in the Dragon’s Stand area. The meta even in DS is much more difficult to complete.
Having to go through the entire Dragon’s Stand meta event chain to get a pet just doesn’t make sense. No pet has been behind something like that before. It would be fine if it was just really hidden somewhere or only spawns at certain times, but I am kind of upset with this current location for it. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Yea this was bad design just like the 400 hp grind and mastery gates were also bad design and changed. They make mistakes. Time they realized this was one of them.
ranger pet is an important part of them. Gating them behind these meta events that most maps fail, makes it basically a lottery on getting one of these because you need to be on at the right time at the right place on the right server map. Too many variables.
Historically in GW2, hard events over time, the community tends to lose interest in completing, and population goes down on those events to the point where they become impossible to complete even for the few that do come to fight it (Triple Worm). Same will happen to these gated events that pets are locked behind and then it will be impossible for rangers to get, even if they wanted to beat these events.
As we see now already, my theory has come true. Already people are intentionally failing the Dragon Stance meta event to farm mastery. Now that leaves Rangers without that pet, in a no win situation.
Bad game design Anet. Simple as that
Yes, I agree 100%
Having to go through a 2 hour event chain JUST for a pet is a bit on the ridiculous side.
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i am a little , since the basins meta event seems bugged of late, there should be atleast a way to get to the canopy with the event (but obvously at the risk of face hoards of creatures and needing higher mastery in gliding)
right now if you try to go up via updraft you just die so are forced to do the meta event.
You can get to the pet without doing any events. Just start from the south WP. You go to the left and get to top of the mountain, from there you can get to the pet.
It’s not just electric wyvern, the juvenile tiger is also at the end of the event chains.
It’s not just electric wyvern, the juvenile tiger is also at the end of the event chains.
Aww…I was afraid of that. Those are the 2 pets I want the most.
Yeah, it’s an awful design decision.
Same with the tiger.
Make them rare – fine.
But, don’t make it into a frustrating race.
“Turns out when people play the game, they don’t admire your feet at all.” sephiroth
It’s not just the wyvern, a lot of planning for this game causes major headaches and is utterly pointless, like certain obstacles in order to reach something.
I agree, that no pet should be hidden behind any event, totally absurd. Animals normally roam around the land, they don’t hide, hence shouldn’t even be hidden.
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I think it’s fine. Gives people something to shoot for. It reminds me of the UW spider. Also, I completed Dragon Stand the other night when I fell into a guild run map and I can see the event being completed on a regular basis soon enough.
It’s a nice special reward for rangers I think.
wow.. you guys really crying about everything
this is too hard, this needs to be easier, the new legendary needs to be free for everyone. oh no i have no idea what to do in the gam,e. it has no content.
jees. i love that those 2 pets are super hard to get. and i dont care not to use them since as i have more than enough other pets to chose from and it will feel so awesome if i finally get them. like a real achievment.
the game is not even out for a week! and you allready call something rare that you have by now. wtf is wrong with you guys
wow.. you guys really crying about everything
this is too hard, this needs to be easier, the new legendary needs to be free for everyone. oh no i have no idea what to do in the gam,e. it has no content.
jees. i love that those 2 pets are super hard to get. and i dont care not to use them since as i have more than enough other pets to chose from and it will feel so awesome if i finally get them. like a real achievment.
the game is not even out for a week! and you allready call something rare that you have by now. wtf is wrong with you guys
This is the only thing I don’t like. I like things being hard and having some places locked behind masteries. The problem with this is that it makes getting the pet out of the ranger’s control. I know some people got lucky and found a guild run on the map, but all of the maps I have gotten on have failed. I assume this is also true for others (maybe I just have terrible luck). The point I’m trying to make is that a pet should not be in a position where the ranger is kept from it due to other people not listening to instructions.
wow.. you guys really crying about everything
this is too hard, this needs to be easier, the new legendary needs to be free for everyone. oh no i have no idea what to do in the gam,e. it has no content.
jees. i love that those 2 pets are super hard to get. and i dont care not to use them since as i have more than enough other pets to chose from and it will feel so awesome if i finally get them. like a real achievment.
the game is not even out for a week! and you allready call something rare that you have by now. wtf is wrong with you guys
I would be ok if it was super hard for ME to attain it. But that’s not the case is it? It doesn’t matter how hard it is for ME, as it currently stands it 100% hinges on whether the rest of the players in the map finishes the meta event.
In fact, I could just sit on my kitten and wait for the rest of the players to finish the map and then get myself to the E wyvern and tiger. That’s not being difficult for me. That’s gating behind an unrealistic condition(because DS events are not to be joked at) to be met just for me to get a pet.
