Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, I was thinking of reinstalling GW2 and potentially buying HoT if the ranger situation has improved any. I’ve noticed on metabattle that rangers are not in the Raid meta, and our only meta build is still the LB spotter, even with the introduction of Druids. I’m guessing druids have been a complete bust for us in terms of competitive gameplay. Is it worth it to come back if I main ranger?

Wait a bit longer. There will be a post, live stream, and other writings next week about future updates planned. The one bit you will want to wait and read about is for balancing. If you like what you see/hear, then by all means, come on back.

Also, Metabattle is behind on a few things, like the GW2 Wiki. If you’re curious about Druids in raids, browse a few topics in the Raid sub-forum. So far, people like having (at most) 1 on the team.

Druids are pretty common in raids. The only reason I can think of for why druid isn’t listed as a meta build is because people can’t decide which build is best.

bloodpyrope.8630:

Druids are pretty common in raids. The only reason I can think of for why druid isn’t listed as a meta build is because people can’t decide which build is best.

Or because you need a different build for every encounter.
… And every composition.
And every skill-level of your sqaud.

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

anduriell.6280:

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

I’ve also heard you preach this over and over here on the forums, lol

anduriell.6280:

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

No class is needed.
… VG has been killed in 5 people.

Your point?

Fixed? If you meant spade and neutered . . . yes.

Agent Mulder.4531:

Hey guys, I was thinking of reinstalling GW2 and potentially buying HoT if the ranger situation has improved any. I’ve noticed on metabattle that rangers are not in the Raid meta, and our only meta build is still the LB spotter, even with the introduction of Druids. I’m guessing druids have been a complete bust for us in terms of competitive gameplay. Is it worth it to come back if I main ranger?

rangers basically in the same positions it’s always been in. We have 1 build that is meta or almost meta for raids but a lot of people who don’t know better think rangers are useless. The raid build is a healing build so decide yourself if that’s how you want to play.

we also basically have 1 really strong build in pvp, decide for yourself if you want to play celestial bunker.

metabattle lists both of these builds, there’s a lot of alternatives to these and you can always make trait changes based on your playstyle.

Ranger is in a bad status. If you want to play a strong class in this game, play everything except ranger.
I didn ’ t buy Hot for this reason. And i’m going to unistall gw2 soon.

Regards

Agent Mulder.4531:

Hey guys, I was thinking of reinstalling GW2 and potentially buying HoT if the ranger situation has improved any. I’ve noticed on metabattle that rangers are not in the Raid meta, and our only meta build is still the LB spotter, even with the introduction of Druids. I’m guessing druids have been a complete bust for us in terms of competitive gameplay. Is it worth it to come back if I main ranger?

If Druid was as strong in WvW and PvP as they are in PvE there wouldn’t be much of an issue – but as it stands, we are dwarfed by those who have more damage, more stuns, more of just about everything than any Ranger or Druid can bring.

Even with 2700+ power and toughness and plenty of condi mitigation most Rangers and Druids are melting under pressure from very well and better built professions.

Druid is great if you are doing PvE – if you are doing a raid I can show you how to use a Druid properly – which is to stand in front of the darn thing when we are firing with a staff – healing – boons – instant-reviving – we can do quite a bit but not many are using Druids as the utilities and support they truly can be.

I agree, wait. So many have been disappointed when they realize their favorite character is ‘only’ good for fractals and pve.

WvW and PvP depend on others to be with us or we might as well not go out at all in most builds – Ranger and Druid.

anduriell.6280:

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

If a Druid is no longer necessary in a raid, then Anet has forsaken Druid and Ranger for good.

atheria.2837:

anduriell.6280:

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

If a Druid is no longer necessary in a raid, then Anet has forsaken Druid and Ranger for good.

There has been a lot of successful pulls without a Druid. And some without 5 people.
Necessity is redundant. Usefulness is what matters.
And being able to boost DPS of your group by 38,5% while keeping them alive is not a thing to be overlooked.

Even though it’s user-unfriendly and clunky as hell.

It’s like I’ve said in other threads – nearly every other class got a massive damage output boost and Rangers got DRUID. While we can say they gave us a plethora or healing ANeT didn’t do us any favors. Still doesn’t equal the DPS and overall boosts other classes were given. I had the feeling it would end up that way when I heard the word “druid” in all the hype leading up to HoT.

Anyway, good luck to all of you who stick with Ranger. I still play mine as a primary toon in all aspects of the game.

Darkness.9732:

Ranger is in a bad status. If you want to play a strong class in this game, play everything except ranger.
I didn ’ t buy Hot for this reason. And i’m going to unistall gw2 soon.

Regards

just play Rev since its pretty much broken

I always enjoy watching ppl complain about healing druid being out performed by tempests on the forums since they havent yet noticed that with the healing scaling on druid its pretty much better to run full zerker with monk runes and Superior sigil of transference then to run healing gear
just run offensive healer

I can recommend trying it usually its enough for the raid if ppl know that they shouldnt stand in all those red aoes

DoogySnowStalker.2069:

anduriell.6280:

i’ve heard that the heal tempest is the new healer in raids and the druid is not needed anymore…

I’ve also heard you preach this over and over here on the forums, lol

I’ve also heard that they have been preaching it since the start of HoT.

Don’t trust the kitten people talking here. Lot’s of druids in raid all the time.

Rangers are in a better state than the old unwanted everywhere.
It is hard to get Raid meta (on metabattle), since it depends a lot on encounter and group composition.

Pets got a boost in PVE – any mobs hits them for less, unless they are apecifically targetted. It is not likely to ever being applied to players, since the reductions are calculated from the damege dealer, and players have too many attack – it would take too much resources to calculate.
So, in PvE, rangers and druids are used and are not shunned as they used to. I believe we are still over Necro.
Passive and active defensive abilities increase, along with more possible damage increase got us in an OK position in PvP and WvW roam.
Druids gave us group utilities that make us somewhat complete for WvW zerg purpose, but we are still less wanted than GWEN + Revenant.

Thieves replaced us in the bottom of the barrel, but things might change with the upcoming balance patch (balance patches are now every 3 months, so not too bad)

(edit: pets AI and pathing is still as bad. I don’t expect it to get any better anymore. They seem to try to give more utility to pets, and to take in consideration the fact that we do not decide where the pet is by giving ranger-centered pet utilities, e.g., pet teleports downed ally to you on the revive shout, healing from you, and not from pet on that shout use)