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Posted by: Chopps.5047

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Three rangers with traited frost spirit is essentially a 21% boost to damage, right? Please, someone test this thank you in advance.

Also, if you’re not taking fortifying bond in dungeons, you aren’t doing it right. :p

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

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I dont think they stack like that. I believe the spirit applies the buff only once to allies. You can test it in the mists though, but I wouldn’t be too optimistic.

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Ya we need a test. I would if I wasn’t afk…

The reason I ask is a bunch of rangers and a mesmer could potentially melt lupicus faster than 41s if the froat spirits stack. That’s because it would proc the reflected projectiles at higher than mesmer’s own stats. It could be disgustingly sick.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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All spirits stack, however i’m not sure if their ICDs stack, IE is the ICD per player/effect? Or is it per spirit per player/effect?

Since the frost spirit has NO ICD, they should stack with no issue.

EDIT: Just to clarify i’ve done a rough test on this, and 2 stone spirits will give their “Stone Spirit” buff twice on a target, however if you’re in a large group of players they’ll try to put it on multiple people and avoid stacking it so idk if the effects actually can trigger multiple times or not, but in a group of 5, they should be forced into doubling up.

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Ya we need a test. I would if I wasn’t afk…

The reason I ask is a bunch of rangers and a mesmer could potentially melt lupicus faster than 41s if the froat spirits stack. That’s because it would proc the reflected projectiles at higher than mesmer’s own stats. It could be disgustingly sick.

intresting idea…. lupicus is Cof P1 boss ya?

im running with spirits atm, so anyone interesting in testing can hook me up ingame.

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Lupicus is the common boss in arah. It does a massive barrage in phase 2 that properly feedback’d will take down 25%+ health and is a big reason people can get it done in less than a minute. Of course, warrior buffs/dps help a lot

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The effects of spirits do not stack with eachother, regardless of how many spirits are in the area, the effect the spirit applies to your character does not stack (in this case, the chance to trigger a 10% damage boost.) What I cannot say for certain is how the ICD that affects the other three non-elite spirits has if multiple ones are used.

For example, if there are two Sun Spirits, after Spirit A’s effect has triggered and you are on cooldown with Spirit A, can Spirit B apply its effect to your character and have it proc?

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Other cool thing about spirits: storm spirit can proc sun spirit! I wish I could test the frost spirt thing…no ICD…hmmm

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If you want to test it, I’m in game at the moment.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Other cool thing about spirits: storm spirit can proc sun spirit! I wish I could test the frost spirt thing…no ICD…hmmm

All the spirits can proc all the other spirits because all their actives do damage even if the floaters say otherwise. Only way I found out about this was my sun spirit used his active and gained prot and swiftness and burned the enemy xD.

That and while PvPing I died to a spirit ranger (on my ele) and it said I took ~3k from Solar Flare.

I’ve also hit people with burning from sun spirit on all the other spirit actives, which is making spirits look a lot stronger to me.

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Other cool thing about spirits: storm spirit can proc sun spirit! I wish I could test the frost spirt thing…no ICD…hmmm

All the spirits can proc all the other spirits because all their actives do damage even if the floaters say otherwise. Only way I found out about this was my sun spirit used his active and gained prot and swiftness and burned the enemy xD.

That and while PvPing I died to a spirit ranger (on my ele) and it said I took ~3k from Solar Flare.

I’ve also hit people with burning from sun spirit on all the other spirit actives, which is making spirits look a lot stronger to me.

Solar flare inflicts blindness only, no damage. The only spirit that has an active damage skill is the storm spirit, which is around 3k. Unfortunately, the passive for this spirit is also the most useless one :/

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Other cool thing about spirits: storm spirit can proc sun spirit! I wish I could test the frost spirt thing…no ICD…hmmm

All the spirits can proc all the other spirits because all their actives do damage even if the floaters say otherwise. Only way I found out about this was my sun spirit used his active and gained prot and swiftness and burned the enemy xD.

That and while PvPing I died to a spirit ranger (on my ele) and it said I took ~3k from Solar Flare.

I’ve also hit people with burning from sun spirit on all the other spirit actives, which is making spirits look a lot stronger to me.

Solar flare inflicts blindness only, no damage. The only spirit that has an active damage skill is the storm spirit, which is around 3k. Unfortunately, the passive for this spirit is also the most useless one :/

Uh, tell that to the death recap screen, just because the tooltip and damage floaters say nothing doesn’t mean it’s not there, a prime example of this is iZerker.

Not to mention you need damage to proc the effects, which I’ve seen all my spirits do time and time again.

PS: my storm spirit hits ~5k on a regular basis

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Storm spirit can probably crit for upwards of 8 to 10k with 25 stack might and fury, although I haven’t tested it. Also, does precise strike work with storm spirit? Might be a good way to gaurantee that crit.

@durz I believe you about the death recap screen but in my testing I was never able to recreate damage from solar flare. If there’s a good way to do this I’d like to know. Also ty for letting me know they stack!

@everyone else
Does anyone know if 3 frost spirits would be a 21% dps increase? I’m guessing no, that, instead, more spirits means the dps increase appoaches a total of 10% since they’ll just be activated more often? I guess the real question is, can two frost spirits both trigger on the same target on the same hit?

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Upon testing if you have 5 rangers using 5 sun spirits and “forcing” the stack, you can not trigger the effect from multiple sun spirits, so spirit rangers, much like banner warriors, don’t play nicely with each other, however I didn’t do any testing with frost spirit because that’s not a very easy spirit to track whether or not it proced….

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Posted by: Lunchbox.9543

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For Frost Spirit use target dummies in LA with Main-hand Axe. All three bounces will have the same base damage for each shot, and each attack is calculated separately for frost spirit allowing you to see if one (or more) stacks affect it.

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

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Other cool thing about spirits: storm spirit can proc sun spirit! I wish I could test the frost spirt thing…no ICD…hmmm

All the spirits can proc all the other spirits because all their actives do damage even if the floaters say otherwise. Only way I found out about this was my sun spirit used his active and gained prot and swiftness and burned the enemy xD.

That and while PvPing I died to a spirit ranger (on my ele) and it said I took ~3k from Solar Flare.

I’ve also hit people with burning from sun spirit on all the other spirit actives, which is making spirits look a lot stronger to me.

Solar flare inflicts blindness only, no damage. The only spirit that has an active damage skill is the storm spirit, which is around 3k. Unfortunately, the passive for this spirit is also the most useless one :/

Uh, tell that to the death recap screen, just because the tooltip and damage floaters say nothing doesn’t mean it’s not there, a prime example of this is iZerker.

Not to mention you need damage to proc the effects, which I’ve seen all my spirits do time and time again.

PS: my storm spirit hits ~5k on a regular basis

I tested the sun spirit just to be sure. Solar flare does 0 damage. but you may get some burn from procing itself.

hmmm its interesting coz my storm spirit never crit before the patch. Now its criting sometimes.

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