Guild Wars 2

After the recent " Bug Fixes " and the Unintended Short Bow Nerf, Rangers NEED some love. Rangers should have multiple Viable Longbow AND Shortbow builds over an Axe. This problem needs to be addressed for many Rangers are stopping play all together because of this.

The point of this thread is to ask ANet to take another peak at the Ranger, Maybe even overhaul it and give us a viable class, and to provide suggestions of what we feel is taking away from our playing experience.

What I would like to see.
-More viable builds for BOWS ( we are rangers this should be our primary weapon regardless ) and we should excel at Longbow and Shortbow ABOVE any other class.

-Pet Changes. I have seen many complaints about the current pet system and this this needs some looking into. I would also like to see some options to help out trappers. I suggest a “Flag” system like GW1 where I can plant my pet on a flag, lay my traps .. Pull.. and then watch the magic happen.

Any other SUGGESTIONS are welcome, Please do not flame this thread or take it off topic. Our 40ms Sb nerf thread already got shut down for being taken off topic. Again PLEASE KEEP THIS ON TOPIC OF SUGGESTIONS.

There is already a petition thread its at 16 pages right now.

Please link. If it’s the other thread it got closed this morning because it was off topic.

Speno.1874:

There is already a petition thread its at 16 pages right now.

Which was locked due to being too vocal and drawing too much attention.

Missed the off topic my apologies, shoudln’t be surprised but something has to happen. This thread will just get up to 16+ pages anyways. That is not counting the posts that got deleted.

I agree. Right now my 80 Ranger is on the back burner right now. I’m really kitten off I put it in full exotic gear. It was my second character and I intended it to be pure PVE DPS (my first 80 was a Support Ele). Unfortunately though, it’s done nothing but kitten me off.

- My Rapid Fire’s hit for “Obstructed” 90% of the time.
- My pet is kitten and is dead 95% of the time in Dungeons, even when I manage/swap them on a regular basis. Most of the time I don’t send them in because it’s too dangerous and they’ll just die.
- Spirits are garbage.
- Greatsword damage doesn’t justify being in Melee range.
- 1h Sword locks me in place with it’s auto attack, making it difficult to dodge/stop.
- Longbow’s damage doesn’t justify it’s 1000+ placement requirement. It hits for ‘Obstructed’ regardless and is out DPS’d by the Shortbow with no min/max range requirement.
- My damage is split with my pet, whom is dead. A lot. The only place where my pet is useful is while leveling, otherwise it’s only a nuisance. I don’t feel “as one” with it, I just want it to go the kitten away. Worst part? I can’t even stow it.

Viable pets, AI : pets that hits the opponent, respond when u need them, move clever at the field, dont die so easy.
Viable weapons: weapons that does equal dps (or support or control) compared to the other proffesions and compared to each other (depending on the traits and if you decide to play dps traits).
Hard CC : How do get rid other professions from your capture point ? Atm you dont.
Conditions removal.
Fun abilities: utilities or weapon skills that are not bugged and challenge u to use them.

+1, something must be done before we all quit.

Btw petitions are against their code of conduct so most likely will be closed just an fyi.

Actually, from what I’ve noticed petitions aren’t allowed on these forums.

What are you talking about? ANET keeps fixing four things at a time from the list of 50 bugs and issues. In 9 months it will be taken care of. LOL.

BioHazard.2147:

… I suggest a “Flag” system like GW1 where I can plant my pet on a flag, lay my traps .. Pull.. and then watch the magic happen….

I am sympathetic towards the ranger profession, but, if you’ve played a ranger in GW1 you could have seen in advance that it wouldn’t be any more viable in GW2.

But the way, you couldn’t plant your pet anywhere in GW1, at least not before the release of GW2, and I don’t think they changed that recently

I just got my ranger to lvl 80 and it is my only lvl 80, so I don’t have much I can compare it against. My main question is, why are we expected to use axes? That’s the only real way I can DPS a group down. I am a ranger and chose this class to use a bow as my primary method of damage, not an axe.

My next question is, why do pets suck? As others have mentioned pets die ASAP, or so it seems. They can be useful in sPvP/tPvP but WvW they are pretty pointless and dungeons. Spiders are alright, I suppose, because they stay ranged. Anyways the pet system has sucked since day one IMO, why can’t we choose to run w/o a pet? Maybe give us a “Lone Wolf” buff that ups our damage to compensates for the lack of a pet? A flagging system, like with heroes in GW1, would be really nice as well.

One last thing. Make our pet names stick to our pets. I know it’s not that important but god is it annoying. My marsh drake is Jack. Let me be Jack forever.

Posting before thread is locked! Please, please, please, please, please fix hunters, ArenaNet!!!

+1 /signed, yes, <bubble filled in>… etc

whatever we need to do to make our class work again, I am for.

