Help me choose between two traps builds!

Help me choose between two traps builds!

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Posted by: Othayuni.7369

Othayuni.7369

I have this tricky tossup going on here.
Build A:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQNAV8YjAV11xVCWg2Bi2jMJJMxecIH9oXh0nyVqAZSA;T0AgyCnooyQlgKLVOqkUtIY8x5j9HvPA

Build B:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQNAV8YjEV11xVCWgWCimiMJJ2jD5oH9PkevgUuSFITC;T0AgyCnouxcj4G7Nubk3sIY8x5j9HvPA

Build A benefits:
-Way more overall condition removal (empathic bond)—tends to increase my survivability since I get stuck with a lot less DoTs
~5% condition damage (100 condi)
~6% damage resistance (100 tough)
~15% physical damage (8% crit, 8% crit damage, 5% overall damage)
-Roughly never go more than 15 seconds without some significant health regen happening; heal easier to “stagger” due to being spread out when can contribute to health management
-Heal more mobile since it does not reward me for staying in a ring

Build A benefits:
-Somewhat more precisely timed condition removal
+~15% healing**
+up to 25% more quickness (from additional pet swaps)
-up to 25% more pet abilities (fear and 8sec chill, from pet swaps)
+Pet survivability (from no empathic bond, more pet swaps)
-~60% time spent casting heals (.5sec per 30 sec rather than 1sec per 25 sec)—or otherwise read this benefit as much more rarely interrupted heal, which can effectively increase my heal cycle
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**How I calculate this is rounded and approximate as balls. To share my reasoning:
Troll unguent heals 8680 total in build 1, and can be cast every 25 seconds. To give a common denominator, this averages 10416 health per 30 seconds.
Runes of dwayna means that it’s common for me to have round-the-clock regen boon on healing spring, so I count that in to the healing as the number of health per regen tick I get times 30 seconds. With 315 healing power that happens to be 169, or 5070, on top of the 5150 base healing spring heal. This comes out to a little less than troll unguent over time (10255 per 30 seconds)—but I also might monarch’s leap as much as twice through the combo field when it’s up. This heals an additional 1433 per leap, meaning my healing per 30 seconds comes out to be either 11688 or 13121 per 30 seconds. This comes out to be +12-26% compared to troll unguent, though again sometimes my regen boon will run out, so I’ve averaged that at +15% healing overall.

Any thoughts?

Help me choose between two traps builds!

in Ranger

Posted by: Decently Evil.9648

Decently Evil.9648

can you be more specific? what are you stats for each build?
From what you’ve said so far, i’d say build B. Empathic bond is nice, but unreliable, and conditions are much less of a problem than many people think. If you know you are going to be in a condition damage heavy situation in a dungeon, then just take signet of renewal.

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Help me choose between two traps builds!

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Posted by: Othayuni.7369

Othayuni.7369

To clarify, it’s for s/tPvP.

Build A has 21222 health, 1610 power, 30% crit, 43% crit damage, 1098 condition damage, 1216 toughness, 100 healing (most of which goes unused since healing power is much better on regen boon than on core heals), and +100 pet stats, as well as +5% damage overall from ranger runes.

Build B has 21722 health, 1610 power, 22% crit, 35% cr. damage, 998 condition damage, 1116 toughness, 315 healing, 5% boon duration, +150 pet stats.

I think of B as having “less” stats because it gives up a considerable amont of precision, crit/crdamage, condi damage and toughness for vitality (which I don’t need more of), boon duration (5% seems like not much), and healing power/auxillary effects (increased regen duration/power in order to make healing spring competitive with troll unguent for amount of health actually healed. It does come out healing a bit more overall -if- I get round the clock regen and use the combo field, so that’s nice, but ungauranteed.)

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Help me choose between two traps builds!

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

Yasha.5963

In my opinion your builds look confused-do you want to be traps, crit, or healing? Why do you need to run fast when you have a bunkerish build?

For tpvp I suggest build C:

Same traits as build A but with armor runes for plus-condition damage (choose any of the several available), carrion amulet with shamans jewel, glyph of hydromancy on the sword, snake trap instead of speed signet, and RAO elite. If you use the healing spring change WS grandmaster trait to barkskin, if you use troll uguent stick with empathic bond.

You can play either as an offpoint holder, or offensively help take a point with your insane amount of condition damage. RAO will keep you on a point and is basically an IWIN button against 100nades engis. Even without the extra healing in your builds A&B you will be fairly tanky and most glass canons will melt under your traps before they can kill you.

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