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Posted by: Dago.8729

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jcbroe.4329:

Impressions:

Mechanic:
I am aware that this is a beta, but is the mechanic even finished and will it be ready for launch by October 23rd? The cast times on the pet mechanic are much too long to justify some (most) of the skill effects. Also, the pathing and general responsiveness is horrendous. The mechanic seems almost like starter area (in the base game) was tacked on to a class at the last second and then changed to an ally at the very last second.
Hopefully though, because this was just a beta, either this is just a temporary mechanic, or there will be a ton of changes and iterations to the AI and skill responsiveness and effects of the mechanic.

Traits:
Quite a few of these traits are served the injustice of being tied to these unfinished feeling utilities (more on that later). Additionally, certain traits, like giving a random chance to destroy projectiles to sword or making axe’s chill AoE, are incredibly basic, beta level traits that need some serious up-tuning in order to ever justify their slots. Also, there seems to be a whole ton of damage modifiers missing, especially when compared to every other class, and the class itself doesn’t exactly stack boons on itself or anything either. That is definitely something that needs to be looked at before the live version of the game.

Utilities:
So, there are Survival utilities, Signets, maybe a spirit or two for exclusively PvE, and then just garbage utilities, pure garbage. Traps will never make ranger compete against something like engineer who just facerolls out the same sort of conditions at a higher rate and intensity than ranger can ever hope to, and Dhuumfire Reaper is a nightmare of a condition spec, along with mesmer and really anything else with heavy condition oriented combat. Spirits are immobile and for some reason have active PBAoE effects which makes them terrible by design, and the passives aren’t worth the slot the skills take up. Shouts…. Just wow.
Good thing all of these utilities are still in beta, because ANet, you definitely need this time to make these utilities worthwhile.

Weapons:

  • Longbow – Good weapon, ANet, you managed to get one right for this BWE. Don’t change a thing.
  • Greatsword – The autoattack chain is awful, but the rest of the weapon kit is pretty decent, although hilt bash only reaches about 200 of the 300 range it lists. Fix this bug before Druid goes live.
  • Axe – What is this weapon trying to be? It has range but can’t do anything at range, it has no conditions on autoattack even though the damage of this weapon is clearly favoring conditions, and the secondary effect on the axe is only as reliable as the mechanic, so aka, not reliable.
  • Sword – This is a great weapon, outside of the ridiculous autoattack chain animation binding you. Does this weapon even need this sort of treatment? It makes it very clunky and hard to use, even after you get used to it, because you have to use it either situationally or all in.
  • Shortbow – Horrible weapon. Outside of the autoattack and 5, the rest of the skills are boring, don’t really work well or add much to the ability of the weapon to do anything (shortbow 4 and the bleeds are so weak, this is just a beta issue right?). Good thing this is still beta, because this weapon needs a total overhaul.
  • Torch – another thing done right. Don’t touch this weapon.
  • Dagger – the third thing done right so far. Leave it as is.
  • Warhorn – Warhorn 5 skill is strong, though its effects don’t justify its cooldown. Warhorn 4 is extremely subpar. Single target, long-ish cooldown, poor damage, no additional effects. Since this is beta, the numbers or something on this skill is getting tweaked right? It could at least be AoE (like mad king rune effect 6) and dodgeable to compensate (delayed animation to where the birds meet, dodging the first hit negates the whole attack).
  • Offhand Axe – Axe 4 is perfectly fine, although it bugs out on terrain WAY too often, halving its potential or worse, since the pull effect is usually the part that fails on the second half of the skill. Axe 5 is one of the longest channels if not the longest channel in the game, and is plagued by rooting you during the whole cast, dealing lackluster damage, and only being functional as a reflect, which compared to all of the commonly used reflect skills, make it a poor choice to ever even activate since you root yourself and lose the ability to do any other action during that time period.

Overall, my beta impressions of the Druid were not pleasant (sorry that I keep using Ranger and Druid interchangeably). Everything was clunky and seemed fairly duct taped together, especially the mechanic, without any sort of design goal or effort to make the skills functional and effective.

