Guild Wars 2

So the ranger class was my favorite class back in gw1 and I enjoyed it more so then any other. That being said I deeply love gw2 a lot I have to say well done. However I am deeply disappoint in the balance of the classes specially for ranger I have played almost every class so far and I do enjoy them all.
There is no real advantage to playing a ranger anything a ranger can do a warrior,thief can do better on top of that also I find it a bit odd that the game has been out for a while and there is this much of a balance problem. I really wish rangers were looked into more carefully this is all from a PvP/WvW stand point.

Any feed back is welcome

I was nodding my head and agreeing with you until I saw PvP/WvW stand point. Rangers are good there, its PVE where they are garbage

Well regardless the unbalance is an issue period, and when comparing to other class they do fall short.

Azure.8670:

I was nodding my head and agreeing with you until I saw PvP/WvW stand point. Rangers are good there, its PVE where they are garbage

What makes Rangers garbage in PvE? In open world, they can solo the content no problem. In dungeons, they can give support though Spotter and a Frost Spirit to boost the group’s DPS up, while their damage is practically on par with Warriors. Just because a class isn’t as easy to play as other classes, doesn’t mean it’s garbage.

Adrenaline.2854:

Azure.8670:

I was nodding my head and agreeing with you until I saw PvP/WvW stand point. Rangers are good there, its PVE where they are garbage

What makes Rangers garbage in PvE? In open world, they can solo the content no problem. In dungeons, they can give support though Spotter and a Frost Spirit to boost the group’s DPS up, while their damage is practically on par with Warriors. Just because a class isn’t as easy to play as other classes, doesn’t mean it’s garbage.

I agree with this Ranger to play properly is more difficult then others Egin is a bit tricky as well. I haven’t had a problem really with ranger in pve as much as I do in pvp/wvw. That just me so far I am no pro at ranger.

no no, its garbage. I like it, but its not good for PVE. For highest dps, especially in certain fracs, stacking is necessary/pushed and 1hs/wh/axe is not good for stacking at all. Also, Frost Spirit is a terrible version of a warrior banner. The thing can die and you have to trait for it to move with you, while a warriors banner last forever and you can simply carry it along and sit it back down (for a blast finisher, and get swiftness and fury along the way!) without having to trait for it. Yes, we can open world solo better than other classes, but thats nothing to brag about. In dungeons we are the only class not wanted, openly, and occasionally a necro gets the frown also but nowhere near as often. Spotter is great. Ranger damage isnt on par with warrior, we may thing it is because of the numbers, which on paper it does truly look like we are, but a warrior will hit multiple enemies and stack might for the party while a 30% of a rangers dps is coming from a pet that may be dead or only hitting one enemy at a time, which isnt keeping up with other classes at all.

Also, back to frost spirit (which I DO use btw) it is just so inferior in how it works… its ridiculous. It isnt worthless, but whem comparing it to a banner its just a good good laugh

Azure.8670:

no no, its garbage. I like it, but its not good for PVE. For highest dps, especially in certain fracs, stacking is necessary/pushed and 1hs/wh/axe is not good for stacking at all. Also, Frost Spirit is a terrible version of a warrior banner. The thing can die and you have to trait for it to move with you, while a warriors banner last forever and you can simply carry it along and sit it back down (for a blast finisher, and get swiftness and fury along the way!) without having to trait for it. Yes, we can open world solo better than other classes, but thats nothing to brag about. In dungeons we are the only class not wanted, openly, and occasionally a necro gets the frown also but nowhere near as often. Spotter is great. Ranger damage isnt on par with warrior, we may thing it is because of the numbers, which on paper it does truly look like we are, but a warrior will hit multiple enemies and stack might for the party while a 30% of a rangers dps is coming from a pet that may be dead or only hitting one enemy at a time, which isnt keeping up with other classes at all.

Also, back to frost spirit (which I DO use btw) it is just so inferior in how it works… its ridiculous. It isnt worthless, but whem comparing it to a banner its just a good good laugh

You’re saying ‘we’. So I’m guessing you play/main a Ranger, correct? What I don’t get from a lot of Rangers are, if you like the class, why do you keep bringing it down? If you think it’s garbage, why keep playing it? Surely, playing a garbage class isn’t fun.

Like I said, and I’m sure everyone knows, Warrior is a pretty easy class to learn and master. In fact, it’s actually the easiest class to play. A bad Ranger is near worthless, a bad Warrior is still useful. But when you have an experienced Ranger and Warrior, they’re both good.

Ill say Guardian is easier than Warrior unless theyre both full zerk.

Anyway, just because I LIKE the class, and enjoy playing the class doesnt mean I cant speak the truth. Just because I know there are things wrong with it doesnt mean I cant play it. If thats how it is, than literally everyone would just play guardian and warrior, which is the case for the most part anyway. I like the Ranger simply because of lore, I like rogues and archers and rangers etc but the Ranger in this game is very similar to the Warrior, just worse in every way. I mean kitten, dont put in the description of the class how good Rangers are with bows if the Warrior is 10x better with the kittenen Longbow. I dont like comparing everything to Warrior, but its the class Ranger is most similar too. I mean kitten, cant we swap the rangers longbow skills with the Warrior? Or the GS skills? I think we only have them beat on War horn. 1HS is a toss up. And I dont “main” any class anymore, I play them all pretty equal, but Ranger and Mesmer are my favorites

Azure.8670:

Ill say Guardian is easier than Warrior unless theyre both full zerk.

