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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

Yooooooo!

I just want to share my current WvW build with you.
I’m currently tweaking it so I really appreciate every tipp/critic from other rangers.

Why I’m a LB/GS ranger:
Since day one when I started my ranger I knew I wanted to play the longbow!
The Longbow will alway be THE ranger weapon for me in any game.
To bad the LB lags in damage but its an awesome “control” weapon… knock back + stealth make up a decent bit of damage for me.

Since I was determined to play LB I learned to love the GS.
I just love it… evades, blocks, dazes, stuns, mobility and decent damage (maul).

So I planned my build arround these two weapons.

The Build:
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJATRjEVB2NWWWs2BgVh9aP40SMZPMkxFLZDRB-jUDBoeQYLIIMBjqIYUHJK5DK5RZNFKgl1FRjVVL16GYKXCReDYSBsoyI-w

inspired mostly by xsorus: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-Dazer-Hybrid-Build-2-0-Movie

Stats: (x/y = depends on weapon set)
~3000 Attack
42%/47% Crit Chance (~60% after perception stacking)
90%/80% Crit Damage
890/940 Condition Damage
50% Conditon Duration
2420/2500 Armor
18100/17300 HP

Traits: 10/30/30/0/0
Marksmanship Adept: I like Steady Focus most but Keen Edge and Malicious Training are also goodies.

Skirmishing: Nothing suprisingly here… reduced lb cooldown, bleed on crits MoC for the many interrupts.

Wilderniss Surival: reduced Surival/GS cooldowns + Empathic Bond.

Sigils and Runes:
-6x Rune of Perplexity: With this you turn LB and GS to AWESOME condition weapons. You’ll interrupt ALOT. Stacking 8 confusions is more than usual, 13 stacks mostly and 18-23stacks are possible. (Confusion lasts 18s… sick right?)
- Sigil of Earth on LB: More bleeds! Mostly a condition cover for you confusion but 5-6 Stacks of bleed do a bit damage aswell!
- Sigil of Venom: Swap to GS swoop in and boom 7.5s of poison on target. more condition covers for your confusion + less healing!!
(- I usually stack with sigil of perception before I start my raid… because the bleeds and the Critdamage will profit)

Slot skills:
- Heal is really situationall… I swap here and there. Mostly HS or HaO
- SoH: Since you are a roamer…. this i a must have.
- Muddy Terrain: paired with +50% condidutation + Spider immobs (2x) and Drakehound immob and cripple you will slowdown and immobilize ALOT
-LR: More Dodges + Stunbreaker + Mobility
- Elite: Mostly RaO but Entangle works well too!

Summary:
- LB/GS
- high direct damage! (3000 attk, 90% crit damage)
- 8-23 stacks of confusion
- many condition covers (bleed, vul, poison, cripple, immob)
- controlling the enemy (immob, knockbacks, interrupts, stealth)
- no glasscannon but not a tank/bunker
- no on demand condition cleanse (like most rangers)

I love this build!
But I think the learning curve is really high… I’m far away from using the full potential of this build.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

longbow can work with Conditions, it requires Sigil of Earth and Sharpened Edges and enough crit to do it, but it can most diff work.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
Natures Ninja and Pain Inverter – Ranger PvP movies
http://www.twitch.tv/xsorovos

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

Even, im not sure it will work, most power builds work with might stacks and you dont have them. Maybe that conditions compensate for the might lack.
Think it will be better after next update when pet swop gives might, and with 2 battle sigils…smthing smthing…

The damage is not full zerker high but the damage output is reaaaaaaally no issue.
For example:
- My maul crits arround 4-5k (6-7 after interrupt)
- 1k-2k damage on skil use (confusion)
- 500/s from bleeds

And yes I think the december patch will seriously buff my build

longbow can work with Conditions, it requires Sigil of Earth and Sharpened Edges and enough crit to do it, but it can most diff work.

I thought about sharpend edges but the damage really is covered… control/defensive skills make you a bit more survivable.

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Posted by: Faux Sheaux.6179

Faux Sheaux.6179

Any chance you could make a video? I’m really interested in seeing this in action in WvW.

Ehmry Bay – Grindhouse Gaming [GH]
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Sigil of torment on longbow, you’ll thank me later

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

Any chance you could make a video? I’m really interested in seeing this in action in WvW.

I planned to record something.

@chopps: Thought @ that aswell… but the damage from bleeds is higher

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Any chance you could make a video? I’m really interested in seeing this in action in WvW.

I planned to record something.

@chopps: Thought @ that aswell… but the damage from bleeds is higher

Damage from bleed is not only concern. You get two conditions on them instead of 1. Also, torment damage scales with motion. Finally, longbow shoots too slow to stack a ton of bleed anyways.

I do use earth on shortbow though for sure.

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

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thats right… With torment i have a potential of 7 conditions on target.
Would be pretty hard to cleanse i guess xDD

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Posted by: JohnRandom.1935

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-6x Rune of Perplexity: With this you turn LB and GS to AWESOME condition weapons. You’ll interrupt ALOT. Stacking 8 confusions is more than usual, 13 stacks mostly and 18-23stacks are possible. (Confusion lasts 18s… sick right?)