BioHazard.2147:

What I would like to see.
-More viable builds for BOWS ( we are rangers this should be our primary weapon regardless ) and we should excel at Longbow and Shortbow ABOVE any other class.

How amusing, another person that doesn’t understand the meaning of ranger. I’ll be kind and inform you, the name ranger doesn’t have anything to do with ranged attacks or weapons although this is a common misconception but it’s still wrong, it instead refers to someone who “ranges” aka travels far and wide (usually in wilderness) a classic example of a ranger is Aragorn from The Lord of the Rings. So now you know assuming you read this, but I doubt you will read it or take it into consideration.

Pets MUST be able to attack and move at the same time. Even if the F2 still has the horrible cast-time. I understand the F2 cast-time to a degree and it’s much better from early beta, but the attacking while moving is something that should be fixed before anything else.

/sign this petition

I noticed the bow skills being kind of crappy right from the start, I never use the bow anymore, because the axe / horn or torch seems to be my best choice.
I agree, bows / bow skills should be tweaked.
Also, the F2 cast time is crazy. I have to hit it multiple times before it works.

I think the notion that we must be better than every other class at range just beacuse we’re rangers is frickin dumb, making our swords usless, and don’t say defensive weapons, you know what’s safer and more defensive than beeing in melee?
Not beeing in melee.

Shoud we have a good ranged builds that let you go nuts with your longbow?
Hell yes and they need some tweaks, but don’t leave the melee ranger in the dust, rangers should be about pets ,their evasive jack-of-all trades playstyle and nature theme if you ask me, rather than the same kittenized ranger that they stick in every other MMO (what’s up with that anyway?).

agreed and signed, would like to see a fix

Coffeebot, this is the definition of Ranger, as it relates to a class of player in a video game, as seen on the GW2 Professions page:

Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.

It says nothing about travelling far, being in a special branch of the military or patrolling national parks. So, Rangers should be THE bad kittens with the bow – we are not.

Agreed and sign ! Fix ranger !

@Coffeebot, not to be rude but pls stay on topic..

I think post like this are pointless…I played a ranger since beta, and I always loved it on other mmo too. The gw2’ s ranger is one of the best ever imo. Surely there are annoing bugs that must be fixed, and some skill on bows that can be a lil’ improved, but i’m sure that Anet will fix it asap.
There is one thing that i want to clarify about pets. There is a knowing bug that doesn’t apply the right statistics on them, but if u make the build with brain and u learn how to control/manage your pet, it won’t die so easilly.
Ranger is not only a glass cannon as almost people play it, mainly in dungeon u need a build that can also survive other than deal big damage to foes.
And last but not least… Coffeebot has a point, that is the right definition of the classic Ranger, he mentionated aragorn from lotr, but i suggest u to take a look to drizzt do urden too from forgottem realms becouse he is THE ranger, not the one u have learn to play in WoW, and i’ve played it too for long time so i know what i’m talking about.

agreed and signed, I definitely leaves GW2 if ANET want not buff ranger

Signed from me to.

+1.

But really everyone, I suggest we all chill out… I’m sure ANet is well aware of the issues people have with the Ranger. But buffing it isn’t something simple. Balance in a game is very delicate and it has to be tested through and through before any significant changes can be made.

There are many facets to this game so it cant be simple to buff something and keep it balanced across ALL game types.

Instead of threatening to quit the game, just try to show them some support guys. GW2 is a great game, which is why we all care so much.

My contribution I’ve been playing around with, posting it more since there seems to be more actual “LF Ideas” threads.

This was posted in the Suggestion forum but I figured I’d re-post a link here just cuz.

GW2 Ranger Suggestions

Add me to the list , our damage is sooooo bad compared to other classes , and we only have SB. It is sad in PVE , and WvW , that a warrior out DPS a ranger at range !!! because our pets are dead , or cant hit a target moving.

This will be locked or removed. Petitions are against the code of conduct here.
“Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.”

But I agree—Ranger needs to be looked at.

I will be changing the original message to remove the petition but I am unable to do it from my phone. I will also be adding your guys suggestions into the original message.

What this thread needs now is a meme – so I made one:

Keep Calm and Buff Rangers

Please Keep on Topic @Deepwinter,

It is on topic; how is that off topic?

The Problem: Rangers are broken.
The Solution: Buff Rangers.

Our damage is subpar. Buff it.
Our pets are broken. Fix them (then buff them).
Our weapons are lackluster. Buff them and fix them (I’m looking at you, Sword).

What more can be said that hasn’t been said over a million times on these forums? Rangers are pleading for help and dev support but we’re not getting any. The most we get out of threads like these are locked and deleted posts.

I don’t know why they haven’t responded to us. I don’t know when they’ll respond to us. I do know that the moderators are watching these threads and, hopefully, forwarded them to the devs. I also know that the only way to fix this is to…

…buff Rangers.