Anyway, just because I LIKE the class, and enjoy playing the class doesnt mean I cant speak the truth. Just because I know there are things wrong with it doesnt mean I cant play it. If thats how it is, than literally everyone would just play guardian and warrior, which is the case for the most part anyway. I like the Ranger simply because of lore, I like rogues and archers and rangers etc but the Ranger in this game is very similar to the Warrior, just worse in every way. I mean kitten, dont put in the description of the class how good Rangers are with bows if the Warrior is 10x better with the kittenen Longbow. I dont like comparing everything to Warrior, but its the class Ranger is most similar too. I mean kitten, cant we swap the rangers longbow skills with the Warrior? Or the GS skills? I think we only have them beat on War horn. 1HS is a toss up. And I dont “main” any class anymore, I play them all pretty equal, but Ranger and Mesmer are my favorites

I get what you’re trying to say. It’s just you said Rangers are garbage, when they’re totally not. Even if they’re not as good as other classes, they’re far from garbage.

My feedback is that coming from my ranger on guild wars 1 to the ranger in guild wars 2 was just about one of the most depressing gaming experiences in my life.

There’s no here or there about it. Just true. Sometimes I still go back to Guild Wars 1, to enjoy my Cripshot, MelShot, and my all time favorite, Magebane build.

Everyone knows GW1 did a lot of things better… Sadly there is no wvw, dodging, jumping and it’s a point-and-click game. I would gladly go back and play if it had all the features I just mentioned.

jcbroe.4329:

My feedback is that coming from my ranger on guild wars 1 to the ranger in guild wars 2 was just about one of the most depressing gaming experiences in my life.

There’s no here or there about it. Just true. Sometimes I still go back to Guild Wars 1, to enjoy my Cripshot, MelShot, and my all time favorite, Magebane build.

I loved the new ranger right up until I started trying to do any not overworld pve or pvp where the pet actually makes me miss the old GW1 brick house. Hearty + call of protection + otogue’s cry = can withstand nuclear blast to face.
Those were the days…

Adrenaline.2854:

Azure.8670:

Ill say Guardian is easier than Warrior unless theyre both full zerk.

Anyway, just because I LIKE the class, and enjoy playing the class doesnt mean I cant speak the truth. Just because I know there are things wrong with it doesnt mean I cant play it. If thats how it is, than literally everyone would just play guardian and warrior, which is the case for the most part anyway. I like the Ranger simply because of lore, I like rogues and archers and rangers etc but the Ranger in this game is very similar to the Warrior, just worse in every way. I mean kitten, dont put in the description of the class how good Rangers are with bows if the Warrior is 10x better with the kittenen Longbow. I dont like comparing everything to Warrior, but its the class Ranger is most similar too. I mean kitten, cant we swap the rangers longbow skills with the Warrior? Or the GS skills? I think we only have them beat on War horn. 1HS is a toss up. And I dont “main” any class anymore, I play them all pretty equal, but Ranger and Mesmer are my favorites

I get what you’re trying to say. It’s just you said Rangers are garbage, when they’re totally not. Even if they’re not as good as other classes, they’re far from garbage.

Ranger are not garbage, but they are not the best dpsers, or have the best armor, or have the best class mechanic, etc….

Adrenaline.2854:

Azure.8670:

no no, its garbage. I like it, but its not good for PVE. For highest dps, especially in certain fracs, stacking is necessary/pushed and 1hs/wh/axe is not good for stacking at all. Also, Frost Spirit is a terrible version of a warrior banner. The thing can die and you have to trait for it to move with you, while a warriors banner last forever and you can simply carry it along and sit it back down (for a blast finisher, and get swiftness and fury along the way!) without having to trait for it. Yes, we can open world solo better than other classes, but thats nothing to brag about. In dungeons we are the only class not wanted, openly, and occasionally a necro gets the frown also but nowhere near as often. Spotter is great. Ranger damage isnt on par with warrior, we may thing it is because of the numbers, which on paper it does truly look like we are, but a warrior will hit multiple enemies and stack might for the party while a 30% of a rangers dps is coming from a pet that may be dead or only hitting one enemy at a time, which isnt keeping up with other classes at all.

Also, back to frost spirit (which I DO use btw) it is just so inferior in how it works… its ridiculous. It isnt worthless, but whem comparing it to a banner its just a good good laugh

You’re saying ‘we’. So I’m guessing you play/main a Ranger, correct? What I don’t get from a lot of Rangers are, if you like the class, why do you keep bringing it down? If you think it’s garbage, why keep playing it? Surely, playing a garbage class isn’t fun.

Like I said, and I’m sure everyone knows, Warrior is a pretty easy class to learn and master. In fact, it’s actually the easiest class to play. A bad Ranger is near worthless, a bad Warrior is still useful. But when you have an experienced Ranger and Warrior, they’re both good.

My DPS warrior does unbuffed does better damage than my DPS ranger+cat per second. Only saving grace is the attack speed of QZ and 1h sword+wh + cat + RaO will out DPS the warrior in the time that QZ is on. There is that one specific time frame my Ranger will out DPS my warrior.

I will say this for the 10,000th time and others will agree as they have in the past. I love playing my Ranger I just hate playing with a handicapped pet. If I didn’t have a pet I would be extremely happy with my Ranger as a class.

In PvP rangers are regarded as the best or at least tied for best defense classes available. Rangers are VERY strong.

WvW you need to be a skilled player to succeed as a ranger. Do what you will with that. Maybe it’s unfair, maybe not.

And maybe I’m vain, but my PvE ranger seems a hell of a lot more useful to the party than most of the population. Daily CoF runs are interesting to see what kind of garbage people are playing with. I’m generally “tanking” in full zerker gear, with spotter and FS and etc, doing most of the damage.