Guild Wars 2

I just remembered in GW1 other than Spike teams or that barrage/pet setup for PvP/Pve Bows were kinda useless to rangers other than pulling or kindle dual shot at the very start, most of my time id be running sword, hammer even staffs, then Nightfall hit and it was spears, I came back and droped my bow for a BM/GS setup with sword and horn as 2nd set and flame/snakes/spring/rampage as skills and I’m enjoying it a lot more, oddly enough the bow skills of the thief and warrior would do nicely for the ranger skills if they ever fix the 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 issue of the short bow in PvE

haha, engis want the rifle skills of the warrior and rangers want the bow skills of the warrior. starting to see a pattern.

I just started a ranger, and I like the long bows skills, im only level 8 or so, so I have no idea how it will change as I level. I like how fast you can stack bleeds with shortbow 1, but absolutely hate the other 2-5 skills. and I love bounce attacks, so Ax1 is sweet, sadly ax2-3 are lame.
I too liked the sword skills, (tho would proffer skill 2 being inverted.) of the offhands I like the ax my self.
But like I said, i just started a ranger and hes uber low level.

Using the sword and GS makes it feel like im playing the White Lion class from warhammer online. Only my pet dies alot faster.

Axe 2 and 3 very useful when it start"Combo" with something.
Axe2 alway combo finish whatever they pass.
Axe3 combo with your pet.

Shotbow I only hate skill3 because it struck not jump backward sometime.(Not some but if u out of luck skill3 will doom your ranger to death!!)

I find the short bow to be one of the most complete weapons in the game, Spvp wise it gives me some versatility, condition damage and fast low damage that gives a nice ongoing dps with a certain degree of control. #3 gives additional evades even if it doesn’t put distance the chance of evading a powerful hit is enough for me.

Long bow is incredible in WvW and dungeons/fractals with my set up I get some nice ongoing damage with some quick burst while using pets that buff me to compensate for the damage lost by not using a pet.

Sword/horn or dagger is simply amazing hands down and complement the short bow perfectly.

I have yet to master the GS in spvp but the few rangers I seen using it showed me how great of a weapon it is.

Off hand axe is both fun and useful on it’s own ways, while I find the main hand axe to be sort of good and lame both at once just my two cents.

Also judging a class in it’s early levels is a huge mistake as you don’t have the full set of and advantages the class offer later on. Most likely your char is wearing combined stats suchs as berserker parts with rampagers parts and so on as even when crafting one’s own is easier to go this way.

I have thing about it also but i still like the shortbow utility, tho skills 2 to 5 dont do much damage. Axe is boring to use IMO and longbow well you know. I have wanted to go GS/sword-whatever but in wvw how am i going to fight in zergs, i doubt i will have enough survivavility (even with lot of toughness) to go crazy and enter the frontlines

Just giggling, because everyone else wants what the warriors have, but their forum is even more full of QQ than the rest of the professions. Highest base damage, highest base hp, ditto armour. Better ranged ability than the Ranger. Banners being immeasurably better than spirits, and warriors are convinced that they’ve been over nerfed into uselessness.

No constructive input, other than for the OP – trust me, you’ll drop the LB as soon as you try any wvwvw. If you can’t connect, your DPS is 0. (only way to hit with LB in wvwvw is the same as hitting with ele staff in wvwvw – you hope the opponent is AFK.)

Kinda funny, considering Warriors want the bow skills of a Ranger.

Kain Francois.4328:

Kinda funny, considering Warriors want the bow skills of a Ranger.

Just give me dual shot and arcing arrow and I would be happy.

Hilariously, the only attraction I have to the bows is for the skill that’s an homage to the only skill I would use with my bow in my A/R build (yay splintered weapon spam).

At least it was. More recently I’ve felt like experimenting with the longbow and being able to start a fight with 20 vulnerability stacks on my victim to follow up with a quick crippling barrage, swoop, hilt-bash and maul is pretty devastating, even without me building for burst damage. Hunter’s shot has made me feel much more useful when I’m in a group now.

HotHit.6783:

Hilariously, the only attraction I have to the bows is for the skill that’s an homage to the only skill I would use with my bow in my A/R build (yay splintered weapon spam).

At least it was. More recently I’ve felt like experimenting with the longbow and being able to start a fight with 20 vulnerability stacks on my victim to follow up with a quick crippling barrage, swoop, hilt-bash and maul is pretty devastating, even without me building for burst damage. Hunter’s shot has made me feel much more useful when I’m in a group now.

THIS.

Oberon Vex.1389:

HotHit.6783:

Hilariously, the only attraction I have to the bows is for the skill that’s an homage to the only skill I would use with my bow in my A/R build (yay splintered weapon spam).

At least it was. More recently I’ve felt like experimenting with the longbow and being able to start a fight with 20 vulnerability stacks on my victim to follow up with a quick crippling barrage, swoop, hilt-bash and maul is pretty devastating, even without me building for burst damage. Hunter’s shot has made me feel much more useful when I’m in a group now.