Hopefully, these things improve for Druid by the next BWE or by expansion, because they are otherwise pretty awful and should never make it to a live game in their current condition.

(edited by Dago.8729)

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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This isn’t facebook, you can’t just steal something and then wait for your teenage friends to love you for being so clever.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

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If it helps devs to notice our absolutely horrible state in terms of being subpar and clunky – I’m all up for having as much threads about the same stuff over again.
Be it stolen or original.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

This isn’t facebook, you can’t just steal something and then wait for your teenage friends to love you for being so clever.

Hahaha!

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Posted by: Dago.8729

Dago.8729

If it helps devs to notice our absolutely horrible state in terms of being subpar and clunky – I’m all up for having as much threads about the same stuff over again.
Be it stolen or original.

Thanks. That is my purpose.

This isn’t facebook, you can’t just steal something and then wait for your teenage friends to love you for being so clever.

Funny spamming reply!!! I have spoken with jcbroe.4329 before this post.

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Probably better off dropping the thread in HoT forum in that case…

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Posted by: Zatoichi.1049

Zatoichi.1049

you should give original poster credit OP

Side note, I cant believe the original post got locked, what a joke.

Anet: Learn to laugh at yourself, itll make people like you more

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Posted by: Nieguen.6235

Nieguen.6235

I feel you bro.

/an engineer buddy

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Posted by: Sonickeyblade.8415

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I feel you bro.

/an engineer buddy

My favorite professions are Ranger and Engineer.

“I’m pretty much *ed aren’t I?"

“Right in the Down Under.”

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Posted by: Mcrocha.3891

Mcrocha.3891

Gj jcbroe, enjoyed reading.

Local Charr Ruins Everything

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

When you cut off a head, two more grow back!

They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: islarose.7356

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This isn’t facebook, you can’t just steal something and then wait for your teenage friends to love you for being so clever.

If the OP is afraid of a ban, and the original thread was locked, and someone felt the need to have it here – because it’s a good post – then this isn’t an appeal for approval, it’s because it’s relevant and needs to be seen.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

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Okay folks, get your tin-foil hats out. This thread was probably not closed yet, because there are Anet devs sitting in an office somewhere reading this.

*awkward silence

Soo… uhm… I think the poision applications of Ranger are pretty lackluster at the moment. I…. uhm…. I think every poision application should receive +1 stack.

*clears throat

What.. uhm.. what do you guys think? Huh?

*slow wink

Khert Devileyes – Ranger / Mano Negra – Thief / Nagymbear – Warrior /
Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: DoogySnowStalker.2069

DoogySnowStalker.2069

Wait… wasn’t this post deleted?

Is a Warrior just a pet without a Ranger?

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

Wait… wasn’t this post deleted?

Sssssshhhhhhh…..

Khert Devileyes – Ranger / Mano Negra – Thief / Nagymbear – Warrior /
Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: HotHit.6783

HotHit.6783

I feel you bro.

/an engineer buddy

My favorite professions are Ranger and Engineer.

“I’m pretty much *ed aren’t I?"

“Right in the Down Under.”

Not just you buddy. Well… Engineer would be my second favourite if my engineer wasn’t a charr and I wasn’t forced to equip a firearm. Tempest hasn’t exactly boosted the bar for the Forge any either.

Never Fight Alone” – Sunspear Creed
There, it’s dead and it’s never coming back!” – Famous last words

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Posted by: Volph.2043

Volph.2043

My hope is that ArenaNet has offered mostly silence so far on the Druid elite specialization due to a rework of the entire Ranger class.

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Posted by: Ronorra.1530

Ronorra.1530

Well my hope for a functional Ranger class is disappearing in an alarming fast rate now. Maybe it is time for a break.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Well my hope for a functional Ranger class is disappearing in an alarming fast rate now. Maybe it is time for a break.

Just wait a tiny bit longer, the expansion releases on October 23rd. They should have Ranger not only revealed but be part of a BWE by then.

And at this point I can’t even be sure of that.