How would you do that? The only interrupts I see are LB4, GS5 and the occasional dog knockdown. And you get one stack every 15 seconds for free without interrupts. Am I missing something? I mean even 18 seconds of confusion duration can’t keep up 8-15 stacks this way…

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

Yeah you missing something!

1. The applied confusions last 10s base and 18s (+30% runes + 50%food/trait)
2. You get THREE stacks of confusion every 15 sec
3. LB4 interrupts easily…. (here you got your usual 8 stacks!)
4. LB4 -> swoop -> hilt bash combo can stack to 13 confusions
5. G4 interrupts aswell. (another 5 stacks)

Here is my rotation for max confusion stacks:

LB4 -> GS3 -> GS5 -> GS2 -> GS4 back to LB4

If you are timing right and you are lucky you can stack 20 stacks by this + 3 stack on cirt. = total of 23 stacks

But 8-13 stacks are way more common

This build works because people want to kill you or defend… they constantly use skills you just have to learn when to interrupt.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

I’ve done something very similar before. Except all power. Although I could occasionally 1 v 3 by being able to use QZ to burst someone down It just didn’t seem to have enough damage or enough survivability (or my pet would die cause I couldn’t kill fast enough so I just went back to my full zerker gear. However, I have not ran it since the update so maybe my pet would be better. Idk…

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Posted by: JohnRandom.1935

JohnRandom.1935

Yeah you missing something!

1. The applied confusions last 10s base and 18s (+30% runes + 50%food/trait)
2. You get THREE stacks of confusion every 15 sec
3. LB4 interrupts easily…. (here you got your usual 8 stacks!)
4. LB4 -> swoop -> hilt bash combo can stack to 13 confusions
5. G4 interrupts aswell. (another 5 stacks)

Here is my rotation for max confusion stacks:

LB4 -> GS3 -> GS5 -> GS2 -> GS4 back to LB4

If you are timing right and you are lucky you can stack 20 stacks by this + 3 stack on cirt. = total of 23 stacks

But 8-13 stacks are way more common

This build works because people want to kill you or defend… they constantly use skills you just have to learn when to interrupt.

Ok, so you actually get more than one stack confusion every time the runes proc? I never used them so I don’t know. I kind of reads like one stack each time.. that sounds pretty amazing. I need to try that out.

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Yeah you missing something!

1. The applied confusions last 10s base and 18s (+30% runes + 50%food/trait)
2. You get THREE stacks of confusion every 15 sec
3. LB4 interrupts easily…. (here you got your usual 8 stacks!)
4. LB4 -> swoop -> hilt bash combo can stack to 13 confusions
5. G4 interrupts aswell. (another 5 stacks)

Here is my rotation for max confusion stacks:

LB4 -> GS3 -> GS5 -> GS2 -> GS4 back to LB4

If you are timing right and you are lucky you can stack 20 stacks by this + 3 stack on cirt. = total of 23 stacks

But 8-13 stacks are way more common

This build works because people want to kill you or defend… they constantly use skills you just have to learn when to interrupt.

Ok, so you actually get more than one stack confusion every time the runes proc? I never used them so I don’t know. I kind of reads like one stack each time.. that sounds pretty amazing. I need to try that out.

3 to 8 i think with condi duration and not really trying. so its a bunch, as he or she describes, you can get much more too

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Posted by: aeroh.8930

aeroh.8930

Perplexity runes will probably be nerfed soon. If your build relies on them, you might want to rethink it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Perplexity-runes/page/2#post2994201

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

Perplexity runes will probably be nerfed soon. If your build relies on them, you might want to rethink it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Perplexity-runes/page/2#post2994201

ooooooch. that would be bad xD
Thx. for the information.
I hope they nerf them not to hard so they will still be viable.

If they do I’ll go back to a full power setup.

I really enjoy this “on interrupt” -mechanic…. it engages to play smarter and not just spam on crit condis with high precision.
Maybe they’ll give us some more “on interrupt” runes/sigils with other effects.

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

I run a biuld with close philosophy, only lean abit more on power and use shortbow.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJAVRjAVV29VCWs2BgVBAbPm0SMZPMkxFLZUVA-jkCBYjBiCEggAK5rIasl1FRjVXDT5aR16XAmzDRzgO1SBYuwI-w

60% crit chance on short bow with omnoberry and “sharpended edges” is realy nice.
i can change sigil of generosity ot earth but it helps me alot vs heavy conditions biulds. I dont mind perplexity nerf, stacking 8 confusion every 10 sec or so is what I want from this rune set anyway(I rarly manage to chain interrupt).

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

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Sigil of torment on longbow, you’ll thank me later

I rethought about it and I think in THIS setup torment is not viable.
Because I´m aiming to immobilize my enemy as long and often as i can… a condition that develops its full potential when moving is a bit paradox in this case xD

Switching the Drakehound to Wolf and Jungle to Forest Spider and Muddy Terrain for whatever… THEN I think Torment would be a great addition.

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Posted by: Inverted.7439

Inverted.7439

after looking at this i’ve realized It’s a sad sad day for rangers everywhere

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Posted by: ChioChip.5970

ChioChip.5970

after looking at this i’ve realized It’s a sad sad day for rangers everywhere

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