Guild Wars 2

Okay so on my ele I can get out of situations quick, my warrior I can fight till help arrives, what do rangers do? if someone gets within melee range I’m pretty much toast Is that how it’s suppose to be? I can knock them back, maybe get a block off, I could probably do a knock back and drop a trap but requiring other utilities traps is rarely available. Just curious what tricks you use. I’m a bit of a newb at Ranger fun class to play.

im able to open or close 2k yards instantly, while evading most the time. if you add in my 2 dodges its probably 2.2k

what you do is use lightning reflexes, then sword 2 to jump back then spin around and use it again. you are able to open or close large distances…but in order to do it you have to be handy with the keys, being able to spin around super fast and in the right direction.

ive had eles try to catch me with RTL and they end up SOL.

also if you want to juke someone out of their shoes…use sword 2 to jump back..then again to jump in then Ltn Reflexes to jump out again..then dodge to get back in. then sword 3 dagger 4..and back to sword 2….

by that time they have either gone into an epileptic seizure or counted you out as too hard to catch…plus its funny to imagine them screaming at their monitor…

im not sure if this helps…but perhaps it was entertaining.

Jaxx of [GRIM]
-Darkhaven-

Sword/x and greatsword offer arguably the highest escape potential of any profession. Simply start with a greatsword swoop away from your foe, swap to sword/x, spam 2 twice, and repeat. Having swiftness or signet of the hunt passive is preferred. Very few professions can catch you because if you play it smart you can save your dodge rolls for when they desperately try to cc you as you won’t need to use them to gain ground. Thieves are the only ones capable of catching you at this point and some smart juking can throw them off.

Thanks guys, so basically rangers have to take a melee weapon, I guess you’re screwing yourself if you go SB/LB

You also must deselect your target or you will go back to them with sword #2 or GS#3.

It also helps to have Autotargeting de-selected in options.

Gotchaz.7865:

Thanks guys, so basically rangers have to take a melee weapon, I guess you’re screwing yourself if you go SB/LB

Welcome to being a ranger, although there are some videos of someone running 2 bows, I think videos are titled kitten but determined or something like that.

Regarding sword/greatsword mobility, it helps a lot if you disable autolock, target lock, and deselect the target. If you use sword 2 you will leap away from current target, if you don’t have any target, the opposite of what you are facing. The second leap has a short window to trigger, like 2-3 secs. Again if you don’t have anything targeted, and turn away, you can chose where to leap, instead of leaping back. Greatsword 3 is also great for travelling, and if someone is shooting you in the back you can use the block, which won’t trigger the counterattack when not in melee range. If you want to see it done check out Umie Lain on youtube, he has some nice Bunker wvw ranger vids displaying the mobility with sword/greatsword, and leaps through water fields.

Yeah good stuff guys! there are similar skills as warrior as well with leaping at enemies or just using it to run around or away. So melee should be easy to pick up, I was just hoping to avoid melee weapons haha wishful thinking I guess

Make sure you have autotargetting turned off too :P

Gotchaz.7865:

Yeah good stuff guys! there are similar skills as warrior as well with leaping at enemies or just using it to run around or away. So melee should be easy to pick up, I was just hoping to avoid melee weapons haha wishful thinking I guess

Some rangers argue that other classes have better ranged options, like Warrior longbow, or Thief shortbow. And Shortbow will get a range of 900 shortly. Longbow, sword, greatsword are better with power builds, axe/torch/dagger are better with condi builds, shortbow works with both… for now.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Make sure you have autotargetting turned off too :P

I’ve personally accepted that I will occasionally screw myself by keeping autotarget, it’s to comfortable to have it :P most classes it don’t make a diffrence though sword 2 is enough distance to simply deselect and jump the other way, mesmers are probably the onnly exeption it doesn’t work agains cause they will all but guaranteed summon a stupid clone right next to you the same split second you try to jump away, but like I said I’ll live with it for now anyway.

One thing though in most games I played that had autotargeting you needed to face the target or nothing would happen gw2 is not like this it’s target kitten behind your back or anywhere behind rocks etc I wish you could still have it but be forced to face the target and be in los for it to work.

Swoop is your only option, neither Lightning Reflexes nor Sword 2 will allow you to travel faster due to the fact that turning around is so kitten slow.
I can only echo what others said: Get your signet, or even better swiftness, swoop out of there and dodge the CCs. Also, pray it’s not a thief because he has more mobility than you.

GS + S/WH + Centaur runes + Heal as one + Lightning Reflexes = Can get away from any fight … as long as i don’t get snared/rooted/slowed/interrupted in mid flight (lack of stability is annoying). Is also great setup for keeping close to perma swiftness, and great for catching up to most other classes.

Manekk.6981:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Make sure you have autotargetting turned off too :P

I’ve personally accepted that I will occasionally screw myself by keeping autotarget, it’s to comfortable to have it :P most classes it don’t make a diffrence though sword 2 is enough distance to simply deselect and jump the other way, mesmers are probably the onnly exeption it doesn’t work agains cause they will all but guaranteed summon a stupid clone right next to you the same split second you try to jump away, but like I said I’ll live with it for now anyway.

One thing though in most games I played that had autotargeting you needed to face the target or nothing would happen gw2 is not like this it’s target kitten behind your back or anywhere behind rocks etc I wish you could still have it but be forced to face the target and be in los for it to work.

