Guild Wars 2

Oct 15th, ranger will get a nerf.
Based on GW2 history, Every time ppl expecting some major improvement for ranger, ranger get a nerf. When we shut up, we got some candy.
There is no doubt ranger will get some so-called buff (e.g. sick’em anti stealth), but in fact it might be useless practically , and ranger get a big nerf over all.

I’m with you, it’s going to be a nerf.

I always hope for the best, then get a slap in the face with a wet kipper !

I’m pretty sure we’ll get some kind of nerf, I just hope that isn’t in some place that I currently use in my ranger.

Ranger too stronk. Need nerf.

honestly I only use my Mesmer and Engi now. I break out the Guard just cuz I like how he looks, but I completely forgot all about my Ranger. I miss playing both my Ranger and Ele and I really, really hope this patch brings life to them

nerf +1 we always suck it

Spirit health reduced by 50% in spvp.

Spirit attacks can only be used once every summon.

THAT TONIGHTS GONA BE A GOOOOD NIIIGHT

warriorjrd.8695:

THAT TONIGHTS GONA BE A GOOOOD NIIIGHT

I was waiting for this.

I was thinking James Brown haha.

Well, from the leaked patchnotes from a month ago, we know that at least at some point leading up to this upcoming patch, somebody considered this to be a good idea:

Maul: Damage for this skill has been increased by 15%. Vulnerability has been increased from 3 to 5 stacks and the duration increased from 6 to 8 seconds.

Since greatsword isn’t that impressive right now, I’m hoping at least this one change will survive through to the actual patch.

I do find it ironic that this patch is supposed to be about support options but the nerf to Healing Spring would means it hits hardest at the ranger’s most powerful support skill.

I expect it will be a mixed bag. Some big nerfs (like Healing Spring and vigour combo) with enough scattered buffs (apparently pets will become more viable as support) to hold off the criticism. The HP buff to pets and minions in PvE is a band aid and won’t solve any issues but it will be popular because it will certainly help.

Shiren.9532:

I do find it ironic that this patch is supposed to be about support options but the nerf to Healing Spring would means it hits hardest at the ranger’s most powerful support skill.

If im not mistaken, the healing Healing Spring does will be buffed. So in a sense, Healing Spring will heal the same amount, shorter time

zero.5316:

Shiren.9532:

I do find it ironic that this patch is supposed to be about support options but the nerf to Healing Spring would means it hits hardest at the ranger’s most powerful support skill.

If im not mistaken, the healing Healing Spring does will be buffed. So in a sense, Healing Spring will heal the same amount, shorter time

It’s a flat nerf in WvW, which hurts double because it was about the only thing we brought to the table which garnered any respect.

They need to implement a new class mechanic: Meat Shield. Where the ranger drops all weapons and armor and soaks damage. At death res isn’t an option because no one cares.

TOKEN OF REGRET!! Double click the token of regret on a character you wish tonrecycle. It deletes the character and allows you to create a new character (race/gender/class) with the deleted characters current level. Resets story line.

There!! All done! They can do wth they like with the class, I’d just like the time I wasted on the class put towards another class that isn’t… Ranger.

If you want to be able to predict what and who gets nerfed, you need only look at the spvp forums.

If enough people cry on spvp forums, A-net disregards all other modes of play and nerfs in favor of whatever the spvpers want.

The heal spring change is not a nerf wtf !?
For wvw zerg you just need well timed water fields to blast and their is no aspcet for 10 or 15 seconds.
For small scale it’s a buff cause your enemy see your heal spring and just dmg into it, now we got a faster condi remove and heal.
And for pve..hmm i dont care. Same heal so i’m happy.

And the rest..we will see

Protect Me! gets more viable for WvWvW solo roaming. I wish Signet of BM would be actually moved to BM tree and Zephyr moved to MM.

Sic’m is probably going to dissapoint big time. I already count on that.
Maul change could be a buff, but I have to see it to believe it.

