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Posted by: mamourrir.9641

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Do you guys prefer torch or dagger ? Please explain why.

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Posted by: nldixon.8514

nldixon.8514

What about axe and warhorn?

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Posted by: Sco.9615

Sco.9615

What about axe and warhorn?

Those obviously were not allowed choices and must be omitted from the discussion. Thank you for understanding.
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Posted by: Rottaran Owain.6789

Rottaran Owain.6789

I love my torch, with offhand training, bonfire’s radius becomes much bigger (about as big as an untraited flame trap), and the 6 second burn on #4 is nothing to scoff at either.

Bonfire also acts as an 8 second fire field, allowing your teammates to use it for a great boost to their damage output either via blast finishers for might, or projectile/whirls for more burning.

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Posted by: JMOR.3708

JMOR.3708

Warhorn, but I play WvW so my situation is a bit unique.

If I had to choose either the torch or the dagger, I’d have to go with the torch. You get more utility and damage out of it than what is provided by the dagger.

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Posted by: Luriyu.6873

Luriyu.6873

depend… With torch you get a combo field (hey more damage), with dagger you get an extra evade.

all very much situational. If you tend to stick around a whole bunch of people torch provides more utility. if you tend to be a soloist then dagger.

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Posted by: Kishandreth.2798

Kishandreth.2798

I’d vote dagger, but then i pvp a lot. Cripple and poison is too good to pass up, the extra evade is a bonus. Torch would just be burning, and more burning, other then dropping bonfire to destealth thieves it gives no survivability.

Guess in PVE torch is a much higher damage choice. And it can light up dark places.

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Posted by: Rottaran Owain.6789

Rottaran Owain.6789

Cripple doesn’t help all that much for survivability when half the capture points are the size of a phonebooth.

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Posted by: bluesnacks.2301

bluesnacks.2301

I prefer warhorn in wvw for the swiftness. It has nothing to with the fact that I pretend to be a Lord of Gondor in real life everytime I blow into it.

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Posted by: Mentikora.8259

Mentikora.8259

Axe (primary offhand) + warhorn (for self&pet buff), because use BM build in PvE)

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Posted by: Iridiana.9078

Iridiana.9078

Warhorn! I’m swiftness-buff-addicted while running through Orr and other maps. I like torch too for my condition build…
I played with dagger only to unlock its skills… now it’s two months it’s sleeping in my inventory!

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Posted by: Ninjah.6298

Ninjah.6298

Torch. Bonfire > All

Good in noob PvP because they don’t expect it.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

Torch. Bonfire > All.

^ this

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Posted by: Glektor.2934

Glektor.2934

I’m torn between torch and dagger for offhands(although I seem to use warhorn alot just for swiftness, even though I hate it).
I really like the burning and fire aoe from torch, but I think overall I like the dagger better for the extra evade + snare-bleed.

I wish they would synergize sword/dagger to where they didn’t both use poison though. Maybe make the dagger stab do bleed instead of poison, and turn the dagger throw into a “flaming dagger” or something. Throwing daggers-on-fire would be pretty fun.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

If you run sword, torch is viable only because of the fire field to leap threw.
Otherwise it is just subpar to dagger in pretty much every way.

Torch. Bonfire > All

Good in noob PvP because they don’t expect it.

Oh noes a static 4~ft fire aoe..
Seriously though, if the radius wasn’t so laughably small it would be a good skill… but it isn’t…

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Posted by: Rottaran Owain.6789

Rottaran Owain.6789

Bonfire’s AoE doubles in size with offhand training.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

Bonfire’s AoE doubles in size with offhand training.

O.o
That’s interesting.
It would have been lovely if the tooltip actually said that.

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Posted by: Ninjah.6298

Ninjah.6298

It’s great in PvE where mobs dumbly stand in it and can be useful against others in PvP if combined with the root.

It’s also a very quick way out of you being rooted.

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Posted by: Orion Templar.4589

Orion Templar.4589

My favorites sets are Axe/Warhorn and Sword/Torch. I usually start with Axe/Warhorn and some ranged traps. Then swap to Sword/Torch to cleanup. I usually burn them with one of the Torch skills not long after flame trap is done, so the mob is on fire constantly. Traits I like include Offhand Training and Trapper’s Expertise.

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Posted by: DaisyRogers.6837

DaisyRogers.6837

torch has always been a fun one for me no matter what class. There is nothing better then setting an NPC or player on fire and listening to their characters scream in horror.
Is a must IMO if you want to run a condition build.

that said, my other ranger who is a BM uses horn when its not busy flailing away with its GS.

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Posted by: Shamrocky.5036

Shamrocky.5036

Warhorn all the way. Swiftness is great for movement and Fury is the best boon in the game.

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Posted by: swilkers.5938

swilkers.5938

ANET should just let Rangers use their fists. It would do the same amount of damage.

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