Guild Wars 2

Why is it the Ranger has been so down graded that it is nearly impossible to take a person down in WvW and PVP yet so many other classes have been beefed up? The Druid skills have nothing to do with helping one’s own Ranger. Yes it does help a little but we have no alternative skills to be fighters to defend ourselves. What few skills we have to choose from such as the “Spirit” skills" give us a 75% chance to apply burning or protection, etc. Why wouldn’t we be given skills that will give us 100% chance to apply burning? Our options are lame considering what other character options are. We can be running in WvW and get hit and taken down so quickly anymore not many want to play their favorite character, the Ranger. We are pretty much MADE to be healers or just hope for the best. Some of us, most of us, want an alternative way to be fighters. I don’t want to be a healer. I want to be able to defend myself and my fellow players by taking down our enemy. Getting my butt kicked so easily is taking all the fun out of the game. Find a good build, they change us. It’s expensive to try to find and fix our classes then have to turn around and try to figure out another fix a few months later. Anet needs to do for Rangers what its been doing for the other classes, make it fair and stop changing, “fixing” what wasn’t broken.

I’m having a good ole time running base ranger, I only take druid if I’m finding too many Condi mesmers about.

What’s your build maybe we can work on it. There’s deff plenty viable builds for power based druid/ranger atm. I will say Condi druid is the weakest when it comes to wvw and PvP.

Don’t get me wrong quite a few of stuff needs to be worked on but I think wonderwall really laid it out the best with his QOL lists.

Like said what are you running maybe I can give you a hand. I think I’m a decent ranger and I’m actually having a lot of fun lately especially with this last balance patch

I’m not a HUGE WvW player so I may be a tad misinformed, but when I was in WvW a week ago I ran base ranger (so not Druid) zerker LB build and was doing fine with picking people off.

Druid also does well if you want to be a beacon of life in the Zerg, but that’s not something most people like.

TLDR: Druid is a damage nerf, don’t take it if your goal is murder

The Ranger is screwed for Melee. Sword basically involves throwing yourself all over the place, making it worthless in PVP where you need to stay in the cap zones, and Greatsword is too slow and telegraphed, making it too easy to dodge (and if you miss with the charge, you uncontrollably travel a large distance). And that’s it. There are no other melee options (offhand dagger doesn’t count; it’s only 1 skill). Your only choice is to run completely ranged and hope no one can completely negate ranged attacks… which of course a good number of classes can.

It is not that bad. Having both a ranged and a melee weapon set is usually the best, but even full melee is somewhat playable, at least in WvW. Full ranged is definitely not the only option.

yeah and that’s why every single druid (there are no rangers anymore) goes as bunker as they can.

Our DPS is really bad on mobile targets because of the lack of cleave and aoe and our pets can’t hit those targets reliably and they are melt under conditions or CC. And you have to go full glass (one trick pony) to do a normal dps.

however this sub forum is full of brilliant suggestions written by people with great ideas so i’d advise to anyone just to read around.

You don’t have to go full bunker nor full glass. Ranger/druid can hit moving targets just fine, same with bristeback and smokescale. Dmg is decent with the right builds. DPS is meaningless in PvP/WvW and if you talk about PvE, then condi ranger is pretty good dps wise.

Eh, Druid has to go full bunker to be useful. Full damage is far more risky, and mostly only good against teams that don’t know how to organize, as opposed to a valid competitive play style against semi organized teams (great for fun though). Kind of a one trick, catch-you-by-surprise-hope-you-don’t-adapt play style. The damage isn’t even that great.

There is a middleground between full bunker and full dmg right?

With perma prot, great mightstacking and high quickness uptime on top of other boons for both the ranger and the pets, NM druids can have both decent dmg and survivability. At least in WvW.

tbh it sounds like some of you guys don’t play Druid or Ranger very much.

Sword issues where fixed, it no longer makes you “hop around”

according to the latest dps rankings zerker druid is at or near 25k dps, condi druid is far higher at 35k dps and is The highest condi dps in game.

In PvP the mender’s build is still strong, as is marauder’s if you’re not going to rely on healing. You’re not really a bunker but no class is anymore now that the bunker amulets have been pulled out of pvp.

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tbh it sounds like some of you guys don’t play Druid or Ranger very much.

Sword issues where fixed, it no longer makes you “hop around”

according to the latest dps rankings zerker druid is at or near 25k dps, condi druid is far higher at 35k dps and is The highest condi dps in game.

In PvP the mender’s build is still strong, as is marauder’s if you’re not going to rely on healing. You’re not really a bunker but no class is anymore now that the bunker amulets have been pulled out of pvp.

Menders is strait bunker, unless you get seriously focused it’s hella easy to hold a point in a 2v1.
they should just pull all healing power out of PvP or just make it a minor with no defensive stats, but “that will nerf then only viable build on ranger” they will say but to that we have seeker, murader, diviner, and demolisher. Condi druid is far less weaker than power in a pvp scenario.

Also I feel like they’re probably referring to the other 2 skills on sword.

And I wouldn’t call the sword auto “fixed” as much just unlocked, as now ranger sword lacks a leap with sword, a smart player will cleanse immobile and strafe around.

kitten needs a gap closer to.

Since op hasn’t said anything else, must be a kitten post anyways.