THIS.

That’s the way to use the LB. It’s so rad.

stale.9785:

No constructive input, other than for the OP – trust me, you’ll drop the LB as soon as you try any wvwvw. If you can’t connect, your DPS is 0. (only way to hit with LB in wvwvw is the same as hitting with ele staff in wvwvw – you hope the opponent is AFK.)

Wait, what? Cant connect with a longbow in WvW? You obviously aint used a longbow with a Ranger in WvW if you believe that. A Longbow is my Ranger’s primary weap in WvW and I do very well with it as do other Rangers I know who use them. So don’t tell outright lies on here because you make it look as if longbows consistently miss the target and they don’t.

Huck.1405:

stale.9785:

No constructive input, other than for the OP – trust me, you’ll drop the LB as soon as you try any wvwvw. If you can’t connect, your DPS is 0. (only way to hit with LB in wvwvw is the same as hitting with ele staff in wvwvw – you hope the opponent is AFK.)

Wait, what? Cant connect with a longbow in WvW? You obviously aint used a longbow with a Ranger in WvW if you believe that. A Longbow is my Ranger’s primary weap in WvW and I do very well with it as do other Rangers I know who use them. So don’t tell outright lies on here because you make it look as if longbows consistently miss the target and they don’t.

I hit with my LB a lot too. Exclusively when I’m in a zerg, at the back, shooting targets that don’t even know I exist. It’s kind of hard to miss them to be honest. I assume he’s talking about scenarios where you’re actually playing against someone else, and not just laying barrage and pot shots down on whatever draws your attention.

The Spiral King.2483:

Huck.1405:

stale.9785:

No constructive input, other than for the OP – trust me, you’ll drop the LB as soon as you try any wvwvw. If you can’t connect, your DPS is 0. (only way to hit with LB in wvwvw is the same as hitting with ele staff in wvwvw – you hope the opponent is AFK.)

Wait, what? Cant connect with a longbow in WvW? You obviously aint used a longbow with a Ranger in WvW if you believe that. A Longbow is my Ranger’s primary weap in WvW and I do very well with it as do other Rangers I know who use them. So don’t tell outright lies on here because you make it look as if longbows consistently miss the target and they don’t.

I hit with my LB a lot too. Exclusively when I’m in a zerg, at the back, shooting targets that don’t even know I exist. It’s kind of hard to miss them to be honest. I assume he’s talking about scenarios where you’re actually playing against someone else, and not just laying barrage and pot shots down on whatever draws your attention.

That is what i’m talking about. If your opponent knows you’re there, sidestepping once – ONCE negates all the bow’s damage. Barrage is a single dodge roll to safety, and arrow flight from the longbow makes it unreliable.

There’s a reason that WvW rangers pretty much universally rock the SB/GS combo.

LB desperately needs attention – long range shot should be static damage across it’s range

The channelled skills (rapid fire and barrage) need their channel time reduced.

Arrow flight time needs to be faster – about twice what it is now.

As things stand, I can close on a longbow ranger, and not get tagged once, simply by zig-zagging in. We’re not talking huge zags either – just tapping A,D,A,D while you close will do it.

Huck: my ranger is the only char I regularly take into WvW. He’s kitten I accept that. I don’t want to play bunker, so I try to skirmish. (If I wanted to bunker, I wouldn’t have shelved my ele when I figured out that staff got killed after beta.) If you’re hitting with LB in wvwvw, you’re firing into a zerg, or the opponent is ignoring you and taking out someone who’s posing a danger.

Would be fun if the long shot remained as is except for the range… Buff it to 1500 un-traited and 1800 traited… Now we’re talking long shot! Make the projectile go just a little faster, very little. Make the projectile TOTALLY unable to home and buff it’s damage a little bit. Let the ranger have some range.

solrik.6028:

Would be fun if the long shot remained as is except for the range… Buff it to 1500 un-traited and 1800 traited… Now we’re talking long shot! Make the projectile go just a little faster, very little. Make the projectile TOTALLY unable to home and buff it’s damage a little bit. Let the ranger have some range.

We have about as much chance of this as the Engi has of getting a non kitten mortar. Anet doesn’t want classes to be different and have interesting mechanics (getting rid of SW eles in WvW for example). The only interesting thing a class has left is the Mesmer’s portal.

I just wished my bows obeyed the law of gravity. That, and a removal of the 5 target cap on Barrage. Then I might actually play my Ranger again.

HotHit.6783:

Hilariously, the only attraction I have to the bows is for the skill that’s an homage to the only skill I would use with my bow in my A/R build (yay splintered weapon spam).

At least it was. More recently I’ve felt like experimenting with the longbow and being able to start a fight with 20 vulnerability stacks on my victim to follow up with a quick crippling barrage, swoop, hilt-bash and maul is pretty devastating, even without me building for burst damage. Hunter’s shot has made me feel much more useful when I’m in a group now.

i love doing that in wvw; the amount of heals my hilt bash has interrupted…