Guild Wars 2

Hi guys just wondering how you ranger players feel the class does against engi? I had a bit of a break from the game and during my first couple days back rangers in spvp and wvw roaming seem to be really good against engi and giving me the trouble out of any class.

I am talking about multiple builds lb zerker, conditions trap ranger, and even some SD/sb spirit rangers are quite tough. So how do majority of you feel the class does against engi in both wvw roaming and spvp?

Condition Build … Engineers hate me :-) … if you read their forums, many Engineers will tell you that conditions are their weakness.

Glass Longbow … you need to not get CC chained by the Engineer or your glassy hide is going to get broken.

I haven’t run condition trap in over a year …

I don’t run spirit builds because I feel our spirits are garbage :-/

Engineers are a joke for condi rangers. On power ranger you’ll get obliterated by any semi-competent engi but then again power ranger is a horrendously weak build so idk why 90% of rangers continue to run it.

Condi ranger is really the only viable build we have for dueling. I get so many rage whispers when playing condi and I always have a good laugh about it.

I agree with the others. Conditions make it possible to deafeat even turret engis. I start with signal of wilderness for some stability. Without it many engineers would start to knock you back. The stabilty-uptime is more than enough to get the engineer to 20 % hp with a ton of bleeding, burning and poison stacks. Entangle and muddy terrain help you to hit with all of your conditions. Also i use my pet (bird) to destroy the rocket launcher turret, while i attack the engineer.

I was making a turret engineer’s life miserable on my trapper ranger last night. Enough toughness to weather through the turret damage and large condi spikes that the engineer couldn’t survive. It made me feel an odd sense of joy to be shutting a turret engineer down every time they approached a point for a change.

Most engis run with either 1 or 0 stun breaks and 1 condi removal (plus perhaps traits.) Condi spam, CC spam, and/or immob spam are the ways to kill them.

For LB, don’t blow important skills without looking at what his doing. Shield and gear block are the usual defense; don’t waste stuff on those and don’t be predictable. For example most rangers will KB and then immediately RF, but engi will have used his stun break and probably has a block ready to be used or just dodges most of the RF damage. Waste. Have a little patience, and then throw everything you can at him when he can’t defend.

If you can do enough damage to get him to use his heal turret, entangle can end the fight.

Ive been having alot of success in 1v1 scenarios vs engi class oddly. Even longer encounters then im used to and I frequently come out on top some how. Its really wierd. I cant recall the last time ive died in a 1v1 encounter to one while roaming as opposed to say s/f ele, pu mesmers or even the class i love to hate, thieves.

http://youtu.be/xoGmGCq_t4Q
Typical roaming encounter.

I did get the first strike on him but i figure with the disparity in buffs between us it was moderatly fair fight.

Im not great but i consider my play above average for the kitten s you encounter while roaming (i love to dodge for the sake of dodging). I cannot speak to the skill of the engi as ive never played one. Im sure someone here can say if he was good/bad/unlucky.

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Engineers are a joke for condi rangers. On power ranger you’ll get obliterated by any semi-competent engi but then again power ranger is a horrendously weak build so idk why 90% of rangers continue to run it.

Condi ranger is really the only viable build we have for dueling. I get so many rage whispers when playing condi and I always have a good laugh about it.

Whats up with you and your LB/power builds- hate? Good power rangers are amazing, win 90% of fights. Just watch Mike Floryan or Flopy The Rabbit(before he went full melee cus LB was to imba for him) youtube channels.

LB is also amazing utility weapon for condi/hybrid builds – just watch ranger danger, LB/SB trapper rune build.

(I watched him on OS, he destroys condi rangers and pretty much everything else.)

Rangers generally wreck engineers of equal skill. For an engineer, it is one of our hardest matchups (condi ranger). However, due to the nature of conquest, and the fact that this game is 5v5 in pvp. (roaming is another matter) Engineers can usually overcome their weakness to condi ranger, or their vulnerability to zerker rangers fairly easily. It all comes down to rotations in pvp. You shouldnt be trying to 1v1 a condi ranger as a engineer, unless you built some wacky anti-ranger build.

I’m working on a non-static discharge damage build with engineer that should give me more of a chance against condi rangers. It is very important to keep you distance from rangers who play condi, and very important to los and close the distance on zerker rangers.

Also, HGH does okay against condi rangers (due to the numerous conditon removals). It is probably the closest to meta engineer build that can stand toe to toe with condition rangers.

If you are having trouble against engineers as a ranger, either they are way better players than you, or have specialized to counter you.

This game (like many of its genre), it is very important to understand the other classes, so you can properly react to them. So try engineer is its giving you trouble. You can have a max level engineer for pvp in about 2-5 minutes. You’ll cry the first time a ranger entangles you when you weren’t expecting it, and procedes to kill you in less than 10 seconds with conditions. When moments earlier you felt super powerful against thieves, warriors, elementalists and guardians. Suddenly, you can’t even move before you die. (This is when ranger bait out your condition removal before landing a entangle)

Good Luck.

The only way you will beat them with a power ranger is by playing your strengths, keep range between you and use the terrain to your advantage. They can’t do kitten if you are shooting them from 1,500+ while on top of something. There are a number of places on each map you can sit such as above the gate on Temple, that gives you free reign to fire down onto the gate point as well as the channel on the other side. The various ways to get down and knock backs on your bow and the fear if you bring a wolf can help keep people off of you. On Foefire the 2 crypts over looking the middle point give you free reign over the middle point and past it a ways and so on. Each map has places where the bow excels use them and you will have zero issues with just about any class if you are competent.

If someone is letting you shoot them from 1,500+ away while you stand on top of something … then they aren’t worth considering as that is just a bad player who I imagine just face-tanks any damage thrown at them as well.

When your shooting into group fights people don’t tend to notice, then again a large amount of players are bad.