Guild Wars 2

been playing a guard since game came out just a few weeks ago made a ranger got to 80 made my build an I am loving it watching my pet cut down mobs like a hot knife through butter put a big smile on my face fun ended in a dungeon we stacked on a champ and everyone started dying the hole time I was thinking I don’t even have to get hit so I dodged rolled out of stack and me and pet went to town and killed champ every one said they hated rangers and I said I was just playing a ranger like they were meant to be played most of are skills are meant for us to move around then I got kicked so my question is am I a bad player…PS rangers lead the way

impressive how you managed all that with so little punctuation.

or like, are you a troll

thomasgjkgwdn.4760:

impressive how you managed all that with so little punctuation.

or like, are you a troll

no not a troll. Not very good at putting sentences togeather sorry if that bugs you

Ranger is not the same as archer. It make more sense to use a melee when stacking as it has more dps. With certain boss fighting it at range will trigger certain mechanisms.
For example Lt. Kholer in Ac will do his spin pull attack. The Queen Spider will use it’s aoe range attack.

While you stack you still can dodge in the stack as you are normally against a wall dodge into the wall. Dodging give you like a half second of immunity and also trigger on dodge effects like protection.

I really hate stack but it is what is expected when you do dungeon runs. So hold your ground and rally the downed. You normally are able to rally yourself even if the boss is on you. At the point where everyone is dead and your the last one left that when you begin to go your thing the way you want to.

If your the first to break rank you can cause the wipe. People will some times go down it is not the same as wiping.

Are you a bad player? Depends when you broke rank.

If he was trolling. At least he used facts. A lot of ranger skills require you to move about. Like sword 2 and 3, shortbow 3, longbow 4.

You can play the stacking game, but it limits your play style and even weapon choices.

Serraphin Storm.2369:

Ranger is not the same as archer. It make more sense to use a melee when stacking as it has more dps. With certain boss fighting it at range will trigger certain mechanisms.
For example Lt. Kholer in Ac will do his spin pull attack. The Queen Spider will use it’s aoe range attack.

While you stack you still can dodge in the stack as you are normally against a wall dodge into the wall. Dodging give you like a half second of immunity and also trigger on dodge effects like protection.

I really hate stack but it is what is expected when you do dungeon runs. So hold your ground and rally the downed. You normally are able to rally yourself even if the boss is on you. At the point where everyone is dead and your the last one left that when you begin to go your thing the way you want to.

If your the first to break rank you can cause the wipe. People will some times go down it is not the same as wiping.

Are you a bad player? Depends when you broke rank.

thanks for the advise ill do that but I have to say stacking is really boring when are class is capable of some amazing stuff if we didn’t have to stack in the group all was dead but the guardian and he was at half hp

no troll then, aight =)

those players should be glad that you were able to get the boss down, instead of having a wipe.

for stacks, i default to greatsword (using LB to apply some vulnerability, and some aoe for the occasional adds). pet needs to be managed too, so it doesn’t do too much on its own =)

Fomby.4295:

If he was trolling. At least he used facts. A lot of ranger skills require you to move about. Like sword 2 and 3, shortbow 3, longbow 4.

You can play the stacking game, but it limits your play style and even weapon choices.

Uh, you are aware there is a clear and present benefit to stacking over ranging, right? If not, let me spell it out for you so that you do not hinder a stacking dungeon running group if you ever happen into one:

1) Boon sharing. Boon sharing is limited to melee range. To be a benefit to the group through sharing boons you have to stay very close (less than 300 units) to the group. Ranging from 1500 you share just squat and get jack squat thus mean less to the group overall.

2) Resurrection. It is much easier to res your teammates when in a stacked group as you are right there when they go down and multiple people can res at the same time to shorten the entire res time.

3) Melee Damage > Ranged Damage. This game is built on doing as much damage as possible as fast as possible. To that point, when you are running a dungeon you should be in DPS gear and traited for DPS. If you aren’t, you are intentionally lowering your overall DPS. Of course, to run a pure DPS build you do have to know how to dodge and evade appropriately. Not everyone will be able to do this… but running a pure DPS build in the time that you are up you will still do more damage when you are up than the entire time in Clerics gear or similar.

Now, those are the top three reasons for stacking. Just know that if you’re in my dungeon running group and you pop in with a bearbow setup, I’m immediately kicking you as it is a safe assumption you will not contribute to the group in a meaningful way. On the other hand, if you show up with sword+wh and jungle cat/red moa you can stay.

thefantasticg.3984:

Boon sharing is limited to melee range. To be a benefit to the group through sharing boons you have to stay very close (less than 300 units) to the group.

emphasis mine. why this number? it depends on what’s being used. also, 300 doesn’t count as melee range, does it now…

there’s a pretty big caveat as well: if you don’t have a group (composition) that is able to do a stack safely, it makes no sense to attempt it.

i’m pretty sure thinking in extremes is causing trouble for the community. i also think it helps make the game stale for some.

Well, I play a lot of melee toons and many of the melee skills are under 300 range. That’s why I used that number.

Stacking is the most safe way to go about many of the dungeon boss encounters (of course that depends on the dungeon) regardless of party composition as long as everyone is melee. May take longer because of cleric I play how I wants but it is still better than range…. and with that being said…

I’m not talking extremes. Many pugs I have run with run zerker gear (when I did run with pugs anyway). All of the people I run dungeons with run zerker gear no matter what dungeon we are running because it the most efficient way to do it. That’s not an extreme. 80% of the people I play with in dungeons are casual and we all run zerker. You just have to know how/when to dodge. If that counts as extreme then the “causal” base in this game is extremely small.

You may not like what I said but 1-3 are facts. You can dispute it until you are blue in the face but it’s not going to change that the reasons I posted are 100% true.

i’m commenting, not “disputing” i’m well aware how efficient stacking can be. however, it creates a rather narrow playstyle, which shows in builds and behavior – some people i’ve run with, even when i specify “no rush/skip”, are seemingly unable to think of the dungeon in any other way than the usual “run there, stack there”. i do not believe that is healthy!

but besides that – it’s not the gear i meant as an “extreme”. it’s the style. stacking requires a focus on protection and damage that not all players are able to live up to. it also requires certain skills, or professions (depending on encounter/boss).

there’s plenty of stuff that can go wrong. granted, if you’re only running with people that you know/trust, it’s not an issue. but sometimes, it’s not a bad thing to have someone outside the range of influence of the enemy. lack of endurance, lack of hitpoints, lack of defensive skills, those things could mean that in a stack, you’d be looking at more frequent revives. in which case, ranged is preferable.

and pets don’t even need to be revived, and they come in pairs. =)