I wish that were always the case… I’ve had the perpetual problem of deselecting something and using monarch leap back into the group ;(

one thing i can say is if youre running a condition-regen build you will not want to be using greatsword. if youre running a bow and need a second weapon set..then i guess its fine.

to the person that said swoop is faster then the S2+2/ltn reflex i would have to disagree. im able to do it almost instantly and me turning around takes zero time. ill post some vids of escaping and juking…i love a good ole fashion juke..its like parkour for rangers!

One I use frequently though is spear in the water it’s just like swoop only in water, you’ll never die in water using this, it’s block and it’s reflect while escaping unless you have a whole bundle of crazy people already ontop of you with immobs.

I use a support build: 0/0/10/30/30 cleric+celestial. With this, I can survive almost everything.

Why use celestial? That’s a lot of stats going to waste.

heya Fo Sho..ive been thinking about rolling a second ranger and running a similar build to what i have now. but going for damage/regen instead. i was thinking about running A/A and GS ..for me to pull it off. what gear would you run?

Labbes.5678:

Swoop is your only option, neither Lightning Reflexes nor Sword 2 will allow you to travel faster due to the fact that turning around is so kitten slow.
I can only echo what others said: Get your signet, or even better swiftness, swoop out of there and dodge the CCs. Also, pray it’s not a thief because he has more mobility than you.

You sound like you turn with the keyboard… Use the mouse and turning is near instant. Lightning reflexes is a nice initial disengage, but needs follow up, much like a swoop does (or any single escape mechanism for that matter unless you’re a thief).

clerics probably if you’re trying for the regen

Faux Sheaux.6179:

clerics probably if you’re trying for the regen

are you gonna be on Ebay this evening? i wouldnt mind guesting over to talk to you.

Indoles.1467:

Labbes.5678:

Swoop is your only option, neither Lightning Reflexes nor Sword 2 will allow you to travel faster due to the fact that turning around is so kitten slow.
I can only echo what others said: Get your signet, or even better swiftness, swoop out of there and dodge the CCs. Also, pray it’s not a thief because he has more mobility than you.

You sound like you turn with the keyboard… Use the mouse and turning is near instant. Lightning reflexes is a nice initial disengage, but needs follow up, much like a swoop does (or any single escape mechanism for that matter unless you’re a thief).

Mouse is still too slow, because you either have to stay still or you run a little bit into the wrong direction.
If you don’t believe me, run some tests. While there is a very small difference even with suboptimal jumps (In my test course, 1min 18sec instead of 1min 20sec), this is not likely to be the deciding factor between dieing or getting away.

If you have a hi dpi mouse and veer out a lil before you cut in for the turn around. im willing to bet its just as fast as a swoop..and will get you further…all while evading.

Labbes.5678:

Indoles.1467:

Labbes.5678:

Swoop is your only option, neither Lightning Reflexes nor Sword 2 will allow you to travel faster due to the fact that turning around is so kitten slow.
I can only echo what others said: Get your signet, or even better swiftness, swoop out of there and dodge the CCs. Also, pray it’s not a thief because he has more mobility than you.

You sound like you turn with the keyboard… Use the mouse and turning is near instant. Lightning reflexes is a nice initial disengage, but needs follow up, much like a swoop does (or any single escape mechanism for that matter unless you’re a thief).

Mouse is still too slow, because you either have to stay still or you run a little bit into the wrong direction.
If you don’t believe me, run some tests. While there is a very small difference even with suboptimal jumps (In my test course, 1min 18sec instead of 1min 20sec), this is not likely to be the deciding factor between dieing or getting away.

Yes, the weakness of the sword evade combo move is that small instant when after the initial evade where you are rotating that camera so you can start the next move of the combo. Smart enemy players wait for that exact instant to drop their CCs (or just before) so that you eat it before you can finish the combo. I love doing that to enemy rangers (assuming I’m in range). Soft CC skills like muddy terrain are the best since they are conditions and negate any advantage the ranger may had by popping stability before the move.

That said, using LR with this combo along with smart dodge usage can help a lot. You can make some nice distance with that chain. However, I just switched back to sword after using GS for awhile. I sure notice a difference. The difference feels greater the more people that are trying to kill me (I really miss that block!). In smaller battles I think the sword wins out until I run across that player who knows EXACTLY when and where to drop that soft CC skill. That’s a rarity for me though..

I still miss my GS…

ill tell you what i would like to see…after you use S2 for the initial jump until you jump forward if it gave you a 2-3 second stability…that would be sexy time. Anet needs to hire me! haha

hyjaxxx.1584:

If you have a hi dpi mouse and veer out a lil before you cut in for the turn around. im willing to bet its just as fast as a swoop..and will get you further…all while evading.

Swoop is a better gap opener since it’s only 1 skill and not chained like with the sword.

Sword advantage is lower cooldowns.

However, the block on GS simply makes it amazing for escaping especially against large numbers of foes.

Sword plus LR does give the GS Swoop/Block a run for the money but loses luster against greater number of foes. For smaller number of foes sword is most likely fine and provides superior damage. There is still a weak spot with that sword evade that you can pounce on if you are quick. GS suffers less from that. However, you have to chain the moves right since the cooldowns are longer.

hyjaxxx.1584:

ill tell you what i would like to see…after you use S2 for the initial jump until you jump forward if it gave you a 2-3 second stability…that would be sexy time. Anet needs to hire me! haha

I would just throw mud on you!

You can sword#2(1) —>Lightning reflexes, turn —> sword#2(2). You have enough time and puts you further out while evading.

Leading with Lightning Reflexes usually has them running immediately, and you’re vulnerable on 2 for a split second after LR which is why i like to weave it in the middle.