Actually some minor random things will get buffed , and one of the best things the ranger currently has will get hammered .

hoping for marksmanship shuffling

zero.5316:

Shiren.9532:

I do find it ironic that this patch is supposed to be about support options but the nerf to Healing Spring would means it hits hardest at the ranger’s most powerful support skill.

If im not mistaken, the healing Healing Spring does will be buffed. So in a sense, Healing Spring will heal the same amount, shorter time

With five seconds less of blast finishers and front loading all the condition removal in 10 seconds instead of spreading them out across 15 (in PvE this will usually be a nerf as conditions are usually inflicted in small numbers repeatedly like poison, burning or weakness unlike sPvP where conditions are like spikes, they are thrown on all at once and need to be cleansed multiples at a time).

They are also removing the pulsing vigour when traited which made Healing Spring a great tool to drop on the front line to relieve multiple kinds of pressure on melee (condition removal, blast healing, endurance up time).

Pet support skills have a lot to make up for with a Healing Spring nerf.

Substance E.4852:

zero.5316:

Shiren.9532:

I do find it ironic that this patch is supposed to be about support options but the nerf to Healing Spring would means it hits hardest at the ranger’s most powerful support skill.

If im not mistaken, the healing Healing Spring does will be buffed. So in a sense, Healing Spring will heal the same amount, shorter time

It’s a flat nerf in WvW, which hurts double because it was about the only thing we brought to the table which garnered any respect.

Wrong, it is not a ‘flat’ nerf in WvW, whatever that means. The vigor change is a nerf, but people don’t consider vigor a critical buff. The duration is reduced, but will only effect blast finishers that go off after 10 seconds and before 15 seconds now. In my experience, the VAST majority blast finishers are launched early in the water field duration. Given the condition meta, increasing the rate of condition removal is a buff, as is more rapid stacking of regen.

It is certainly a change that consists of buffs and nerfs. If you think the nerfs outweigh the buffs, say why. Simple, unfounded assertions do nothing to inform the conversation.

i dont think they gonna nerf spirits…i mean they nerfed em at beta, they buffed em now and they gonna nerf em again?Its doesnt make sense..
So spirits stay pretty much the same…
Longbow i think wont get another change since the last stealth buff.
Allready Rangers weapons are doing little dmg so i dont expect any nerf in them, only maybe a small buff, like a 4%..
I think they gonna add some support skills in our weapons, cause they are too selfish and they said they wanted to balance around support builds.
(Exept warhorn we have 0 support skills on weapons)
Some changes on some support pets (Moas-Bears) and Sick em reveal..
Thats all.
In every geuss i succed ill drink 1 shot of tequila, lets make it a game

While they’re toning down our Healing Spring, they did mention in the patch notes that Dev was taking a look at our Weapon Numbers. That could be a positive, sadly, it sounds like they realize Ascended Items cripples our class and drops it further behind the DPS chain since our Pets don’t benefit. So, from that perspective I expect some love.

I think some of our weapons do have support roles, they’re not huge but they are support. You can snare a warrior on of your backline/group member , stun an important person trying to get away so he can get bursted down by the group and that’s with shortbow alone. Auto attack on sword has nice snare capabilities and keeping poison on bunker targets is pretty big.

Fire field from torch offhand is good for placing down right before players blast/leap into it (i usually place them down right before i know a warrior is gonna earthshaker a group etc), its free might. Dagger offhand also snares and bleeds.

I think our soft cc in the form of group support is rather nice but yea could be alot better.

Healing Spring becomes more valuable to the ranger player, and less valuable to a group, while remaining the best water field in the game.

The same healing, with better condi removal and regen application (meaning potentially more reliable regen application for more Healing Over Time? Yes please).

It’s so sad that some people would prefer to be water field slaves than actually have better functionality out of their skills. Oh, and it’s still the longest lasting and most sustainable water field in the game, even with a duration change. So, ranger are still the top slot for the role anyhow.

This is why we can’t have nice things.