But whatever. If they fix this, cool. If they don’t, no point arguing about it, I’ll just have to find a map that has good listening players. Which was and is hard to come by after 4 days of continuous LFG DS map finding for me. So yea I’m a little kittening disappointed, thanks.
I think it’s fine. Gives people something to shoot for. It reminds me of the UW spider. Also, I completed Dragon Stand the other night when I fell into a guild run map and I can see the event being completed on a regular basis soon enough.
It’s a nice special reward for rangers I think.
Saying it gives people something “to shoot for” assumes we all love this kind of content and will enjoy “shooting” for it.
A bit like saying that everyone should shoot to be a top footballer.
Not everyone even wants to be a footballer, let alone a top one.
At the end of the day, pets are Ranger’s class mechanic, so gating them behind these type of hurdles is not OK.
If they wanted to put a special, rare, rainbow tiger behind a limited time, event success related, jumping puzzle nightmare, then that would be different, I guess.
Although, I still wouldn’t recommend it, as people who don’t enjoy that kind of stuff would still be frustrated.
But, this is just a regular tiger and the only one available, so it should be available fairly easily.
Either that, or the pet mechanic should be usable on any other pet, at the very least.
“Turns out when people play the game, they don’t admire your feet at all.” sephiroth
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If these pets are in hard to get to places fine , but locked behind meta events means any amount of mastery training becomes a tad pointless as these masteries could be used to access Hard to get to locations where these pets could be .
so instead of waiting for the meta events , you could Work on a few masteries and get to that hard location and find the pet in the players own time as not everyone has time to wait around for meta events to be finished.
I think it’s fine. Gives people something to shoot for. It reminds me of the UW spider. Also, I completed Dragon Stand the other night when I fell into a guild run map and I can see the event being completed on a regular basis soon enough.
It’s a nice special reward for rangers I think.
I understand what you are saying and it would be a cool personal reward. However as someone else already said, it is not up to me to complete. Its up to following a zerg for a couple hours and hoping we succeed. I would like it if it was personally overcoming an objective in my way. If I had to solo a boss or event chain then it would be fine because it would be up to me to earn it.
Also about the HoM pets (you’re talking about the black widow right?), those are identical game-play wise to other existing pets. The electric wyvern and tiger have f2 skills that are completely unique to them. Imagine if you were a mesmer and had to go through DS to get one of the shatter skills, but you weren’t able to because the maps kept failing. It should be up to the player to earn it instead of relying on 100 random people. Not everyone gets lucky and finds an organized guild doing it.
Also about the HoM pets (you’re talking about the black widow right?), those are identical game-play wise to other existing pets. The electric wyvern and tiger have f2 skills that are completely unique to them.
Exactly.
This is a completely different situation and it’s like it was designed by someone who is completely clueless about Ranger, frankly.
In WoW, you have the Spirit Beasts, for BM Hunters, which are rare (and have unique abilities), but it’s still only a matter of having patience.
Also, there are lots of them, at this point, so even on the busiest of realms you should be able to find at least one fairly quickly.
Whereas, in this, they have gated two exclusive F2 ability pets behind a huge wall of obstacles.
So, you can’t even “just” be patient – you have to be patient and jump through hoops, quite possibly for days.
Just to get your class mechanics.
“Turns out when people play the game, they don’t admire your feet at all.” sephiroth
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If they locked a new necro minion behind group content like this, or a new elemental for ele, people would be in an uproar.
With the hero point change yesterday, Ranger is the ONLY class that requires you to play group content (zerg content, not group content) to complete their class and get their core functionality. Its bad enough that more and more content is going behind group content, but this is just atrocious.
And for the folks that say its an accomplishment to get it, how is that? The ranger is, but most standards, the weakest class in a zerg. So if you join a zerg and get these pets, all that means is that you were lucky enough to have more friends who carried to you get your class features. that is something to be proud of right there.
I completely diagree. 2h event chain for a pet how do they DARE to make something remotely hard to obtain. A pet that will be usable for the rest of all times on your ranger. 2 hours, come on people.
Do you want everything handed to you for free? Then you also complain about too easy content. If you want this wyvern then do this minimal effort.
wow.. you guys really crying about everything
this is too hard, this needs to be easier, the new legendary needs to be free for everyone. oh no i have no idea what to do in the gam,e. it has no content.
jees. i love that those 2 pets are super hard to get. and i dont care not to use them since as i have more than enough other pets to chose from and it will feel so awesome if i finally get them. like a real achievment.
the game is not even out for a week! and you allready call something rare that you have by now. wtf is wrong with you guys
This is the generation nowadays. sadly. Too much entitlement.
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I think it’s fine. Gives people something to shoot for. It reminds me of the UW spider. Also, I completed Dragon Stand the other night when I fell into a guild run map and I can see the event being completed on a regular basis soon enough.
