Hello hippy rangers :P I was hoping that Rangers has could do good at wvw, pve, spvp, and of course, dungeons. However, I heard that ranger is god awful at Dungeons. Is this true?
Rangers are not grat at WvW Zerg fighting, but are excellent at everything else. WvW roaming, spvp, dungeons, Pve are all things that ranger can be very good at, it depends on the player.
Anet has done an excellent job making sure all professions are at least happily acceptable at every single type of every single game mode. Unless you’re in a rewarded tournament for one of the game modes, don’t worry at all about your profession.
Well…so long as you bring the Spotter trait and Frost Spirit is on your utility bar, you are good to go. Also, please keep your bear in his stable when you are dungeoning, bring the Jungle Stalker and the Red Moa (if you have a might/fury stacking ele in the party, switch those two out for the Jaguar and a drake of your choice). We are welcome in dungeons, so long as we aren’t running the ‘bearbow’ type that everyone hates.
Note…if you use a longbow, never ever ever EVER E-V-E-R use skill 4 called Point Blank Shot unless told to do so. You leave it off cooldown and pretend it doesn’t exist. It’s not worth the damage it does and it’s not worth ruining the whole group’s setup because you shoved the boss away. If you are trying to take down stacks of defiance, it’s fine…if you are pushing because the boss needs to be a certain place…once again…fine. Just don’t spam it because!
when played well they are fine but lacking for pugs. I use my ranger for regular dungeons sometimes or for fractals when i’m too lazy to swap my trinkets back over
Unless your party is kittened (often) they will know that frost spirit (traited) and spotter are good.
Personally I prefer running warrior because i pug everything. Why?
1. banners don’t die and can be moved. spirits can’t move and die in seconds even when traited to have 100% more health.
2. you aren’t able to stack might for yourself very well. In pug group you will often have groups that don’t stack might. Warrior can stack might for itself.
3. less survivability than a warrior. pugging usually means looking out for yourself, which warrior does very well.
4. pets are still kittened (especially since the most recent patch rebroke them) and will run right through aoe and everything which gets them killed. oh well.
it’s easier to play ranger badly than it is for other classes and relies more on the party to help it out but it is still very viable.
Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.
People don’t take guardians and warriors in dungeons for raw dps. They take them as banner bots or reflect/stability bots.
Ranger is fine in dungeons. It’s not the best choice. That’s why you don’t see them in record runs. Most of your runs won’t be record-worthy or even close to that anyway so just play whatever you want.
If you play intelligently, you can be a superstar.
If you just play simple and straightforward, you might as well play a simple, straightforward class.
Example: large number of ranged mobs … take a Devourer pet. It’ll do less damage than some other choices, but since it is ranged it is very easy to park that tanky bug between you and the mobs so that their non-piercing projectiles hit the Devourer intsead of ou.
Example: pull with pet. Put your pet on passive, send it to get in a hit, then tell it to come back. You have now pulled mobs to your LOS’d position without any risk to anyone in your party.
Example: need some extra healing for the party. Drop a healing spring. Now use Horn #5 as a blast finisher and/or swap to a Drake pet whose first attack will be his tail swipe which is also a blaster finisher.
Example: your party needs more projectile defense. Equip off-hand Axe and be part of the rotation.
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Rangers are actually one of the new PvE meta.
They surpass guards and warriors in damage at the moment.
AoE unique 15% damage boost. That stacks with Fury and Might.
People do not know that, though, because there’s 1 build that can do that and no other.
How in the world do ranger’s surpass warriors and guardians in DPS? Burst probably, with signet. But other than that, they have horribly low dps and that signet wont recharge anytime soon.
Rangers are actually one of the new PvE meta.
They surpass guards and warriors in damage at the moment.
AoE unique 15% damage boost. That stacks with Fury and Might.
People do not know that, though, because there’s 1 build that can do that and no other.
How in the world do ranger’s surpass warriors and guardians in DPS? Burst probably, with signet. But other than that, they have horribly low dps and that signet wont recharge anytime soon.
Warriors only give the illusion of high dps and are taken purely for a support role in current meta. It’s not hard to out DPS a phalanx warrior. Guardians aren’t that great either without unscathed contender but last I checked they were on par or slightly better than ranger?
I wouldn’t call rangers meta either, speedrun guilds are running phalanx double staff ele, thief and guardian for their dungeoun tours. Rangers are viable and can replace one of the elementalists, but it’s an objectively worse off composition b/c ele’s are still OP in this meta.
How in the world do ranger’s surpass warriors and guardians in DPS? Burst probably, with signet. But other than that, they have horribly low dps and that signet wont recharge anytime soon.
They’ve surpassed guardians for a long time so I’ll ignore that. Warriors got surpassed by the RF buff. You start with barrage and RF then close to sword auto attack with path of scars on recharge.
Edit: I wonder if they actually outdamage warriors before the RF buff? Most people used WH instead of offhand axe. I suspect that’s the case.
Edit: I wonder if they actually outdamage warriors before the RF buff? Most people used WH instead of offhand axe. I suspect that’s the case.
Idk, we didn’t have Signet of the Wild (untraited) + Predator’s onslaught back then either so people just viewed rangers as a support class back then. Warriors have also received many nerfs to their dmg since the game’s been released so it’ll also depend at which specific point in time you’re looking at.
How in the world do ranger’s surpass warriors and guardians in DPS? Burst probably, with signet. But other than that, they have horribly low dps and that signet wont recharge anytime soon.
Statistics.
Experience.
Theory-crafting and numbers.
Pretty much that. Also, Rangers have no burst whatsoever. It’s called tunnel / tunnel pattern.
Also, Might and Fury is not unique for the Guardian Class and Eles are usually the ones to bring it. Which means that if we take 15% AoE damage boost that IS UNIQUE to ranger class – we already surpassed warriors and guardians.
Warriors are suparior in their overall defense/offense/banner support ratio. But not in raw damage.
Also, there’s a huge difference if we are talking thrash mobs DPS and Boss DPS. If you want to include factors as “long cooldowns” and such. Also… Are we talking solo DPS? Party DPS? With buffs that are not available to the class by itself, but always present in a party?
If you want me to help you with numbers you have to specify yourself.
Pets die in a few seconds.