Guild Wars 2

Greetings, community.

I believe we all (or at least the better part) suffer from the hotfix that was actually more of a straight nerf all across the board.

From the calculations that could be done, I’ve come to conclude, that from a rough 7% damage increase, this Frost Spirit Dropped the damage output to mere 0,4% – 1,2% damage increase.

As it is now – the spirit is useless for anything but his active (that can be replaced with Frost Trap for even bonus Frost Field).

I’d like to suggest and Propose a new tweak for this Ability, that could make it just like A-net wanted the spirits (on-hit passives), but still be viable.
The suggestion is:
30% (70% Traited) chance on hit to activate
“Attack of Opportunity (10s): +150% damage on next attack”

It would practically be the same mechanic, with better results (could bring the damage increase from 1% to 3% roughly) that could be “misused” in form of mastering the trait. Since the Recharge and duration of the buff are the same. You could practically charge it and blow 2 AoO one after another, maximizing the burst effect which can be helpful to dungeon runs. It wouldn’t practically boost the group, but will make the group feel like the Ranger is useful (if they see a big number splash only thanks to Rangers and no one else. People don’t care about statistics). It could bring the Ranger hate down a little.

I did my best to come up with an idea to make Rangers in a brighter spot, without making them too good, since they actually have a viable Zerk Build with lots of Self-oriented DPS burst post patch.

Ideas, criticism and feedback is very welcome.

I don’t know, the old frost spirit somehow doesn’t feel all that overpowered when you compare it to Banner of disciple.

That said, even 3% would be much better than nothing.

The thing is: We already bring Perma AoE Fury, 5 AoE might and +7% crit for the group.

You can’t buff the support offensive power in rangers THAT much.

Tragic Positive.9356:

The thing is: We already bring Perma AoE Fury, 5 AoE might and +7% crit for the group.

You can’t buff the support offensive power in rangers THAT much.

Compare to warrior that can give your party near permanent 25 might, permanent fury, indestructible dmg bonus banners that are roughly 8% dps increase for strength banner and well over 10% for discipline banner.

Yea frosty totally needed the nerf since it was obviously too strong as a 7% dmg bonus that has worse uptime than banners, dies whenever a boss farts at its general direction, has a useless utility skill that takes ages to cast, doesn’t have any party utility like banner swiftness and fury buffs that can be used by all party members.

But I’m glad they buffed engis for PvE and now that fgs is gone they are actually useful for every instanced content.

Misread this as “Frost Spirit twerk” and was pretty disappointed.

Taku.6352:

Tragic Positive.9356:

The thing is: We already bring Perma AoE Fury, 5 AoE might and +7% crit for the group.

You can’t buff the support offensive power in rangers THAT much.

Compare to warrior that can give your party near permanent 25 might, permanent fury, indestructible dmg bonus banners that are roughly 8% dps increase for strength banner and well over 10% for discipline banner.

…

I might be wrong about this one… But being able to do that… Don’t they sacrifice almost all their damage? Isn’t might stacking through the Sword, which is condi based?
(I haven’t played much of a Warrior myself, but my friend have and he used to tell me about the builds)

Tragic Positive.9356:

Taku.6352:

Tragic Positive.9356:

The thing is: We already bring Perma AoE Fury, 5 AoE might and +7% crit for the group.

You can’t buff the support offensive power in rangers THAT much.

Compare to warrior that can give your party near permanent 25 might, permanent fury, indestructible dmg bonus banners that are roughly 8% dps increase for strength banner and well over 10% for discipline banner.

…

I might be wrong about this one… But being able to do that… Don’t they sacrifice almost all their damage? Isn’t might stacking through the Sword, which is condi based?
(I haven’t played much of a Warrior myself, but my friend have and he used to tell me about the builds)

Not really, its still power based and going for Phalanx Strength.

I saw a 8.6k bite from Jaguar in CoE though, kinda funny how your pet can hit alot harder than your ranger autos now lol.

I guess I’m missing it cuz I don’t see a Frost Spirit change in the patch notes. What happened exactly?

Seras.5702:

I guess I’m missing it cuz I don’t see a Frost Spirit change in the patch notes. What happened exactly?

They brutally, savagely murdered it. It is a less than 1% damage buff now because it behaves like the description with a 10 second cooldown.

Fluffball.8307:

Seras.5702:

I guess I’m missing it cuz I don’t see a Frost Spirit change in the patch notes. What happened exactly?

They brutally, savagely murdered it. It is a less than 1% damage buff now because it behaves like the description with a 10 second cooldown.

So this is a case where a tooltip fix woulda been better. Well, that’s 1 utility and 1 trait I can repurpose.

Seras.5702:

Fluffball.8307:

Seras.5702:

I guess I’m missing it cuz I don’t see a Frost Spirit change in the patch notes. What happened exactly?

They brutally, savagely murdered it. It is a less than 1% damage buff now because it behaves like the description with a 10 second cooldown.

So this is a case where a tooltip fix woulda been better. Well, that’s 1 utility and 1 trait I can repurpose.

Tooltip fix would have been nice indeed.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Taku.6352:

Tragic Positive.9356:

The thing is: We already bring Perma AoE Fury, 5 AoE might and +7% crit for the group.

You can’t buff the support offensive power in rangers THAT much.

Compare to warrior that can give your party near permanent 25 might, permanent fury, indestructible dmg bonus banners that are roughly 8% dps increase for strength banner and well over 10% for discipline banner.

…

I might be wrong about this one… But being able to do that… Don’t they sacrifice almost all their damage? Isn’t might stacking through the Sword, which is condi based?
(I haven’t played much of a Warrior myself, but my friend have and he used to tell me about the builds)

Phalanx warrior still does reasonable DPS while buffing the whole party immensely.

05063 build with axe/mace & GS with strength and battle sigil will keep you at or very close to 25 might during the fights. Even just banners alone give more party dps boost than ranger ever could not counting that summoning the banner is a blast finisher and skill 5 on banner is also a blast making stacking might easy compared to rangers.

Well, Rangers are now kinda viable on their own in Dungeons, with the right build.
… I suppose the Frost Spirit Nerf won’t hurt us that much anymore.

By the way, for all those who don’t know about the changed stuff:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2fyi34/feature_patch_2_undocumented_changes/