Guild Wars 2

I’ve been playing ranger for a little while now. So far I think I’ve lost maybe one or two sPVP games out of all the matches I’ve played as a ranger. I think I’m just really lucky in that regard, however I do seem to to often get a pretty high score.

The most annoying thing that I’ve run into time and time again is being immobilized. Every time I get immobilized I usually die extremely fast. The only reliable way I’ve been able to deal with it seems to be to do a weapon swap to Sword/Dagger and spam evades one after another, and hope it wears off in time to escape.

However, there doesn’t seem to be ANY way for rangers to remove immobilization outside of a lucky tick of either Signet of Renewal or the trait that makes your pet take conditions.

Rampage as One grants stability, which doesn’t seem to effect immobilization for some reason. Lightning Reflexes breaks stun, but doesn’t get you out of immobilization(it at least does evade though). I don’t know if either of those examples is just a bug, or what. But it’s been my experience that neither is reliable.

So, rangers. I’m asking you: How do you personally deal with immobilization in PVP? Or is it just a death sentence?

Elite, in these scenarios we have a few options but is not guaranteed success:
1) Healing spring – I love this skill, but you are rolling the dice if you have more than 1 condition
2) Signet of Renewal – Not my preferred choice but is the other removal option

The following are just to buy time for it to wear off:
3) Greatswords block
4) Lightening reflex

But as you are probably aware, none of these are true counters and you will be likely dead if immobilised in the presence of a good enemy.

Now that I as bunker-ish spec as a ranger can be, I take it in the face and then deal with the consequences. If this wont situationally work I will use sword 3 or dagger 4 and hope for the evade.

When I was a full power/precision/crit damage spec/geared bow ranger, I panicked while saying oh my god oh my god over and over again whilest hoping for the best.

I roll mainly high toughness these days as well, so like Ski I can withstand most attacks when immobilized. I used to use healing spring, protect me, or signet of stone with dps builds.

BTW those things you mention are not bugs- immobilize is a condition so stun breaks and stabilize don’t cure it.

He wasn’t saying it’s a bug. What he wa saying is that while you are immobilized, the lightning reflexes will still evade, but you won’t leap back you will stay in the root.

Sword/dagger, SoS or protect me. Ranger needs immobilize breaker.

Rampage as one when cast should allow us to be immune and able to get out of traps/mobilize state would be my preference. A skill that can be used but not used too frequently given its current cool down time.

This adjustment would make a great change with little work.

ski.4927:

He wasn’t saying it’s a bug. What he wa saying is that while you are immobilized, the lightning reflexes will still evade, but you won’t leap back you will stay in the root.

Sorry to be pedantic, but he does actually ask/wonder if it is a bug, to quote the OP:

“Rampage as One grants stability, which doesn’t seem to effect immobilization for some reason. Lightning Reflexes breaks stun, but doesn’t get you out of immobilization(it at least does evade though). I don’t know if either of those examples is just a bug, or what. But it’s been my experience that neither is reliable.”

Ohhhhhhh.

I thought you were talking about the post before yours! =)

My mistake.

I pray.

I use LR for the evade then heal and then spam dodge while deselecting all targets and getting out the GS (block once) so that I can leap away as soon as it wears out. Normally I just die

Also, It seems like occasionally I will get “stuck” even after the immobilize wears out (maybe the immobilize icon is just not showing)? Maybe it has to do with auto run (does this get automatically turned off when immobilized?).

can we theoretically say that, rune of lyssa + our elite is one of our life savers in pvp?

Well, immob is one of my favorite things to be stuck in! And it’s simple! I just swap to sword/horn use 5,4, 9(Sic Em) and laugh madly a it forces them to abandon trying to kill me because they can’t handle standing in that short range where my pet can hit them 100% of the time, and then if they’re at range it’s not that big of a problem because ill just stay with my longbow and pewpew them…

PS: I’ll use barrage if I feel I can get a kill from it, otherwise I don’t, I also toughness/healing power/spirit build so I’m pretty sturdy…

If its a gang of warriors/guardians/thieves don’t even bother. Even if you have super high toughness, its pretty much game over once they all jump on you and start pummelling.

Melandru on the armor to reduce condition effects 25%. 1 second becomes .75 which is faster than a slow persons reaction time to hit a cleanse anyways. Spam dodge instead.

Play tanky aka 3000 defense.

If facing the right way KB, Daze block off a weapon. Evade if able.

Drop my own immobilize before dodging away(muddy terrain)

Accept that you don’t always survive.

Arrys.7145:

Melandru on the armor to reduce condition effects 25%. 1 second becomes .75 which is faster than a slow persons reaction time to hit a cleanse anyways. Spam dodge instead.

Play tanky aka 3000 defense.

If facing the right way KB, Daze block off a weapon. Evade if able.

Drop my own immobilize before dodging away(muddy terrain)

Accept that you don’t always survive.

In a 1v1 immob should never kill you (unless you’re a glass canon) however when it’s more then a 2v1 you probably don’t stand a chance!!

PS: thanks for reminding me muddy terrain is another way to immob, I usually use spirits for it…

Sdric.8526:

I pray.

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Unless I’m not a Ranger, then I simply remove it.

That actually works, when you’re praying to Kormir.

It’s the reason I rolled human and why I don’t spvp.

Well, played a few more games as ranger. Nothing but immob after immob. It’s like every person I play knows exactly what the ranger achilles heel is and ruthlessly exploits it.

Makes me ill, almost. I’ve never played a class that has a condition like this that just outright CAN’T be removed. So frustrating.

And yes, 2v1 situations are often winnable. Or at the very least you can hold out long enough for support, or to give your team an advatage. If 2 people are attacking you, that’s 1 person not fighting your team somewhere else. Any class that builds defensively can make a VERY good fight out of a 2v1 situation, especially if they’re playing well.

However, the ranger just gets immobilized and spanked with no real option to counter. The BEST you can hope for is to spam evades. And evades don’t kill the enemy. I hate to admit it, because I like to think that playing better is always the solution, but in this case it really does feel like it’s the class that’s the problem.

Here’s hoping the ranger update has some fixes for issues like this.

Make lightning reflexes break immobilize as it should. Problem solved.

I activate Signet of Renewal and it removes all conditions and the cd on it is not 2 high, you just have 2 swap your pet to be sure it’s near you before you use it.

Uhg…so in order to break a single immob I have to pop 2 cooldowns and be without a signet? Great design there…..

Still, I suppose it’s better than nothing.

My answer to immobilization is the following:

I start by taking both Shared Anguish and Hide in Plain Sight in the Wilderness Survival Tree, which soaks up two CCs before I ever have to use an active ability. If they get through that:

1. Signet of Renewal Active.
2. Failing that, Protect Me.
3. Failing that, Wolf fear.

I very rarely get caught in immobilize with so many layers of protection, and if I do, I rarely die from it. Incidentally, I think Protect Me is superior to Lightning Reflexes specifically because it provides an out to Immoblization.

On another note, I agree that Ranger is sorely lacking reliable condition removal and that it needs to be addressed at some point.

immobilization can be mitigated with high defense and a sword 3 + another evading skill.

if you’re immobilized using a sb you’ll be spammed with an attack so…

SB3 -> ~ -> S3 => immobilization done -> S2 or lightning evade.

i can usually get out of most situations that way so long as it’s a melee-user attacking me.

i go with high toughness as a clutch so.