It’s a nice special reward for rangers I think.
Saying it gives people something “to shoot for” assumes we all love this kind of content and will enjoy “shooting” for it.
A bit like saying that everyone should shoot to be a top footballer.
Not everyone even wants to be a footballer, let alone a top one.
At the end of the day, pets are Ranger’s class mechanic, so gating them behind these type of hurdles is not OK.
If they wanted to put a special, rare, rainbow tiger behind a limited time, event success related, jumping puzzle nightmare, then that would be different, I guess.
Although, I still wouldn’t recommend it, as people who don’t enjoy that kind of stuff would still be frustrated.
But, this is just a regular tiger and the only one available, so it should be available fairly easily.
Either that, or the pet mechanic should be usable on any other pet, at the very least.
If these pets are in hard to get to places fine , but locked behind meta events means any amount of mastery training becomes a tad pointless as these masteries could be used to access Hard to get to locations where these pets could be .
so instead of waiting for the meta events , you could Work on a few masteries and get to that hard location and find the pet in the players own time as not everyone has time to wait around for meta events to be finished.
Couldn’t agree more.
Guys… the game is out for merely one week, just give it time. Really… I don’t get why you have to get all the pets within the first kittening week… The event will be ran the next 2-3 years kitten …
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I completely diagree. 2h event chain for a pet how do they DARE to make something remotely hard to obtain. A pet that will be usable for the rest of all times on your ranger. 2 hours, come on people.
Do you want everything handed to you for free? Then you also complain about too easy content. If you want this wyvern then do this minimal effort.
For real?
A big problem that I keep seeing all over the GW2 forums/reddit, is that people do not understand what legitimately difficult/challenging content is. There is this insane ‘counter-qq’ QQ happening now, as a backlash to all the people complaining about various things. If you’re going to try and shut people down, do it with logic and make sure that your argument makes sense for each individual case.
When you lock something behind something else that is almost entirely out of your control, that is no longer a challenge, it is a gate. If they wanted to make getting this pet a challenge that you had to work for, they could have done it in other ways.
Let’s say you work as an engineer and there’s an excellent machine in a store room somewhere that will help you do your job better, in a potentially vital way. The problem is, even though the machine would otherwise be easy to get to, everyone in the building must complete a logic puzzle within a set time-period before you, specifically, can use it. The vast majority of people in the building may not have any interest in using the machine, because they are not engineers, so they have less incentive to complete the logic puzzle. In order to get a good shot at this, you must drop everything you are doing and wait in a que for 2 hours to participate. You find the puzzle easy every time, but a few people keep making mistakes, costing you 2 hours of your time and your chance at using the machine.
That is not fun, or a challenge, or a way to enhance a sense of reward for putting in work.
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I actually like the idea of having to put some effort in getting the pets. I get that it can be frustrating to fail this event over and over, but it’s actually a really fun event. Just wait a week until people start organizing it. The problem here is the mentality of wanting everything and wanting it right now, the expansion’s not even out for a week yet. Chill out a bit, the success rate of this event will skyrocket soon enough.
i am a little , since the basins meta event seems bugged of late, there should be atleast a way to get to the canopy with the event (but obvously at the risk of face hoards of creatures and needing higher mastery in gliding)
right now if you try to go up via updraft you just die so are forced to do the meta event.
You can get to the pet without doing any events. Just start from the south WP. You go to the left and get to top of the mountain, from there you can get to the pet.
… is this true?
wow.. you guys really crying about everything
this is too hard, this needs to be easier, the new legendary needs to be free for everyone. oh no i have no idea what to do in the gam,e. it has no content.
jees. i love that those 2 pets are super hard to get. and i dont care not to use them since as i have more than enough other pets to chose from and it will feel so awesome if i finally get them. like a real achievment.
the game is not even out for a week! and you allready call something rare that you have by now. wtf is wrong with you guys
This is the generation nowadays. sadly. Too much entitlement.
I think everyone (reasonable) can see that we aren’t the ones racing around this sub-forum yelling at people and talking like a petulant child.
Also, think of who makes up the “older” generation, now.
In the UK, it’s a bunch of 1960s swingers and punk rockers.
Many of whom behave in a more child-like way than their own grandchildren.
…and at the same time, some of them still have the temerity to try to criticise younger people.
Normally, just to try to get their own way.
Selfish hypocrisy, that no one with a brain should ever fall for.
This isn’t the selfless, older generation who fought bravely in the war, anymore.
They got a kind of “free pass” based on what their generation sacrificed for us.
All older people should be shown respect, but in the case of the ones who don’t show any respect for others, that is unlikely to happen for long.
“Turns out when people play the game, they don’t admire your feet at all.” sephiroth
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